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Reply #140 on: May 11, 2018, 02:28:22 AM

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

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Reply #141 on: May 11, 2018, 04:10:56 AM

I can see why, though--the deal is really bad for Syfy, because it's a very expensive show and the margins are thin for them. I hope Netflix or Amazon or Hulu pick it up.
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Reply #142 on: May 11, 2018, 08:45:53 AM

Amazon seems likely.  They’ve been pushing it hard since they acquired the streaming rights, and have the money to burn.
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Reply #143 on: May 12, 2018, 02:11:40 AM

Although... Netflix streams it in the rest of the world (that's how I watch it in Australia, where it's not on Amazon - it also appears six months late and I can't legally watch it yet).
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Reply #144 on: May 22, 2018, 06:50:40 AM

Amazon is eyeing a 4th Season pickup.

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Reply #145 on: May 23, 2018, 11:03:56 PM

Ha! You knew from the title they were going to do something like that but man they went all-in on the Delta-V.

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Reply #146 on: May 24, 2018, 02:22:50 AM

Ha! You knew from the title they were going to do something like that but man they went all-in on the Delta-V.
Yep, having read the books, that episode title was a pretty awesome giveaway.

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Reply #147 on: May 25, 2018, 09:51:23 PM

Woot, its official. Amazon picked it up.  I forgive you Bezos for the extra 20 bucks you are tagging onto Prime.

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Reply #148 on: May 25, 2018, 09:54:27 PM

I just started S1.  It's terrific. Glad there's more to look forward to.
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Reply #149 on: July 11, 2018, 05:04:16 AM

This has pretty much become my favorite SF episodic series.
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Reply #150 on: July 12, 2018, 09:26:28 PM

Ya, its really good. The way they pulled off Abadon's Gate in only  half a season was pretty impressive.  Can't wait to see what they do from here with Amazon.

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Reply #151 on: July 12, 2018, 10:10:04 PM

I’m in S2.  It's grand space opera, but the fact they give a shit about the characters and actually develop them is admirable.
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Reply #152 on: July 13, 2018, 07:00:33 AM

I'll be curious to see if they get on and off Ilus relatively quickly, as Cibola Burn is maybe the slowest of the books in plot terms. But it's overall really critical to establishing the new status quo, so they'll have to think carefully about it.

At the end of the 3rd season finale, my wife was like, "Oh, now it's going to be Star Trek and Holden will be like Kirk, that's sort of disappointing". I was like, nope.
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Reply #153 on: July 13, 2018, 08:04:42 AM

Not to go off on too much of a tangent, but I was given the first three books as a trilogy and loved them.  Then I learned there were several more with no apparent end in sight.  Is it worth continuing on with the series or do we think it's going to end in frustration as these things often do?
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Reply #154 on: July 13, 2018, 08:32:32 AM

Not to go off on too much of a tangent, but I was given the first three books as a trilogy and loved them.  Then I learned there were several more with no apparent end in sight.  Is it worth continuing on with the series or do we think it's going to end in frustration as these things often do?

It's a signed 9 book series, book 8 comes out this December, they have been releasing once a year the whole time (only delay was 6 months, from June to December, when the TV series started).
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Reply #155 on: July 13, 2018, 09:10:54 AM

And do they hold up?
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Reply #156 on: July 13, 2018, 11:03:03 AM

I'mma skipping over most of the comments here since you guys are spoiling the hell out of future developments (curse you literate people who read the book first!), but I just wanted to jump in and say that this last season was science fiction perfection for me. They even got the ships turned around right to show them braking into orbit (something they screwed up a couple of times in second season). Tech stuff that looked right, lots of zero-g action, reasonable human reactions to things, good political backdrop, and I don't think they ever "reversed the polarity" once.

Glad they got the Amazon gig. Can't wait to see what they do with it.

And Amos is perfect:

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Reply #157 on: July 13, 2018, 12:35:08 PM

The books hold up so far, in my humble opinion. There is very little sense of stalling or padding--each book moves the status quo forward significantly, sometimes startlingly so. The characters are also getting older and that is making a difference. The antagonists are mostly interesting, complex and generally somewhat sympathetic in some way. Won't go into the details. The major shoe that has still to drop is anything particularly detailed about the Ultimate Menace which has made its appearance for the first time in the last few episodes of this season.
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Reply #158 on: July 16, 2018, 11:50:37 AM

And do they hold up?

I would say Cibola Burn (the 4th book), is the weakest of the bunch, though if you are a big enough fan of the series, it's still pretty good.

The books (at least the first 4-5) were written (according to the authors) with specific themes in mind.

Book 1: Space Opera + Noir
Book 2: Space Opera + Tom Clancy
Book 3: Space Opera + Haunted house
Book 4: Space Opera + Western

I think I read an article that book 5 was Space Opera + War and Peace, but there might have been some joking involved. I am up-to-date on the books and am looking forward to see how they conclude the series in Books 8/9.

There are also novellas/short stories (4 or 5 I think), if you blow through the main books. At least 2 of the short stories have been turned into episodes/arcs in episodes.
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Reply #159 on: July 16, 2018, 07:51:38 PM

My view (stated in the book thread, of all places) is that the first book is the best but that the later ones are still readable and enjoyable, if a bit more padded out. Got to expect that if they're churning one out every year, though.

Not sure they can deliver on the undercurrent they're been teasing, but will keep reading and see.
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Reply #160 on: July 25, 2018, 11:23:19 AM

Showrunner gave an interview where he makes pretty clear that season 4 will not be entirely on Ilus, but will instead do some work back in the solar system also that will set up the transition to the fifth book's main plot arc.

https://io9.gizmodo.com/the-expanse-showrunner-talks-about-the-move-to-amazon-a-1827815805
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Reply #161 on: February 10, 2019, 10:46:16 PM

All three seasons of The Expanse have just gone live on Amazon Prime video (Amazon's cheap Netflix equivalent), after Bezos saved the series. Season 4 coming soon.

It's no longer a Syfy network show, but it is the best sci-fi show right now.

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Reply #162 on: February 13, 2019, 01:55:08 PM

I always forget how good this show is.

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Reply #163 on: February 13, 2019, 09:35:11 PM

I had not read the books (I've started now) and the TV show always leads to "holy shit" moments for me.
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Reply #164 on: February 14, 2019, 04:34:15 AM

It's just such a good combination: a long-term narrative arc that's not afraid to unsettle the status quo and where you believe (for good reason) that almost anything could happen; some relatable, interesting characters; some smart thinking about the politics and sociology of human society in this setting; and some serious respect for the technological underpinnings of the show.
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Reply #165 on: February 26, 2019, 06:27:39 AM

Loved the books, loved the TV series. Keep em coming!!!

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Reply #166 on: December 04, 2019, 02:48:45 AM

Nine.
More.
Days.

Then it's time to lose an entire weekend binge watching the whole season :P

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Reply #167 on: December 05, 2019, 05:25:58 AM

Which reminds me I might need to, uh, Shiver Me Timbers, and get caught up on this.  Have only seen the first two seasons, seeing as how they took it away from Netflix, the socialist bastards.

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Reply #168 on: December 05, 2019, 01:52:19 PM

The third season is the best so far. It's also interestingly structured a bit like a Walking Dead season - a new arc begins mid-season.
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Reply #169 on: December 05, 2019, 03:38:07 PM

They seem to have structured it so that cliffhangers can happen at the end of seasons so they aren't doing a season a book. Book 1 ended mid-season 2 and season 2 and 3 seems to have handled books 2 and 3. Not sure how the books are structured after that, but they aren't keeping themselves to a strict outline according to the books.

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Reply #170 on: December 05, 2019, 09:27:06 PM

4th book is pretty self-contained story-wise so I don't expect a ton of cutting back and forth to different venues as much as previous seasons.  I think they may likely do the full story arc for book 4 this season.  The story of book 5 really doesn't mesh with book 4 well at all, the main players are literally not in the same systems across the 2 books.

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Reply #171 on: December 06, 2019, 07:04:51 AM

I suspect they'll do all of book 4 but start seeding book 5, if for no other reason than you don't get any Avasarala in book 4 except at the beginning (and maybe the end? I don't recall clearly.) 

I also think they may take the time to introduce a certain Martian commander who is important later in the series.
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Reply #172 on: December 06, 2019, 01:26:42 PM

Agreed. They will have to sprinkle some of that in there to prep as I don't see how they can even do all of book 5 in one season given the split perspectives unless they change up the structure, although that would kinda blow apart all the plot lines.

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Reply #173 on: December 06, 2019, 10:39:12 PM

Agreed. They will have to sprinkle some of that in there to prep as I don't see how they can even do all of book 5 in one season given the split perspectives unless they change up the structure, although that would kinda blow apart all the plot lines.

I suspect they'll take care of a lot of the ground work for Book 5 with Bobbie's adventures on Mars this season as well as perhaps with the Belters. Depending on how they play things out they could spend the end of the season setting up Book 5


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Reply #174 on: December 06, 2019, 11:57:39 PM

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