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Reply #105 on: February 14, 2016, 05:32:30 AM

Speaking of Liefield, check the name on the Starbucks cup in the opening.   DRILLING AND MANLINESS

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Reply #106 on: February 14, 2016, 12:21:28 PM

Well, that was rather enjoyable.  In two minds about it though.  It was still your bog-standard not terribly interesting Origin movie.  It was also a non stop bit of fun.

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Reply #107 on: February 14, 2016, 12:50:37 PM

That's what can make a good romantic comedy or any other type of movie, by the book but charismatic and funny enough you don't care.   Kinda how I enjoyed John Wick for being a 'pure' action movie, this was a pure distilled super hero movie that was all lean, no fat.

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Reply #108 on: February 14, 2016, 03:11:03 PM

I enjoyed this. The plot is paper thin, but the gags come at a great pace and there was really nothing I didn't find amusing.

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Reply #109 on: February 14, 2016, 06:18:56 PM

I loved it. 

Hell, even the husband loved it and he had no idea who Deadpool was going in.  He just saw one of the commercials during the Super Bowl and thought it was funny, so he decided to go with me.

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Reply #110 on: February 14, 2016, 07:14:00 PM

It was violent, crude, bloody, immature, and utterly over the top.


The whole family loved it.
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Reply #111 on: February 14, 2016, 07:16:32 PM

We also found it very amusing and entertaining. I am hoping the 15-year old doesn't have questions about the sex montage, though.

Big shout-out to the writers. The tone on Deadpool is extremely easy to get completely wrong, but they pretty much got it just right.

I do hope that if they do Cable in a sequel, he is played entirely for laughs, like Colossus in this one. There is no way to make Cable anything but utterly pants-on-head-ridiculous. It would be kind of hilarious if they actually tried to fourth-wall explain his origin.
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Reply #112 on: February 14, 2016, 07:22:04 PM

Deadpool breaks the record for best opening by an R-Rated movie ever.

Seriously, $135 million domestic, over $260 million worldwide on a $58 million budget. Even if you count marketing as double the budget, it's already made a profit domestically in one weekend. Highest February opening ever, beating Fifty fucking Shades of Gray. It just utterly killed. Even if the second week dropoff is big, it's still justified the insistence on an R-Rating, as well as all the hype that was built from that CGI sequence that made its way around the Internet.

It was good for the same reason a lot of the Marvel movies are good - it seems like the producers/studio laid down a few ground rules and a framework, then stepped back and let the creative people do what they do.

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Reply #113 on: February 14, 2016, 08:15:28 PM

I want Karl Urban as Cable.   awesome, for real
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Reply #114 on: February 14, 2016, 08:18:45 PM

I want Kiera Knightly as Cable.
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Reply #115 on: February 14, 2016, 08:21:26 PM

Kiera Knightly as Domino!
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Reply #116 on: February 14, 2016, 09:10:45 PM

Kiera Knightly as Domino!

Lol awesome, for real

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Reply #117 on: February 15, 2016, 03:16:30 AM

Isn't that right, my dear Chair


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Reply #118 on: February 15, 2016, 03:31:50 AM

Deadpool breaks the record for best opening by an R-Rated movie ever.

Seriously, $135 million domestic, over $260 million worldwide on a $58 million budget. Even if you count marketing as double the budget, it's already made a profit domestically in one weekend. Highest February opening ever, beating Fifty fucking Shades of Gray. It just utterly killed. Even if the second week dropoff is big, it's still justified the insistence on an R-Rating, as well as all the hype that was built from that CGI sequence that made its way around the Internet.

It was good for the same reason a lot of the Marvel movies are good - it seems like the producers/studio laid down a few ground rules and a framework, then stepped back and let the creative people do what they do.
I honestly dont see this dropping off in any meanigfull way untill at least the second or third week.

The theatre I work at had it in 2 of our largest auditoriums (a 400 seat IMAX house and a 380 ish seat Normal house) and we had to open up a third auditorium for an Additional late show (we axed a show of something and moved Zoolander into one of the tiny auditoriums movies go to to die) and we STILL ended up turning people away in droves because shows were sold out multiple hours in advance.  Hell,  we had people coming to our theatre from as far away as an hour + drive (note, we are on the edge of metropolitan Toronto, there are probably at least 10 other theatres within 1 hour of us) because they said every theatre around them was also sold out.

This thing is going to have heafty legs untill damn near everybody who can has finally managed to see it.

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Reply #119 on: February 15, 2016, 03:50:29 AM

Yeah, apparently no one told them that R-rated movies are box office poison.

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Reply #120 on: February 15, 2016, 06:08:38 AM

Deadpool is currently leading the german box office charts. It's the 6th best February launch ever with 900,000 tickets (1st: 50 shades 1.3 m).
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Reply #121 on: February 15, 2016, 06:22:02 AM

It was violent, crude, bloody, immature, and utterly over the top.


That sums it up for me and my wife, neither of us are comic book/super hero fans but this movie was just fun.  We went because she watched a trailer someone posted on youtube and she thought it looked funny.  There were 3 or 4 other superhero movie trailers before Deadpool started but she said they looked like too much serious business to bother with.
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Reply #122 on: February 15, 2016, 07:39:34 AM

Yeah, apparently no one told them that R-rated movies are box office poison.

Hollywood has been SO wrong about this for so long. PG-13 really has been a bad thing for Hollywood, IMO. Maybe it's because I'm an adult now and don't have kids, but I haven't even paid attention to the ratings for anything in forever other than to see if something that should be R isn't (like an Aliens movie or Deadpool). Hollywood has insisted for so long that anything big budget has to be PG-13 or better so as not to turn away the kiddies, but it's somewhat creatively stifling. I still don't see it changing much because Hollywood execs are mostly fucking idiots but it is nice to see something that needed an R-rating get and be hugely successful doing it.

Of course, it's also a huge win for really damn good marketing.

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Reply #123 on: February 15, 2016, 07:50:59 AM

Well they weren't initially wrong about it. It served its purpose with the very protectionist parents that early Childrearing Boomers and Gap-gen parents were when it was introduced. Gen X and young Millenials have totally different attitudes about what's appropriate and levels of media savvy. It's not like the 80s where, "oh shit, why is this PG?" could happen because you had no way of gathering information beforehand. Famously Jaws, Gremlins, Wizards, and Mommie Dearest had PG ratings. Whoops.

Additionally I'm not a fan of the "do away with PG-13" movement that's out there. It lets movies like The Breakfast Club (which was "R" how crazy is that?) be accessible to the right audience while also letting parents know, "no, this isn't a Disney Channel movie. Look into why it has this rating."

I also want to take a moment and give Kudos to my local theater who was actually checking IDs outside the room and made sure a few idiot parents who bought tickets online didn't bring their 8-year-olds to the movie. Good job.

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Reply #124 on: February 15, 2016, 08:00:47 AM

My problem isn't with the PG-13 rating. If we're going to have ratings, I appreciate it being there as a good indicator that yeah, this is a bit more adult than an 8-year old should see but it isn't full-on Showgirls. I just think Hollywood has handicapped a number of movies creatively because they didn't want to shut out 13-16 year old ticket sales.

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Reply #125 on: February 15, 2016, 08:28:25 AM

I also want to take a moment and give Kudos to my local theater who was actually checking IDs outside the room and made sure a few idiot parents who bought tickets online didn't bring their 8-year-olds to the movie. Good job.
The wife got a 5 minute lecture from the ticket taker on her bringing the 13 year olds to this movie.  Her response was "they'll hear worse language from me over the rest of the day and see more violence on the internet!"
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Reply #126 on: February 15, 2016, 09:20:45 AM

Breakfast Club was R because it had too many "fuck"s in it. I still find it super shitty that two f-bombs equals an R rating.

Tuned in, immediately get to watch cringey Ubisoft talking head offering her deepest sympathies to the families impacted by the Orlando shooting while flanked by a man in a giraffe suit and some sort of "horrifically garish neon costumes through the ages" exhibit or something.  We need to stop this fucking planet right now and sort some shit out. -Kail
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Reply #127 on: February 15, 2016, 11:42:34 AM

James Gunn nails why Deadpool's success will ultimately be a bad thing:
http://www.vulture.com/2016/02/james-gunn-worried-deadpool-teach-wrong-lessons.html?mid=twitter_vulture

TLDR: Bad imitations incoming.

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Reply #128 on: February 15, 2016, 01:16:06 PM

It's not a bad thing and it's inevitable no matter what type of movie it is. See:Twilight and YA movies.  Being successful leads to poorer imitations, it's just nature.

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Reply #129 on: February 15, 2016, 01:44:20 PM

It's not like Fox hasn't made other shitty imitations of superhero movies and failed in the past. See Fantastic Four or both of the Wolverine movies.

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Reply #130 on: February 15, 2016, 03:03:02 PM

I think Gunn is right in that the studios have NO FUCKING IDEA why Deadpool worked. Maybe not even Marvel Studios. So there will be dumb bad attempts to reproduce the formula. Dumb bad R-rated superhero movies with lots of masturbation jokes = objectively worse than other kinds of studio imitation. This is a really fragile formula that was cooked into a beautiful potion by really skilled people. Bad cookings will be unusually toxic.

I think I felt especially dread when I saw one prognostication today that this would greenlight an R-rated Gambit movie. This is the worst possible thing ever. This is a thought worthy of having aliens nuke us from orbit.

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What would be good? An R-rated X-Force movie that mixed the sensibility of this film with Rick Remender's more serious X-Force comics. That's part of what made this work, in fact--just enough seriousness about Deadpool's sufferings, about his relationship, etc.

Though they did downplay just how disgusting he looks in the comics--I had to point out to my wife and daughter than in the comics, the guy has open, bleeding, pus-oozing sores all over his body, he's not just a burn victim.
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Reply #131 on: February 15, 2016, 03:44:00 PM



Though they did downplay just how disgusting he looks in the comics--I had to point out to my wife and daughter than in the comics, the guy has open, bleeding, pus-oozing sores all over his body, he's not just a burn victim.


I didn't mind this as much because while it could have been a technical limitation I think the movie would lose something by forcing reynolds to emote as pizza the hutt.

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Reply #132 on: February 15, 2016, 05:07:55 PM

I'm sure the expense of that actual makeup/CGI + losing Reynolds' basic appeal as an actor had something to do with it.
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Reply #133 on: February 15, 2016, 06:20:25 PM

I agree about the Remender R-Rated X-Force material. I think this group could do that one and make it work.

R-Rated Gambit, though? FFS, why? Gambit isn't even that interesting of a character and R-Rating won't help him be more interesting.

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Reply #134 on: February 15, 2016, 07:06:53 PM

R-Rated Gambit, though? FFS, why?
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Reply #135 on: February 15, 2016, 07:16:42 PM

TBH I'm so meh on gambit that making it rated R actually makes me a bit more interested.

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Reply #136 on: February 15, 2016, 07:46:40 PM

This is now my new favorite Marvel movie.  And my most favorite Valentine's Day movie ever.
But, I feel like it's almost a bad thing liking it that much.  Like... I feel dirty, but I like it.

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Reply #137 on: February 15, 2016, 07:56:53 PM

1/4 of the audience was under eight for the showing I went to in Arizona. It made it very uncomfortable for watching.

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Reply #138 on: February 15, 2016, 08:22:37 PM

1/4 of the audience was under eight for the showing I went to in Arizona. It made it very uncomfortable for watching.

Uncomfortable? This is the greatest love story ever told. 

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Reply #139 on: February 15, 2016, 08:47:39 PM

I didn't say it wasn't fucking great, I just said it wasn't fucking comfortable with all the fucking kids yelling they had to use the fucking potty to their fucking parents who didn't care.

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