Skyforge aka In Russia game grind you

[Trippy]

I like this game.  I can't explain why I do.  I might be broken.

Yes you are.

[Falconeer]

This game is boring as pretty much all MMORPGs are in 2015. But it's well executed, pretty to look at, and with enough differences from the usual to make it worth a few days/weeks if you are still into the genre.

[Flood]

I downloaded it and played for a week or so it was a little past mediocre.  Graphics are decent, combat you have to at least pay attention.  The class unlocks kinda kept me coming back. 

Then they had some sort of server / database error and I couldn't login for like three days straight.  Okay, it's FTP, no big deal.  Then I started getting "you're number 1,145 in queue" messages. Then I would try and login and it would hiccup - dump me out of the login system entirely.

Mildly annoyed - that led me to wading through a gigantic TESO download / install / patch process.  Now I'm playing TESO and really enjoying it.  Thanks Skyforge for pushing me to spend the time and money on trying TESO.

[Yegolev]

I was also recently lured into TESO and am enjoying it quite a bit, so thanks for giving me a relative reference point to compare Skyforge to.

[Flood]

I was also recently lured into TESO and am enjoying it quite a bit, so thanks for giving me a relative reference point to compare Skyforge to.

Yeah, I'm pleasantly surprised how much I'm enjoying TESO.  Don't want to thread hijack so maybe I'll post my ingame etc. info over there Yeg.

Anyway re: Skyforge.  Like Falc said, it's a decent game given the current MMO....meta I guess - I didn't mean to come in the thread and full on slam it.  I don't know if the technical issues are ongoing or not.  They probably got resolved.  I just got frustrated after trying to log on unsuccessfully for 4-5 days.  That led me to TESO.  I had the MMO itch and had been casting around for something to play (explains Skyforge) and one of the main reasons I didn't want to give TESO a go was the "only 4 classes" comments.  But after playing a bit I find that isn't really an issue with the way the skill system fleshes out.  

[Yegolev]

I think you have a fair point.  As I get deeper into cloud computing, I find my tolerance for service interruptions to be lessening since there isn't much excuse to have them if you pick the right place to deploy your systems.

[Falconeer]

TESO is so much better, without a doubt. I've been saying good things about it for almost two years. Unfortunately, it's boring too. It's just a matter of weeks.

[Ard]

I was also recently lured into TESO and am enjoying it quite a bit, so thanks for giving me a relative reference point to compare Skyforge to.

They probably got resolved.

They did. 

On the TESO front, I found it one of the worst MMO's with a budget I've played, only behind Wildstar in recent history that I can think of.  It's main sin was that it was terribly boring and never actually got me engaged in the world.  I tried 3 times and gave up, one of which was the free weekend a few months back.  Skyforge's story is terrible and so is it's voice acting, but I find the gameplay fairly engaging and mostly distilled down to bite sized chunks.  I'm sure much like Tera, I'll get bored of that eventually.

[Yegolev]

For TESO, I advise trying the adventuring minigame when you get tired of inventory management.

It seems to cater to OCD collection freaks.  Combat is sorta poopy.

[rk47]

For TESO, I advise trying the adventuring minigame when you get tired of inventory management.

It seems to cater to OCD collection freaks.  Combat is sorta poopy.

..what are you talking about?
What adventuring minigame?
I spent some time exploring delves...killing some named mini-boss in wilds...following the bland main plot and got somewhat underwhelmed by the promised 'variety of playstyles' available.

Pro tip: This game sucks on first person. Absolutely no excuse to recommend FP view at all.

[Teleku]

I think he's refering to the mini-game where you walk around a big world and kill lots of shit over and over again, since the main part of the game is obviously managing your inventory.

[Senses]

I made it about 3 hours before I realize that I didn't really care completed the next dungeon.

[Draegan]

This game suffers from TERA syndrome. The game systems are really neat, the combat is good. (TERA combat was awesome, systems were meh) But the content is fucking awful.

[Furiously]

It might be the oddest mmo'ish game I have played. But it has a chainsaw class so it's all good. I also love minion quest minigames. It's not horrid.

[WayAbvPar]

Furiously mentioned this, so I downloaded it and played through the tutorial. It is pretty, but feels very soulless and uninspired from the little bit I saw. I may go back and check it out, but I think I am about done with quest/mission based MMOGs. I need a world to wander around in at least.

[Lantyssa]

It has open world areas.  The problem you very quickly run in to is that you have to repeat the same dungeons over and over to advance.

[Ard]

That part wasn't even a problem for me.  It was a lack of people to play with.  It's a horrible game to solo in.

[Rasix]

We said "no Russia".   

[PalmTrees]

The groupfinder never takes me more than a few minutes for a squad mission.

[Ard]

By people, I mean Lantyssa and Rasix.  I learned to fear pubbies in that game pretty badly after the first couple of dungeons.

[Lantyssa]

I'm close to that point, but of course Ard isn't around when I think about playing.  (also I can't see what I am typing due to a cat.)

[Kageru]

The style is rough, the grind is not very well concealed and unlike warframe the mechanics of play are not inherently fun or fluid. But then, there's not a lot of competition.

[PalmTrees]

I run into the occasional lost cause of a squad, but the vast majority run just fine. However the 5 man group missions are much bigger crap shoot.  I know I'll run into the same fatigue I had with repeating missions I had in similar games like Dragon's Nest and Vindictus but for now I'm content to grind. If they lowered the time to kill on bosses by 20-25% though, that would help. You have the mechanics down so you're not gonna die, so let's speed things up a bit.

[Goldenmean]

I run into the occasional lost cause of a squad, but the vast majority run just fine. However the 5 man group missions are much bigger crap shoot.  I know I'll run into the same fatigue I had with repeating missions I had in similar games like Dragon's Nest and Vindictus but for now I'm content to grind. If they lowered the time to kill on bosses by 20-25% though, that would help. You have the mechanics down so you're not gonna die, so let's speed things up a bit.

What class are you playing? The game needs some major balance patching (and the first waves of that are already in the russian version). If you think things take too long to kill, just play a sledgehammer build kinetic. I solo squad bosses in about 20 seconds top. Grouping with other people for squads just slows things down.

Honestly, I feel the weekly cap system helps prevent the burn out I usually get from games of this style. It tells me that it's time to play something else for a while, and  it's also necessary to keep everyone in the same sort of "level" range, considering this has no level cap. The only time I've really gotten a burn out feeling is when I was trying to compete seriously in the mechanoid operations rankings.

[PalmTrees]

Primarily paladin, with lightbinder second. Have just recently gotten all the kinetic skills but my chapels are geared to tanking so my sledgehammering is not all that it could be. Working my way over to knight then planning on berserker, alchemst.

Sometimes in squads bosses and some crusher (shield) mobs seem to take forever to kill. The giant eel boss in the monastery, some of the naiads in Thais temple. Ugh, the squad pounds on them forever while no one's health drops.