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Topic: "The Expanse" by Amazon [Formerly by Syfy] (Read 101013 times)
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Signe
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I have the season sitting on my DVR unwatched. Watch or delete?
You should watch it all. I even like it and I'm not a huge science fiction fan for the most part. Between this show and Better Call Saul, I'm a happy tv watcher right now. |
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jgsugden
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The second season is waiting on my DVR. I had mixed feelings about season 1. I will queue Season 2 up and burn through it one of these weekends. Thanks everyone.
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I'm a couple episodes into the second season and am noticing the typical syfy slide. Weaker acting, poor plot choices, etc. Especially those martian marines. I really hope they all die horribly, they are barely tolerable. Still solid performances from a lot of the leads though.
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Threash
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The plot choices are from the books.
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Khaldun
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I think the acting's been great. Plot is from the books, and it's mostly great. Not sure how I'll feel about a particular character from the 3rd book that I didn't like so much, but otherwise, fine.
If you don't like all those marines, well, keep watching.
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grebo
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Watched through E5 last night. Much better. Totally hooked again.
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Khaldun
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Frankly, the transition to the 2nd book's plot is rough--it's even rough in the books.
Reading the 5th book now and pretty surprised at the status quo shakeup in the middle. Will be interested if the show gets that far.
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The acting's mostly been good but one scene in the last episode of the season made me cringe.
Other than that though, loved season 2. I'm itching to read the books but I think I'll wait until the show is finished.
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lamaros
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I've binge watched a bit of this over the last few days.
Its quite good (hence the binge watching), but there is some very uneven acting, and some choices about how the characters are portrayed that I think diverges from the books for the worse. Or maybe it's just bad acting there too?
Sadly I think the guy playing Holden is one of these areas.
Makes me want to re-read the books though. I stopped after book 3 last time because it just lost it too much for me.
Having read the books I think helps me enjoy the show more, but it does also make me wonder at the direction sometimes: they belabour poignant points to the extent they strip them of impact a bit too often, especially when it comes at the cost of a little more (already written) supporting context.
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Abagadro
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I liked that sequence. It is actually a prequel short story called The Drive that they put out first in an anthology and then as a booklet as part of a Con promo. |
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lamaros
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I liked that sequence. It is actually a prequel short story called The Drive that they put out first in an anthology and then as a booklet as part of a Con promo. Ah, I guess that explains it. The book reference is quite glib (in a funny way) IIRC, so I thought the show writers had made it up to try and force emotion in. I'm (obviously) not up to date. |
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Abagadro
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Was definitely a tonal shift, so I could see how it was a bit jarring. I just thought it was well executed and in step with the whole "real physics" aspect of the books/show.
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lamaros
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One thing I remember from the books that seems missing most from the show so far (only a few episodes in to season 2),
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Abagadro
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If memory serves they actually make a pretty good joke about it later in season 2.
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"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”
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I liked that sequence. It is actually a prequel short story called The Drive that they put out first in an anthology and then as a booklet as part of a Con promo. It didn't really belong in the episode though ; True Story - I can't remember how he got out of his predicament. I literally can't remember the last bit when he was getting sandwiched and couldn't switch it off. Of course, I'm senile, so there's that. |
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Abagadro
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I can't remember how he got out of his predicament.
I have bad news for you my friend. |
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”
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Ironwood
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Really ? Goddamn..
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Abagadro
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That's why I like it. Physics don't play.
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"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”
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Tale
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Physics don't provide an afterlife neither, so how are we hearing his story? Also, as physics don't play, how did they know what he had done and how to replicate it?
P.S. I liked it and I will not hear a bad word said about The Expanse, except maybe the acting of the guy who plays Diogo.
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kaid
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Physics don't provide an afterlife neither, so how are we hearing his story? Also, as physics don't play, how did they know what he had done and how to replicate it?
P.S. I liked it and I will not hear a bad word said about The Expanse, except maybe the acting of the guy who plays Diogo.
Because his wife knew what he was doing and what he intended and they had solid tracking data on him all the way. So anybody watching saw a ship do what was thought impossible and worked until they were able to recreate what he did. |
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SurfD
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I am pretty sure it was mentioned that he had left his research notes or something with his wife, so there was probably very little work that needed to be done to re-create what he had accomplished.
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Yeah, his notes were still in his workshop he mentioned.
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MahrinSkel
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When she crossed over, she was just a ship. But when she came back... she was bullshit!
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This is back, and immediately diverges so far from the books, I suspect they didn't have the rights to the sequels.
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Tale
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I can't watch the new series yet where I am (without pirating), but they definitely still have the rights. The James SA Corey Twitter account (controlled by both novelists) has been all about the making of this series. They are still involved directly. Cast members have been eager to say that this season would shock and that it was the most intense for them, so perhaps they've diverged deliberately? BTW I request spoiler tags!
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« Last Edit: April 11, 2018, 10:09:03 PM by Tale »
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jgsugden
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Like TWD, I suspect they'll diverge to increase interest, but the reroute will be superficial with book characters that die on the show replaced with similar characters, with events taking a different path but reaching the same conclusion, etc...
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MahrinSkel
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When she crossed over, she was just a ship. But when she came back... she was bullshit!
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It's hard to see how they get from here to there as far as following the books, since literally the only thing this episode has in common with them is Chekov's Goo.
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lamaros
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I enjoyed the series, but Holden was miscast for me (a shame, as some of the other casting choices are inspired), and I found it was detracting from my enjoyment of the books. So I can't watch it no more.
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Abagadro
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Who cares if they are following the books beat by beat. This show is great.
As far as casting, I don't think Holden is wrong at all. My only beef on that front is that Amos should be older/more grizzled, but I like the actor's portrayal so much that I don't really care.
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« Last Edit: April 12, 2018, 10:20:09 PM by Abagadro »
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"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”
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Khaldun
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The guy playing Amos gets him just right. Alex and Naomi too.
Holden works for me. He was always going to be toughest to cast. You don't want him to look too movie-star Dudley Do-Right so that you get the idea that he's almost falling into the role of being Savior of the Solar System through a series of accidents.
Bobbie Draper is working for me now too; she didn't always earlier on.
I wonder if the missionary lady is showing up this season.
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kaid
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The guy playing Amos gets him just right. Alex and Naomi too.
Holden works for me. He was always going to be toughest to cast. You don't want him to look too movie-star Dudley Do-Right so that you get the idea that he's almost falling into the role of being Savior of the Solar System through a series of accidents.
Bobbie Draper is working for me now too; she didn't always earlier on.
I wonder if the missionary lady is showing up this season.
Yes the missionaries show up later this season I believe as I have seen some casting pics of her and some of the other priests. |
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Abagadro
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Now I want to see a Bobbie v. Amos throw-down SO BAD.
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MahrinSkel
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When she crossed over, she was just a ship. But when she came back... she was bullshit!
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Now I want to see a Bobbie v. Amos throw-down SO BAD.
In the books, it happens. But I doubt we will follow that timeline. Hard to do a thirty year jump on TV. --Dave |
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Now I want to see a Bobbie v. Amos throw-down SO BAD.
In the books, it happens. But I doubt we will follow that timeline. Hard to do a thirty year jump on TV. --Dave |
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Abagadro
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Shit just got REAL!
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