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Reply #175 on: May 15, 2017, 01:17:56 PM

Suspira is amazing, but I had a bad experience watching it with some college students in a course a few years back--not a single one of them got it or liked it. It was interesting how much they all disliked it, and some of them were otherwise folks with good critical taste. That felt like a pure generational reaction.

We've seen both Ringu and The Ring; they're both good and she liked them both very much. Ju On is on the list.

She loved Pan's Labyrinth, though I'm not sure quite what I would call it in genre terms.

We all hate torture-porn horror, so no Saw, no Eli Roth, none of that.
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Reply #176 on: May 15, 2017, 03:39:09 PM

Suspira is amazing, but I had a bad experience watching it with some college students in a course a few years back--not a single one of them got it or liked it. It was interesting how much they all disliked it, and some of them were otherwise folks with good critical taste. That felt like a pure generational reaction.

We've seen both Ringu and The Ring; they're both good and she liked them both very much. Ju On is on the list.

She loved Pan's Labyrinth, though I'm not sure quite what I would call it in genre terms.

We all hate torture-porn horror, so no Saw, no Eli Roth, none of that.

The list of torture porn worth watching is short, but Saw and Hostel would be on the list.

As far as Japanese/Asian horror goes, off the top of my head:

Audition
Ju-On (as mentioned)
The Host
Noroi (The Curse)
Battle Royale (it's not horror but fuckit, put it on the list)
Suicide Club (Suicide Circle)
Kwaidan
Dark Water
A Tale of Two Sisters
Shutter
Pulse (Kairo)
The Eye
Dumplings
Tomie
Merusk
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Reply #177 on: May 15, 2017, 07:43:51 PM

If Torture porn is an absolute no-go, you can still watch Saw. Just watch the TV edit. It was a good enough first film that the gore portions were more detracting than additive, IMO.

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Reply #178 on: May 15, 2017, 08:28:14 PM

The first Saw is absolutely excellent from beginning to end. My horror binge actually started with Eli Roth and the Saw series last year. I think Hostel is a relevant work in the annals of body horror. Green Inferno was the biggest let down.

Human Centipede is a great flick but I wouldn't call it gore porn.

Ichi the Killer is a must watch. Cabin Fever is very good as well. I honest to god loved the new Last House on the Left as well.

Never watch Irreversible. I don't care how many accolades it gets. It's one of the most disturbing movies I've ever seen.
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Reply #179 on: May 16, 2017, 04:23:27 AM

The remake of Last House on the Left was better than it had any right to be. I remember liking the trailer enough to make a thread for it here and not unexpectedly schild and I are the only ones who ended up watching it.

I'm not overly into Japanese horror although I do appreciate a lot of it on a visual level. They do creepy a lot better than Hollywood movies though. I tend to prefer the batshit crazy stuff like Hausu.
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Reply #180 on: May 16, 2017, 10:51:27 AM

The remake of Last House on the Left was better than it had any right to be. I remember liking the trailer enough to make a thread for it here and not unexpectedly schild and I are the only ones who ended up watching it.

I'm not overly into Japanese horror although I do appreciate a lot of it on a visual level. They do creepy a lot better than Hollywood movies though. I tend to prefer the batshit crazy stuff like Hausu.

Yea, Last House was really what a remake should be.

Also, for those reading this, Hausu was released in America as House. It is from 1977. Do not confuse it with the garbage American movie House from 1985.
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Reply #181 on: May 17, 2017, 06:40:42 AM

Rewatched Hatchet with an eye towards watching 2 and 3 for the first time. Fun movie although the opening is a reminder that we didn't get to see Robert Englund and Kane Hodder together in Freddy vs. Jason. Also starting to go through the 2 seasons of Holliston (Hatchet writer/director Adam Green's "sitcom" with Joe Lynch, Dee Snider, and the late Dave Brockie from GWAR). Aside from the deliberately exaggerated laugh track, which is a one note joke that gets a tad annoying until you get used to it, it's very entertaining.
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Reply #182 on: May 17, 2017, 09:57:50 AM

I'm on the last 2 Hell Raiser movies. Afterwards I'm moving on to The Purge, due to uh, political reasons. After that, all of Friday the 13th. No clue where things go from there.
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Reply #183 on: May 17, 2017, 04:51:21 PM

You could go with Phantasm since the final movie came out recently. It's pretty rough but there's a singular vision to it that's somewhat unique among horror franchises. Or you could go with something like Wishmaster. Aside from that there's more recent stuff but a lot of it, some of which you may have seen, and a lot of which I'm not sure you'd like, and many of which are incredibly uneven:

Don't Breathe
Green Room
The Girl with All the Gifts
The Void
The Loved Ones
Harvest Lake
The Devil's Candy
The Blackcoat's Daughter
Tales of Halloween
Southbound
Beyond the Gates
Hush
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Reply #184 on: May 17, 2017, 05:29:22 PM

God how did I not post about this here.

The Void was excellent.

Edit: So was Southbound. I've actually seen a lot of these movies. It might be single movies next though as I have a few things I haven't watched. Dead Story, Split, Lake Mungo, Last Will and Testament of Rosalind Leigh, etc.
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Reply #185 on: May 17, 2017, 10:17:53 PM

God how did I not post about this here.

The Void was excellent.

Seconded. If you like John Carpenter's best works (Prince of Darkness era), you'll dig this.

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Reply #186 on: May 18, 2017, 02:03:46 AM

God how did I not post about this here.

The Void was excellent.

Seconded. If you like John Carpenter's best works (Prince of Darkness era), you'll dig this.

I really enjoyed his In the Mouth of Madness.  And for 80's horror, Tales from the Darkside The Movie will always be special to me  (although I promised I wouldn't tell).

Have you seen the short film Elevated?  It used to be on Youtube, but it seems they removed it.
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Reply #187 on: May 18, 2017, 10:39:40 AM

I have not.
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Reply #188 on: May 18, 2017, 10:40:47 AM

Me neither. Is it this film?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eeEs8CRdo8

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Reply #189 on: May 18, 2017, 01:34:22 PM

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Reply #190 on: May 18, 2017, 07:23:43 PM

First Phantasm is an interesting movie.

I've been trying to figure out also which other kinds of old movies my daughter thinks are interesting. Maltese Falcon was a big dud with her (I love it dearly), but she loved Citizen Kane. Thinking I might try Treasure of the Sierra Madre on a double-bill with A Simple Plan some time soon. She liked Hell or High Water recently, so that's a good sign for those.
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Reply #191 on: May 18, 2017, 07:25:16 PM

Ok. Hellraiser done. Absolutely got worse and worse until the final one which was somehow worse than the last three put together.

This series is completely misunderstood by the people who make it. Incredible.
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Reply #192 on: May 18, 2017, 07:50:57 PM

Two fun but not great films:

Suck -- Musical Black Comedy about a shitty bar band.  Bassist (Jessica Pare) gets turned into a vampire, gets the French-Canadian roadie to be her Renfield, shit happens.  Lots of fun cameos....  Moby, Henry Rollins, Iggy Pop, Alison Cooper, guitarist from Rush.  Dave Foley and others have small parts.

He Never Died -- Henry Rollins is weirdo who seems to be immortal, finds out he has a daughter.  Gets into shit with local organized crime.  Rollins performance was fine when he was a disaffected weirdo, not so great later on.  The trailer is a bit spoilery.
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Reply #193 on: May 19, 2017, 04:46:33 AM

Ok. Hellraiser done. Absolutely got worse and worse until the final one which was somehow worse than the last three put together.

This series is completely misunderstood by the people who make it. Incredible.

The last one was made in a couple weeks on a very small budget. Some assume it was just made so the studio could hold onto the Hellraiser rights. The one before that I don't think was even written as a Hellraiser movie originally.

I've been trying to figure out also which other kinds of old movies my daughter thinks are interesting. Maltese Falcon was a big dud with her (I love it dearly), but she loved Citizen Kane. Thinking I might try Treasure of the Sierra Madre on a double-bill with A Simple Plan some time soon. She liked Hell or High Water recently, so that's a good sign for those.

Some Like it Hot is usually a fairly safe bet. Also a lot of the Universal monster stuff is entertaining (and Bride of Frankenstein is still genuinely good), most of them are under 80 minutes long, and they've done some good blu-ray collections.


Edit: Also schild, if you're going to be batshit crazy and do things like watch all the Hellraiser movies you could have at least done some sort of writeup documenting your thoughts as you watched each one. The only further step down you could take from there is watching all the Puppet Master movies.
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Reply #194 on: May 19, 2017, 06:10:19 AM

We've seen the original Dracula and the original Frankenstein. She liked both.

Some Like it Hot is an interesting idea.
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Reply #195 on: May 19, 2017, 08:01:03 AM

Also maybe The Thin Man (and it's sequels), It Happened One Night, and His Girl Friday (pretty much all as examples of well-written dialogue which we don't get much of anymore). And yeah, it's an obvious choice but I genuinely love Casablanca.
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Reply #196 on: May 19, 2017, 09:54:13 AM

Definitely need to watch Harvey. Just an absolute classic.

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Reply #197 on: May 19, 2017, 11:43:48 AM

Ok. Hellraiser done. Absolutely got worse and worse until the final one which was somehow worse than the last three put together.

This series is completely misunderstood by the people who make it. Incredible.

The last one was made in a couple weeks on a very small budget. Some assume it was just made so the studio could hold onto the Hellraiser rights. The one before that I don't think was even written as a Hellraiser movie originally.

Edit: Also schild, if you're going to be batshit crazy and do things like watch all the Hellraiser movies you could have at least done some sort of writeup documenting your thoughts as you watched each one. The only further step down you could take from there is watching all the Puppet Master movies.

Well. I didn't think it would be necessary to do that going in. I should probably just be making a post about every movie I watch. Today is 1409 and Lake Mungo (I think, depends how I feel later). 1408 is actually _better_ than I remember, and I remember it pretty fondly.
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Reply #198 on: May 19, 2017, 11:48:05 AM

She sorta likes Casablanca. She was a bit iffy on The Thin Man but humored me when we watched it a few years back.
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Reply #199 on: May 19, 2017, 01:21:23 PM

Huh. The version of 1408 I got had a different ending than the one I got before. Looked it up on Wikipedia, there's 4 endings. It's nearly region dependent.

(Edit: This ending scared the SHIT out of me. Did not expect it at all.)
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Reply #200 on: May 19, 2017, 02:00:02 PM

My fav old films that aren't horror or some psycho thriller are Bell, Book and Candle, Arsenic and Old Lace, and Jason and the Argonauts.  The little theatre in my home town showed old films mostly from the 40s and 50s on Saturday afternoons.  Oh, and Topper.  I loved Saturdays!  Every single Kid I knew was there, too.  Sometimes we would watch, sometimes we would brawl.  Always fun, though.

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Reply #201 on: May 20, 2017, 12:58:22 AM

Just finished the first Purge. It was ok I guess. It made me want to watch Funny Games though, which as far as family torment movies go was better in basically every way. The premise, however, is great. Im glad they discussed the obvious social aspects of such a thing when they really didnt have to. Shame the ending was kind of spoiled in the first fifteen minutes though.

Oddly, though I havent seen them, I can only assume the sequels are better.
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Reply #202 on: May 20, 2017, 03:43:16 AM

Just finished the first Purge. It was ok I guess. It made me want to watch Funny Games though, which as far as family torment movies go was better in basically every way. The premise, however, is great. Im glad they discussed the obvious social aspects of such a thing when they really didnt have to. Shame the ending was kind of spoiled in the first fifteen minutes though.

Oddly, though I havent seen them, I can only assume the sequels are better.

They're able to expand the scope in the sequels which improves things.
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Reply #203 on: May 21, 2017, 07:14:05 AM

I don't know if it counts as either horror or obscure per se, but if you haven't watched Cube in a while, the original (not the terrible sequels) stands the test of time for me. It had tension and gore, so that makes it horror for me. Also I'll second Johnny Cee's recommendation of He Never Died, but I may be biased as a huge Henry Rollins fan. Seriously, the only reason I watched Sons of Anarchy was because Rollins was in the second season.
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Reply #204 on: May 22, 2017, 10:09:06 PM

Grabbing movies by actor. Of all the ones I've gone through, the following 2 people have - anecdotally speaking - the best careers achievement sets in Hollywood:

Philip Seymour Hoffman
Arnold Schwarzenegger
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Reply #206 on: May 22, 2017, 10:40:57 PM

I'm probably one of the biggest fans of Tim Curry on the planet. His signal:noise ratio, however, is hot garbage. I know that and I haven't even gotten to him yet and don't need to click the link to tell you that (obviously I had to click the link to see who it was though).
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Reply #207 on: May 23, 2017, 07:14:32 AM

Robert Duvall is for me the actor who consistently is at least entertaining but at his best is really just one of the greatest actors ever: The Apostle, Tender Mercies, The Great Santini as examples of his range in the central role; The Godfather, MASH, Apocalypse Now, Deep Impact, for character roles. Even in the worst shit, he's usually the best thing in it. He also for me really shows how much weaker some of the guys who came up with him who were more celebrated at one point really are--Dustin Hoffman, Gene Hackman, Jack Nicolson, etc. Most of them only play themselves, or they have a phony method-acting schtick, or when they appear in low-grade schlock, they're as bad as the schlock around them.
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Reply #208 on: May 23, 2017, 07:37:11 AM

My favorite is Takeshi Kitano...when he is in a film directed by Takeshi Kitano.  awesome, for real
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Reply #209 on: May 23, 2017, 08:40:58 AM

Grabbing movies by actor. Of all the ones I've gone through, the following 2 people have - anecdotally speaking - the best careers achievement sets in Hollywood:

Philip Seymour Hoffman
Arnold Schwarzenegger

I'd probably put Kurt Russell up near the top. He's had a long career, done some iconic movies, and is still doing some really great stuff like Bone Tomahawk whereas with Schwarzenegger you kinda have to ignore everything he's done after True Lies.
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