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Reply #315 on: August 08, 2016, 12:06:19 PM

$135 Million domestic debut. Smashed August records. Shows how much bad reviews really matter.

Or how meager the slate of movie releases has been.  Ohhhhh, I see.

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Reply #316 on: August 08, 2016, 12:20:10 PM

Wow, this thing made more in its opening weekend than Ghostbusters will make in its entire theatrical run.

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Reply #317 on: August 08, 2016, 01:17:34 PM

Your options this week were SS, Jason Bourne, Nine Lives and other things that have been out for a while. SS was going to do well, but it did better than just that.

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Reply #318 on: August 08, 2016, 01:47:47 PM

There was a built in audience of people that really wanted to like this movie.  They went weekend one.  I have a feeling this will have a huge drop off and then be seen as a disappointment.

I won't be seeing it anytime soon.

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Reply #319 on: August 08, 2016, 02:19:22 PM

Yeah, are we forgetting that Batman Vs. Superman did $170 million it's opening weekend?  It subsequently fell off a cliff.

Not saying this one wont have more legs, but based on reviews, I have a feeling it will follow the same trajectory.  Reviews and word of mouth do matter, and that's how marvel makes a billion dollars on a film, instead of a few hundred million in two weeks then nothing.

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Reply #320 on: August 08, 2016, 05:49:28 PM

It did make more money in one weekend than ghostbusters made in four, karmic boners for all.

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Reply #321 on: August 08, 2016, 05:58:56 PM

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Reply #322 on: August 08, 2016, 09:19:54 PM

Harley Quinn is a woman.

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Reply #323 on: August 08, 2016, 11:04:39 PM

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Reply #324 on: August 08, 2016, 11:34:26 PM

This movie made so much fucking money that DC and Co will learn nothing.
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Reply #325 on: August 09, 2016, 12:35:14 AM

Having seen neither up to this point, the difference between SS and BvS is that I really, really want to see Margot Robbie playing HQ and wearing those outfits.  Which obviously also means that I support women in strong roles.  They shoulda put her in that Ghostbusters movie, too.

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Reply #326 on: August 09, 2016, 09:32:12 AM

Wow, this thing made more in its opening weekend than Ghostbusters will make in its entire theatrical run.

One had actual stars. One didn't.

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Reply #327 on: August 09, 2016, 11:24:34 AM

I dunno, Will Smith was SS's biggest star that I can think of and he's kinda a has-been at this point.  What was the last thing he was in that was any good?  I Am Legend?

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Reply #328 on: August 09, 2016, 12:45:56 PM

I dunno, Will Smith was SS's biggest star that I can think of and he's kinda a has-been at this point.  What was the last thing he was in that was any good?  I Am Legend?

It had more names than that though. It had Will Smith, Margot Robbie, and Jared Leto. I don't really care about the screen time because those people were top billed. Who did Ghostbusters have? Melissa McCarthy, anddddddd uh, nobody. And even McCarthy is a stretch as a "star" in the industry since the biggest box office draw she's involved with was Bridesmaids at around $290M.

Meanwhile Men in Black 3 grossed more at the box office than her last 3 movies combined. Will may not draw like he used to, but he's still bigger than most stars in an action type movie, and people go to see him.

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Reply #329 on: August 09, 2016, 02:19:25 PM

I didn't know who Margot Robbie was before I heard that she was the one playing Harley Quinn, and I only know Jared Leto from American Psycho (which was a long ass time ago) and Mr Nobody (which was a flop that I enjoyed on Netflix after it unceremoniously left theaters).  I think even being in a bit role, Chris Hemsworth on his own is a bigger box office draw than the entire SS cast.

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Reply #330 on: August 09, 2016, 02:38:57 PM

I dunno, Will Smith was SS's biggest star that I can think of and he's kinda a has-been at this point.  What was the last thing he was in that was any good?  I Am Legend?

Will Smith will literally never be a has-been. The dude gets people in seats. He was one of the highest paid actors, if not the highest, at one point.

That said, it not only had real stars (Leto and Smith, Robbie is a hot nobody), it had real characters. No one wanted to see shitty Ghostbusters. Except shitty people.
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Reply #331 on: August 09, 2016, 04:00:08 PM

I dunno, Will Smith was SS's biggest star that I can think of and he's kinda a has-been at this point.  What was the last thing he was in that was any good?  I Am Legend?

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Reply #332 on: August 09, 2016, 04:27:53 PM

No one wanted to see shitty Ghostbusters. Except shitty people.

That's more what I was getting at.   awesome, for real

Until I looked up the box office numbers (because I was curious how bad SS was flopping), I assumed based on media coverage that it was a complete failure, since I've been seeing articles about how GB16 was a triumph over angry man-children and really its box office numbers are very good, based on it barely breaking even on production costs.  

Then after seeing the same people writing about how SS is a disappointing flop, and looking up the numbers to compare it to the triumph that is GB16...   why so serious?

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Reply #333 on: August 09, 2016, 06:30:22 PM

No one wanted to see shitty Ghostbusters. Except shitty people.

That's more what I was getting at.   awesome, for real

Until I looked up the box office numbers (because I was curious how bad SS was flopping), I assumed based on media coverage that it was a complete failure, since I've been seeing articles about how GB16 was a triumph over angry man-children and really its box office numbers are very good, based on it barely breaking even on production costs.  

Then after seeing the same people writing about how SS is a disappointing flop, and looking up the numbers to compare it to the triumph that is GB16...   why so serious?

SS squad had a lot going into it.  Good trailers, high hopes from DC fans that it couldn't be as bad as BVS, original enough property to be interesting but with a DC brand to be familiar. Couple big names, A joker. Ghostbusters had name recognition but it also burned a lot of goodwill with the people that cared about the name.  Also as always Action > Comedy at least at the box office.

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Reply #334 on: August 09, 2016, 10:05:38 PM

SS squad had a lot going into it. 

I heard it bombed in Japan, but Germany thought it was a gas.
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Reply #335 on: August 09, 2016, 11:08:40 PM

Wow, this thing made more in its opening weekend than Ghostbusters will make in its entire theatrical run.

One had actual stars. One didn't.

One was also an original movie, not an uninspired and unwanted reboot.

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Reply #336 on: August 10, 2016, 12:56:54 AM

By all reports, SS was worse than expected, GB was better than expected, and neither was very good. What more need be said?

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Reply #337 on: August 10, 2016, 01:01:15 AM

By all reports, SS was worse than expected, GB was better than expected, and neither was very good. What more need be said?

I liked SS a lot more than I did GB.  It wasn't as good as most of the Marvel based movies but it was enjoyable and holy fuck did Margot Robbie nail Harley Quinn.  I hope we get a Harley spin off movie sometime soon.

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Reply #338 on: August 11, 2016, 08:31:30 AM

I didn't know who Margot Robbie was before I heard that she was the one playing Harley Quinn, and I only know Jared Leto from American Psycho (which was a long ass time ago) and Mr Nobody (which was a flop that I enjoyed on Netflix after it unceremoniously left theaters).  I think even being in a bit role, Chris Hemsworth on his own is a bigger box office draw than the entire SS cast.

Did you miss Wolf of Wall street? The film is somewhat insufferable, but Robbie is one of aspects that's hard to criticise on any level. Jared Leto also played the peroxide blonde guy in Fight Club, but since he spends most of the film with his face mashed up I could forgive anyone for forgetting that. He was also in Dallas Buyers Club, so it's not like he's not getting top roles, but I'd have to agree that he's probably not got as much broad draw as Chris Hemsworth.

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Reply #339 on: August 11, 2016, 08:48:54 AM

I didn't know who Margot Robbie was before I heard that she was the one playing Harley Quinn, and I only know Jared Leto from American Psycho (which was a long ass time ago) and Mr Nobody (which was a flop that I enjoyed on Netflix after it unceremoniously left theaters).  I think even being in a bit role, Chris Hemsworth on his own is a bigger box office draw than the entire SS cast.

Did you miss Wolf of Wall street? The film is somewhat insufferable, but Robbie is one of aspects that's hard to criticise on any level. Jared Leto also played the peroxide blonde guy in Fight Club, but since he spends most of the film with his face mashed up I could forgive anyone for forgetting that. He was also in Dallas Buyers Club, so it's not like he's not getting top roles, but I'd have to agree that he's probably not got as much broad draw as Chris Hemsworth.

He was amazing in Dallas Buyers Club though... And you have to figure, he spends more time with his band that acting too. However, he'll always be Jordan Catalano.  awesome, for real

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Reply #340 on: August 11, 2016, 10:39:14 AM

Wait.  He was Jordan Catalano?

May have to see this movie now.
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Reply #341 on: August 11, 2016, 12:52:08 PM

So I watched Mr Nobody: Holy Fuck, what a confusing mess of a movie. I get that like Cloud Atlas, it is supposed to be, and it does a better job of putting it together in the end, but you have to accept having no clue WTF is going on for the first hour to get there.

But Leto certainly isn't the problem with it.

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Reply #342 on: August 11, 2016, 02:33:47 PM

So I watched Mr Nobody: Holy Fuck, what a confusing mess of a movie. I get that like Cloud Atlas, it is supposed to be, and it does a better job of putting it together in the end, but you have to accept having no clue WTF is going on for the first hour to get there.

But Leto certainly isn't the problem with it.

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Reply #343 on: August 11, 2016, 09:29:11 PM

I watched Focus just for Smith and Robbie.

Tuned in, immediately get to watch cringey Ubisoft talking head offering her deepest sympathies to the families impacted by the Orlando shooting while flanked by a man in a giraffe suit and some sort of "horrifically garish neon costumes through the ages" exhibit or something.  We need to stop this fucking planet right now and sort some shit out. -Kail
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Reply #344 on: August 13, 2016, 11:41:08 PM

I guess this wasn't awful.  Just really stupid.

I liked the characters well enough.  But goddamn was the story stupid.
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Reply #345 on: August 13, 2016, 11:55:16 PM

So I watched Mr Nobody: Holy Fuck, what a confusing mess of a movie. I get that like Cloud Atlas, it is supposed to be, and it does a better job of putting it together in the end, but you have to accept having no clue WTF is going on for the first hour to get there.

But Leto certainly isn't the problem with it.

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Reply #346 on: August 14, 2016, 07:26:53 AM

I watched it too. I actually liked it as well.

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Reply #347 on: August 16, 2016, 10:37:48 AM

Leto will always be the dude from Requiem for a Dream; for me.   Watching his gf go ass-to-ass before dumping him over bucks to pay for dope, just before getting his arm sawed off... has a special place in my heart.  Which probably partially explains why I liked this movie.  Definitely liked it more than BvS.

It's a chaotic love story, through and through.  Rife with the crazy that so often accompanies it.  The disjointed editing was suitably chaotic; so while some folk may have hated that aspect, I thought it played into the overarching idea of the thing.  Made me almost want to get back together with my ex.  Almost.

Smith and Robbie were obviously the stars for obvious reasons (plus they work amazingly together; a fact I'm sure Jada just loves).  I still say Robbie is the most talented young "Marilyn Monroe" type actress out there today.  That type of 'look' with that level of skill is extremely difficult to find out there.  She was the most perfect HQ they could of had.  If she could get an oscar nod for a supers flick, I'd say give it to her for this role (but it won't happen).

DCEU has this whole "magic is growing" shtick that I like.  It gives them at least something slightly more mystic, dark, and mysterious to play with.  They're not that good at it yet, but here's to hoping they'll get there.  They can't do Marvel's shtick even if they had the ability to.

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Reply #348 on: August 17, 2016, 12:55:02 AM

DCEU has this whole "magic is growing" shtick that I like.  It gives them at least something slightly more mystic, dark, and mysterious to play with.  They're not that good at it yet, but here's to hoping they'll get there.
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Reply #349 on: August 17, 2016, 03:10:21 PM

Except I'm not necessarily looking for "fun" in my dark, mystical supers flicks.  Leave that to Marvel, as you say.  DCEU needs to focus on the subtler, darker, crazier, aspects.  So basically Netflix Marvel.   Ohhhhh, I see.

Fuck, DC is doomed I guess.

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