Avengers: Age of Ultron.

[Evildrider]

New trailer here.

Man, Marvel has a way of getting me hyped for their movies.  This looks good.  Also Wakanda chick getting naked.

[sickrubik]

I think we're just posting it all in the Marvel thread. that's where the original Avengers 2 trailer was at any rate.

[Evildrider]

Meh, it is about time this got it's own thread.  The Marvel thread is usually just for upcoming stuff and rumors.

[Samwise]

Yes.

1. One thread for each movie.

I kind of hate the big Marvel thread because who the fuck knows what's in there.  Not quite enough to go and butcher it up and make everyone wad their panties over moderator fascism, but I'm glad drider made a proper thread for this movie because I'd have missed this trailer otherwise.

[jgsugden]

It seems like the Marvel thread was introduced to talk about the things that span movies and individual threads get made for each movie when the talk is specific to that movie.  It doesn't need to be an exact science...

[sickrubik]

I think people are taking my statement a little more severely than it was intended.

I don't really care either way, I'll read both.

[MahrinSkel]

Usually a thread for specific movie has gotten made when its first real trailer came out. I think Avengers in general and Ultron in particular is so tied up in meta issues (since it integrates what is otherwise really separate franchises) that we were a little slow.

--Dave

[Trippy]

Lazy would be more accurate

[MahrinSkel]

I prefer to think of it as "mature wisdom".

--Dave

[jgsugden]

Mature.  Wisdom.  F13.

Which of these 3 does not belong with the other 2?

[Hawkbit]

I keep reading this as Age of Unicorn.

[jgsugden]

I keep reading this as Age of Unicorn.

No, Age of Unicron, the Sequel to the Animated Transformers movie.

o/~ You've got the touch.... o/~

[Ironwood]

I do like the nice wee reveal that Wanda isn't just shoving her powers to the side, but is actively slamming Iron Man into a wall.

That makes me smile.

Also, she's really hot in this and is going to distract me horrendously from the movie.  Yay.

[UnSub]

Also Wakanda chick getting naked.

Remember: the "GotG" had Gamorra topless from the back; that scene never appeared in the movie.

[Pezzle]

Pity Stark does not die. 

[Ironwood]

Pity? It was Pity that stayed his hand. Pity, and Mercy: not to strike without need. And he has been well rewarded, Pezzle. Be sure that he took so little hurt from the evil, and escaped in the end, because he began his ownership of the Ring so. With Pity.  Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends.

Or something.

Also, they're never going to kill Stark, so don't be retarded.  Though if it really bothers you, you can read that awful shite that is AoU comic and see Pym get his apple slashed.

[DraconianOne]

Stark won't die, we know that. But to give in to a moment of jgsugden-esque speculation, I have a feeling that the trailers strongly indicate who is going to die.

[jgsugden]

Stark won't die, we know that. But to give in to a moment of jgsugden-esque speculation, I have a feeling that the trailers strongly indicate who is going to die.

That is not jgsugden-esque speculation because he's pretty sure he believes differently than you.

[Ironwood]

Any speculation in a Marvel thread is jgsugden-esque speculation.

[DraconianOne]

Any speculation in a Marvel thread is jgsugden-esque speculation.

It needs a word.

jsugdulation?

[jgsugden]

Speculation falls into three groups for me: 1.) You take known information and add a minor wrinkle, 2.) You take known information and start to add a lot to it that has nothing to back it up, and 3.) You just make up stuff you wish would happen.

I try to stay between 1 and 2.  A lot of people go for 3.  Jgsuggestions (TM) are shit that expand upon spoilers and connect the dots - not always right (Coulson is not an LMD, Spidey will not make it back in the MCU by Civil War, etc...), but right most of the time. 

[Pezzle]

I know they are not going to kill Stark.  A MAN CAN DREAM!

[Tannhauser]

Pity? It was Pity that stayed his hand. Pity, and Mercy: not to strike without need. And he has been well rewarded, Pezzle. Be sure that he took so little hurt from the evil, and escaped in the end, because he began his ownership of the Ring so. With Pity.  Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends.

Or something.

Also, they're never going to kill Stark, so don't be retarded.  Though if it really bothers you, you can read that awful shite that is AoU comic and see Pym get his apple slashed.

Well done sir!

Looks like part of the movie might take place in China, more pandering (heh) to the Chinese market I bet.

[Khaldun]

I think they might kill Cap (for a short while) by the end of his next movie, though.

[Velorath]

I think they might kill Cap (for a short while) by the end of his next movie, though.

They could, but I don't think that kind of thing plays as well as it does in comics (and it's still a shit plot device there usually as well).  Even if they held off on bringing Cap back until the second part of Infinity War that still doesn't really leave a lot of room to really do anything with his death or his potential replacements.

[jgsugden]

[UnSub]

They'll kill the character of any actor who threatens to reneogiate their contract for more money. Downey Jr would probably be the only one to get away with it.

Marvel Studios is at the point where they can replace key Avengers with "spares" wearing the same costume.

[jgsugden]

The characters are going to go through the journey.  They won't kill a character just because an actor is difficult.  They'll kill characters for story reasons, but not because the actor is a pain.  If they have a plan for a character and the actor is no longer available, they'll recast.  Remember: They have a plan for the movies that goes half a decade beyond Infinity Wars.  The plan is obviously flexible, but you can only flex so much within a plan - ifyou throw it aside willy nilly, it wouldn't be a plan.

[Velorath]

Wasn't that all part of the latest "Marvel and Sony have really made a deal this time" rumor from Latino-Review that Marvel shot down already?

[HaemishM]

I THINK they can get away with recasting - but only if 1) the recast is actually decent in the role and 2) the stories stay at decent levels. I mean, if Marvel starts putting out substandard scripts with second rate talent, their brand is going to die about as fast as the Fantastic Four and Spider-Man movies have. The hardest recast they'll probably have to do is Downey, Jr. because he's just become such a star (or regained his stardom and then such) thanks in large part to the success of the Marvel movies.

[Evildrider]

I THINK they can get away with recasting - but only if 1) the recast is actually decent in the role and 2) the stories stay at decent levels. I mean, if Marvel starts putting out substandard scripts with second rate talent, their brand is going to die about as fast as the Fantastic Four and Spider-Man movies have. The hardest recast they'll probably have to do is Downey, Jr. because he's just become such a star (or regained his stardom and then such) thanks in large part to the success of the Marvel movies.

Most of these guys are still locked up for another 4 years at least, so it's not really a huge deal right now.  There are going to be so many new characters floating around by then that I don't think that these characters will be missed as much.  RDJ is probably going to drop down to cameo roles but still be around.  He's stated that it is going to be more about his age than it is the role itself.  Chris Evans has even backtracked a little bit about his quitting acting totally after his current deal is up.  ScarJo seems more than willing to do anything Marvel asks her too.  I think Renner may be the first one that totally bails, mainly cuz he's been shafted on movies and screen time.  I think Ruffalo will be around at least til he gets his own movie.

[jgsugden]

Wasn't that all part of the latest "Marvel and Sony have really made a deal this time" rumor from Latino-Review that Marvel shot down already?

I've only heard a single nameless 'rep' at Sony "shoot it down" by calling it an old "rumour" in an isolated comment.  The 'old' version of this topic wasn't just a rumour, it isn't the same story as this one, and Sony has repeatedly lied about their discussions with Marvel as proven by the emails.  As noted in most of the articles covering the statement, there are more reasons to think it was obligatory meaningless denials than to think it was a meaningful truthbomb.

[sickrubik]

As mentioned in the other thread... the Sony/Marvel stuff was in relationship to a conversation/negotiation that fell apart. There was a summit set sometime in January to discuss things again.

Also Latino Review is pretty bad.

[Khaldun]

I think they predict stuff the way that Jeane Dixon used to make psychic predictions--say a ton of stuff, sprinkle in a few obvious things like "A member of the Kennedy family will be involved in a scandal or tragedy", and then point only to what you got right as evidence of your psychic powers.

[Maven]

Whatever happens, it will be interesting. The meta-narrative of which actors stay, who is next, and where Marvel is going holds as much interest as any ongoing comic series drama.

Downey will be missed. He gets better with each new outing as Stark. I genuinely wonder who is going to follow him up, I can already foresee the gnashing and fan rage (Batfleck, anyone?)