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Topic: Crowfall aka Play2Crush aka Shadowbane II aka Nostalgia Online (Read 547727 times)
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Hutch
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How is trying to make sb2 not taking chances?
I didn't say they're not taking chances. I said crowing about it was bullshit. (edited to include quote) |
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Falconeer
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They are Shadowbaning this enough to grab my interest despite the visual style. Damn.
The fealty map is very promising.
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Gimfain
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Raph Koster and Thomas "blixtev" blair added to the team. Read some of blixtev's words on interdependent crafting but we have heard it all before. Its still nice to see some veterans making an attempt of a modern sandbox instead of the usual indie and korean junk.
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Threash
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Whoa Raph is in on this? why isn't he here!
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I am the .00000001428%
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sam, an eggplant
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Suddenly I'm actually interested in this, in a positive not-sneering non-sweet anticipation of IV black tar schadenfreude injection way.
Feels weird.
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Falconeer
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« Last Edit: January 22, 2015, 09:45:10 AM by Falconeer »
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Malakili
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I guess I'll give it the hometown benefit of the doubt for now, then.
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Goreschach
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bootlickers
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HaemishM
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If they can make a Shadowbane 2.0 that isn't a fackfucking mess of bugs and exploits, I'm all for it.
The phrase "MMOG industry veterans" does not fill me with any sort of confidence at all however. Add the word "crowdfunding" to the front of that and I'm even more skeptical. Even "successful" MMOG devs have a litany of failure to weigh them down.
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sam, an eggplant
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Yes, and that definitely includes Raph.
Thing is, unlike most "industry vetarans", I like Raph. He has ambition to move the genre forward, rather than iterating on endless dikuclones. So yes, he failed too, but I didn't spray the walls with sticky ropes of shadenjizz when that happened.
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« Last Edit: January 22, 2015, 10:19:43 AM by sam, an eggplant »
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HaemishM
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I like Raph too. He's all neckbeardy. Don't even mind Gordon Walton or Tyrant but I do get to laugh at this group crowdfunding a game that seems doomed to failure no matter who works on it.
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Nonentity
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Okay, Raph being involved does definitely raise my interest level from 'cautiously optimistic' to 'cautiously optimistic with CRAFTING'.
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But that Captain's salami tray was tight, yo. You plump for the roast pork loin, dogg?
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Falconeer
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I don't like what MMORPGs have become after 2003, and I like what MMORPGs were up to 2003 instead. When WoW came out the genre took a right turn at the fork and things went the way we all know. Good for many, bad for me. It's only natural that I am all over people trying to reboot the system as if it were 2003, no matter who they are but even more so if they are exactly the same people I liked back then. It's like someone is trying to go back in time and build a dystopian 2005 in which, instead of being shut down because the masses flocked behind the WoW jesus, you could develop another sandbox on the ashes of UO, SWG, Shadowbane and with the lessons learned from EVE. Four of my favourite games ever? Sign me in.
Do I believe they will be able to deliver the game they are talking about? Not at all. No, no and no. This could easily be another Star Citizen, minus the money.
But I certainly wish they'll make it.
And just a final addition: coherently with what I said a few pages ago, I don't think the game will fail to go anywhere because there aren't enough people willing to play this or because they will be unable to make it work. But because chances are they won't be able to manage the balance between expenses and incomes, and juggle between what is the most they can afford to spend on this compared to how many people are really willing to pay for it. Of course there is a market for this game, but it's not a large one. If you spend more making it than what is reasonable to expect to ever collect, then there's no point. And this, I am sure, is the part where they'll almost certainly botch it.
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schild
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I guess I'll give it the hometown benefit of the doubt for now, then.
Nope. This is still stupid. |
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Rasix
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I am the harbinger of your doom!
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I'm sure they have an elegant solution for all of the problems of these past endeavors and the technical hurdles are now more easily overcome. Plus, Raph and PVP, what could go wrong?  |
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Falconeer
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COME ON WE ALL KNOW THEY WILL FAIL.
But.
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Xanthippe
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I'm looking forward to it.
My expectations for mmos are pretty low these days. It's nice to actually have something to look forward to, even if it only accomplishes a fraction of what's being talked about now.
People's past failures don't bother me a whole lot - successes are built upon failures, and failures show that people are willing to try new things. It's a hell of a lot easier to be a critic than a creator. (I know, as someone with a great deal of experience as a critic, and a great deal less as a creator).
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Does this mean pre-casting will be in at launch?
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When speaking of the MMOG industry, the glass may be half full, but it's full of urine. HaemishM
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Threash
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Just give me a shadowbane with 2015 polish and graphics and i will shovel money at you until i'm living under a (wifi enabled) bridge.
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I am the .00000001428%
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Malakili
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Can someone put the name of the game in the thread title somewhere?
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Hutch
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Done.
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Plant yourself like a tree
Haven't you noticed? We've been sharing our culture with you all morning.
The sun will shine on us again, brother
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ezrast
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Whoa Raph is in on this? why isn't he here!
Sounds like you just answered your own question. |
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Paelos
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Error 404: Title not found.
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Raph only answers questions about Meatspace and guitar. Possibly fish.
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CPA, CFO, Sports Fan, Game when I have the time
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Goreschach
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Those aren't fish, they're just furniture for his seaweed.
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Lantyssa
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Hahahaha! I'm really good at this!
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Lucas
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Further proof that Italians have suspect taste in games.
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I was not supposed to get remotely interested about this. Damn  |
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schild
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You're still not supposed to be interested.
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Raph
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Raph only answers questions about Meatspace and guitar. Possibly fish.
I'll talk about my boardgames too! Once they're ready. |
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HaemishM
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I would be highly disappointed if I learned that discussions with Raph and the other Crowfall devs did not at least once contain the phrase "We're getting the band back together!"
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Rasix
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Has there been a HAM joke yet? I feel like there should be a HAM joke in here somewhere.
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Trippy
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I would be highly disappointed if I learned that discussions with Raph and the other Crowfall devs did not at least once contain the phrase "We're getting the band back together!"
Still missing Rich Vogel. |
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Triforcer
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I hope they call the money pitch "crowfunding."
And yeah, Raph's involvement makes me think that MAYBE this is more than two guys who created three screenshots trolling for meth money.
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HaemishM
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Has there been a HAM joke yet? I feel like there should be a HAM joke in here somewhere.
HAMFall. |
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schild
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I would be highly disappointed if I learned that discussions with Raph and the other Crowfall devs did not at least once contain the phrase "We're getting the band back together!"
Still missing Rich Vogel. If this happened, renaming it Studio Circlejerk would be a strong play. |
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EWSpider
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Well color me excited. Shadowbane is still my favorite mmo of all time warts and all. I'll be following this one closely!
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