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Reply #70 on: February 07, 2016, 05:00:38 PM

EDIT: Book based spoilers, don't read just because you're caught up on the show.

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Reply #71 on: February 07, 2016, 05:05:57 PM

Oh ya. Thanks.  Bad memory.

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Reply #72 on: February 14, 2016, 12:50:39 PM

Holden's acting and character - just super bland. It's like he's playing "generic guy" character. Some interesting things have happened to him but none of that really comes through in the script or the performance. I mean, him reporting the derelict got all his friends killed, you figure that would make some impact on his character beyond just casually mentioning it once or twice.

There's a backstory to Holden they haven't gotten into yet (can't remember if it even comes up before book 3), but what you don't like about his acting is actually him acting the role as defined in the book. He's pretty much a bland character that shit happens to but he makes the right decisions because he's trying to be decent.

It's just that there's a very narrow gulf between "play the everymane" and "play super bland" smiley
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Reply #73 on: February 20, 2016, 12:03:47 PM

Read the first book and halfway through the second one.  The writing really falls apart in the second.

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Reply #74 on: February 20, 2016, 11:13:01 PM

Read the first book and halfway through the second one.  The writing really falls apart in the second.
Oh yea, you gotta get sucked into the story to get through the writing that otherwise starts to get in the way. Corey is a very new writer. He starts to get more polished around book 4 (I think book 3 was the weakest iirc).

The only reason I started reading him was before Leviathan was on special and while I don't mind paying for kindle books, I don't like paying more than $4 per book. I consume them too quickly to justify higher costs. So instead I've lowered my standards of quality  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

Currently going through all of Sanderson's stuff. Actually, after reading the latest Mistborn, I think I've gotten through everything. I'm sure a bunch of you don't like him for whatever reason. But he's got a great imagination, remains pretty self-consistent, and doesn't mind having completely different universes with completely different rules.
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Reply #75 on: February 21, 2016, 12:43:31 PM

It's actually a "they" not a "him."  It's two guys writing under a pseudonym, so you will have some variability in the writing style book to book and even chapter to chapter I have noticed.

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Reply #76 on: February 22, 2016, 01:59:10 PM

Read the first book and halfway through the second one.  The writing really falls apart in the second.
Oh yea, you gotta get sucked into the story to get through the writing that otherwise starts to get in the way. Corey is a very new writer.

One half of Corey is. The other half is Daniel Abraham, who is spectacularly good on his own. He did the Long Price Quartet, which is truly phenomenal, and is working through The Dagger and the Coin series -- next book is book 6 and last I think.

He also wrote some entertaining urban fantasies as M. L. N. Hanover.
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Reply #77 on: February 01, 2017, 11:51:03 PM

Solid opening to the second season tonight. They are really jumbling around the order of some stuff if my (admittedly faulty memory) is any guide.

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Reply #78 on: February 02, 2017, 04:53:54 PM

Goddamn, that was indeed an excellent double episode. Marred very slightly by having to pause it every 15 mins to explain to my wife what was going on. She really struggles to understand what they're saying.

I did laugh at the breaching pods labelled FedEx  awesome, for real

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Reply #79 on: February 02, 2017, 05:27:12 PM

They're obviously taking some liberties, looks like they are going to compress the last half of the first book with all of the second (skipping the Ganymede subplot completely).

Still awesome. Bobby Draper throws you, she looks like a little 'china doll', then you realize she's 6 freaking feet tall and could probably break me over her knee.

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Reply #80 on: February 06, 2017, 02:59:58 PM

They're obviously taking some liberties, looks like they are going to compress the last half of the first book with all of the second (skipping the Ganymede subplot completely).

Still awesome. Bobby Draper throws you, she looks like a little 'china doll', then you realize she's 6 freaking feet tall and could probably break me over her knee.

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The fact they were able to find an actress of similar stature to the book as well as heritage is pretty impressive go go human diversity.
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Reply #81 on: February 07, 2017, 11:21:27 AM

Most people probably don't care too much, but I figure F13 may: I really really like the fact that space ship combat at least tries to stick to realistic intertial space physics rather than starwars pewpew.

I should get back to nature, too.  You know, like going to a shop for groceries instead of the computer.  Maybe a condo in the woods that doesn't even have a health club or restaurant attached.  Buy a car with only two cup holders or something.

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Reply #82 on: February 08, 2017, 05:17:43 AM

I also really care about that. And I also really care that they use realistic space travel physics. If you pause it when they're showing charts and graphics of ships in flight and routes etc, it's proper orbital mechanics. Someone done been playing some Kerbals.  awesome, for real

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Reply #83 on: February 09, 2017, 12:05:15 AM

(skipping the Ganymede subplot completely).

Maybe not.

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.

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Reply #84 on: February 09, 2017, 12:21:29 AM


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Reply #85 on: February 09, 2017, 02:42:16 AM

They just dropped the name as their next destination, so the place itself will come into play in some way I imagine. 


"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.

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Reply #86 on: February 22, 2017, 11:23:14 PM

They did the ending of Leviathan really well even if it is odd in its placement within the tv series.

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.

-H.L. Mencken
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Reply #87 on: February 23, 2017, 05:15:21 PM

Haven't read the books.

I have enjoyed this TV show tremendously though.  Just great all the way through.
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Reply #88 on: February 24, 2017, 04:34:56 AM

Haven't read the books.

I have enjoyed this TV show tremendously though.  Just great all the way through.

Yep, me too.  Really good tv.
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Reply #89 on: March 02, 2017, 12:19:40 AM

They are doing an amazing job with this show.  Great version of the start of Caliban's War and they are finally getting Avarasala's character closer to the awesome book version.

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.

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Reply #90 on: March 02, 2017, 05:57:18 PM

Yah I really like this. Took me until season four of GoT to regard the ASoIaF books as the novelizations of HBO's Game of Thrones. This show did it much faster.
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Reply #91 on: March 03, 2017, 12:09:21 PM

Honestly our week revolves around this show now. It's as thrilling as GoT for me.

I should get back to nature, too.  You know, like going to a shop for groceries instead of the computer.  Maybe a condo in the woods that doesn't even have a health club or restaurant attached.  Buy a car with only two cup holders or something.

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Reply #92 on: March 03, 2017, 02:59:05 PM

Honestly our week revolves around this show now. It's as thrilling as GoT for me.

Same here, just superb. The pacing is relentless (I haven't read the books). And I am transfixed by Avasarala's outfits. I think she's my favourite character in it.

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Reply #93 on: March 03, 2017, 05:33:58 PM

Why does the UK not have s2 yet ?

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Reply #94 on: March 03, 2017, 06:13:58 PM

Why does the UK not have s2 yet ?

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Reply #95 on: March 04, 2017, 02:33:01 AM

Yeah, we do seem to get some stuff really early lately, so I should probably just shut my yap.

But I liked S1 a bit and you guys seem to be creaming about s2, so it makes me sad.

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Reply #96 on: April 12, 2017, 10:45:01 PM

Man, they are just fucking killing it this season.  Sooooo good.

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.

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Reply #97 on: April 13, 2017, 05:43:28 PM

This show is SO good.  I didn't think Thomas Jane had it in him to be honest.

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Reply #98 on: April 13, 2017, 05:56:48 PM

This show is SO good.  I didn't think Thomas Jane had it in him to be honest.
If they follow the books at all (and they seem to be trying to for the critical bit), you'll see more of him in a season or two.

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Reply #99 on: April 13, 2017, 07:03:18 PM

I have the season sitting on my DVR unwatched. Watch or delete?

I miss Good Eats.  *Sniff*
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Reply #100 on: April 13, 2017, 08:33:05 PM

Which season? Season 1 is a bit of a slow burn but Season 2 has been killing it week to week and is worth going through 1.

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Reply #101 on: April 13, 2017, 08:47:42 PM

Season 1 is worth it for itself, although the sfx on Eros are a little B-movie grade. And it's really important for setting up season 2, which has been awesome.

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Reply #102 on: April 13, 2017, 08:58:33 PM

Ya, didn't mean to come off like Season 1 was not good.  I loved it, but it doesn't have the momentum that Season 2 does and you'd be pretty lost without having seen it.

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Reply #103 on: April 14, 2017, 06:48:17 AM

You kind of need Season 1 to get that these guys don't start as best buddies, and how Holden ends up a celebrity the first time, and a lot of other backstory that has continuing significance.
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Reply #104 on: April 14, 2017, 09:08:37 AM

You need season 1 because it's extremely good and far better than almost anything else on TV.  Just because season 2 is better doesn't mean skipping season 1 should even be in discussion.

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