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Reply #840 on: October 12, 2016, 02:47:07 PM

Console? Yeah, I can see that.

PC I get nobody talking 90% of the time. I'm also in the basement with a 1799 rating now. It seems only the upper golds and diamond are toxic according to the boards.

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Reply #841 on: October 12, 2016, 03:04:05 PM

Console? Yeah, I can see that.

PC I get nobody talking 90% of the time. I'm also in the basement with a 1799 rating now. It seems only the upper golds and diamond are toxic according to the boards.

I saw an article a while ago that was talking about how the middle tier is the most fun in competitive.  The lowest tier is filled with 12 year olds who are convinced they are the most amazing player ever but only are low because of shitty teammates (and thus take every match super serious and can't stand losing) and the highest tier are people who don't want to risk their ranking and thus are also super serious and can be assholish. 
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Reply #842 on: October 12, 2016, 03:26:16 PM

Yeah, low tier can get shitty. You can usually shut them up by reminding them their rating is also shit, therefore, they're terrible too.

Bonus points if they're in a group so you can point out at no time did they have any synergy going there, so it's not because they're queuing solo and stuck in ELO hell.

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Reply #843 on: October 12, 2016, 10:52:26 PM

I saw an article a while ago that was talking about how the middle tier is the most fun in competitive.  The lowest tier is filled with 12 year olds who are convinced they are the most amazing player ever but only are low because of shitty teammates (and thus take every match super serious and can't stand losing) and the highest tier are people who don't want to risk their ranking and thus are also super serious and can be assholish. 

That seems to be where I am. I suck, I know it, I'm 2500. What I don't need is lots of other people also telling me that I suck, when they're in the same tier I am.

And no, not console, PC. Anyway, discovered you can turn chat off. Turning chat off now.  awesome, for real

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Reply #844 on: October 13, 2016, 08:53:43 AM

Turned 'Auto join team voice chat' off and found the shortcut to toggle the text chat (ctrl-shift-c). Much better!

The PVE brawl is interesting. Fun way to learn unfamiliar characters, I'd never really played any of the 4 in this one before. Can't see me wanting to play it more than a few times though, but it'll be interesting to see if they make any more like this in the future. 

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Reply #845 on: October 13, 2016, 05:45:44 PM

Played it once.. McCree ran off and died alone 6 times then blamed us for failing because he couldn't aim any better than I can. (he got POTG with a max-zombie ult and so I got to see his 'skills' just before it)

Somehow it was more annoying than quickplay. Probably because I was forced to be Ana.

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Reply #846 on: October 13, 2016, 09:02:54 PM

Played it once.. McCree ran off and died alone 6 times then blamed us for failing because he couldn't aim any better than I can. (he got POTG with a max-zombie ult and so I got to see his 'skills' just before it)

Somehow it was more annoying than quickplay. Probably because I was forced to be Ana.

I played it three times so far.  Every time, I was last pick Ana (not that I mind, I like Ana but can never pick her without my team getting the vapors), McCree ran up the battlements on the left hand side and spent the match spamming "need heals" and got Play of the Game from hitting Q, and Hanzo and S76 spent the match hanging around the door tanking the elites.  Every single match.  It's weird.

I think this is the only time I've typed the phrase "Battleborn does this way better than Overwatch," but there you go.  Still, it's not like it's bad and I like that it adds some variety.  I'm liking this event a lot more than their Olympics one.
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Reply #847 on: October 13, 2016, 11:30:54 PM

the Halloween PvE thing is odd in that you'd expect something like that to be a light, fun, easy thing, but it requires some decent tactics and teamwork (on hard anyway).
Ana especially is integral in the boss fights, 'cause she basically has to put the boss to sleep, ult cree (their combined ults take bosses to about 20% health) and make sure no one dies in the chaos.
Like most of the game though it's fun for a few times, but you quickly see how superficial and repetitive it is.
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Reply #848 on: October 17, 2016, 10:19:02 AM

I have happily not played a single round of competitive overwatch ever and I'm going to stick with that strategy. People get salty enough about quick play.

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Reply #849 on: October 31, 2016, 11:33:07 AM

I still haven't managed to finish Mann vs Machine Junkenstein's Revenge on hard.  On a few occasions I've managed to get a team who all understands the basic strategy, but it's still easy for a bit of bad luck or a missed shot to blow the whole thing.  When you get someone who jumped straight from "easy" to "hard" it's infuriating.

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Reply #850 on: November 04, 2016, 10:17:24 PM

Just spreading the word; this streamer is doing a 24 hour charity stream, with overwatch and a few other games, so check it out if you are feeling charitable. https://www.twitch.tv/myuurin

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Reply #851 on: December 08, 2016, 10:51:49 AM

The Overwatch Christmas event will start 13th of December, if you are interested in lewtz.
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Reply #852 on: December 08, 2016, 10:53:29 AM

Nice.

Still trying to decide if I'm going to bother with competitive this season. I dropped out after hitting 1650 last season because if you don't have a group it's useless queuing.

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Reply #853 on: January 28, 2017, 10:10:36 AM

There's a Chinese New Year event going on now; the game mode is CTF.

Has the matchmaking always been so shitty or has it gotten worse? I haven't played since launch really, but finding a game has been rough today. I'll sit at the menu, then get thrown into a skirmish thing while it looks for more players, then kicked back to the menu, back to skirmish, etc. After doing that 3-4 times it eventually puts me in a match but it takes a while and has more loading and transitions than it ought to.

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Reply #854 on: January 28, 2017, 11:41:31 AM

I keep wanting to buy this because I'm bored with my other games. Instead though, I log onto twitch and watch people play for 15 minutes. The people remind me why I really shouldn't buy it.
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Reply #855 on: January 29, 2017, 01:03:41 AM

Unless you have a solid group and will play consistently at platinum or higher, I dunno that I'd recommend this.

I'm stuck in bronze (so bad!) and the matches can be so goddamn annoying.
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Reply #856 on: January 29, 2017, 02:05:17 AM

Unless you have a solid group and will play consistently at platinum or higher, I dunno that I'd recommend this.

I'm stuck in bronze (so bad!) and the matches can be so goddamn annoying.

I have pretty much the opposite opinion.  I'd only recommend this as a game for people who aren't really worried about e-sports.  It's like Smash Bros or something, it's a lot of fun, but I think it loses something when you start taking it too seriously.
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Reply #857 on: January 29, 2017, 08:58:26 AM

I'm with Kail; maybe I'm just too old for try-harding, but I just do quickplay or whatever the holiday event game is and mute anyone who gets annoying in voice chat.

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Reply #858 on: January 29, 2017, 11:21:47 AM

It's the only way to have fun. I tried competitive the first two seasons and only wound up angry every time I played.   Now I just QP or arcade and the game remains fun.

Dropping after the first round clusterfuck may get me a 30mi. Boot but it doesn't force me to sit there wondering how the fuck my "competitive" team thinks me as the sole tank and zero healers is goi g to score a win.

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Reply #859 on: January 31, 2017, 01:49:35 PM

Those games are the best.  I usually just pick Sombra and run around hacking health packs for myself when I'm the last pick and there's no tanks/heals picked yet.

Amusingly enough, I'm at a low enough level of play that those teams still manage to sometimes pull off a win.   awesome, for real

Tried competitive this season, got up to almost 1400, then plummeted to around 1100, got back to 1350, then said to hell with it.

Mystery Heroes for the free loot boxes, otherwise Quick Play.  I like Mystery Heroes, but I've seen too many times where someone gets their main on the other side, and that's pretty much it for my team.  Especially if it's a good Pharah.
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Reply #860 on: January 31, 2017, 02:24:04 PM

Yeah. So many players don't know how to look up, or like me they do but just can't aim for shit.

I've started learning how to swipe them with DVa on the charge. Maps where they can get out of my range were just fucked on.

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Reply #861 on: January 31, 2017, 02:37:42 PM

Roadhog is my current preferred Symmetra counter.  I haven't found anything else that "works".  Maybe Reinhardt if she doesn't focus you first.
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Reply #862 on: January 31, 2017, 02:39:19 PM

Yeah. So many players don't know how to look up, or like me they do but just can't aim for shit.

I've started learning how to swipe them with DVa on the charge. Maps where they can get out of my range were just fucked on.

It's pretty much a problem of how she can move in three dimensions.  Widowmaker is probably the best direct counter to Pharah, but even she can have problems against a decent player.

I do look for Pharahs, but for myself, she is very difficult to hit unless she's on the ground or ulting.   Ohhhhh, I see.
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Reply #863 on: February 01, 2017, 06:49:29 AM

If she's good and juking about up Dow left and right I agree.  However in my shitty tier she pops up, hovers in place and still wipes groups. Which is why I can smack her with DVas charge at all.

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Reply #864 on: February 01, 2017, 10:00:45 AM

I've discovered I get a lot of satisfaction from going into competitive matches and playing Torb on offense.  Partly because I enjoy the impotent rage of e-sports bros reporting me for my choice of character (lol) and partly because more often than not it actually works (I'm at silver).

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Reply #865 on: February 02, 2017, 06:41:36 AM

Yeah, same problem as Phara at that level. (I was low silver in Comp.)  While Torb isn't a slouch, taking his turret out isn't a problem if you've got a group with a brain and any aiming skills so they nab Hanzo or Widow and take out the turret then Torb. Or use D. Va to eat the turret while someone else kills it.

Most folks at that level lack one or the other and just pick tracer or somebody else equally poor as a counter, then charge in like the Turret's not an aimbot that never misses.

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Reply #866 on: April 14, 2017, 12:01:30 PM

Is it me or is the new PvE mode a lot harder than the Junkenstein one?  Having trouble even beating it on Hard.  Tracer + Rein is sort of a weird combo.

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Reply #867 on: April 14, 2017, 12:51:41 PM

It's easy if people are sensible, i.e. have the vaguest idea of which mobs are the priority targets and to stay slightly near the objectives. Hard does seem harder than Junkenstein was on Hard, for sure, but I think that's because the areas are a bit more spread out so it gives idiots more room to roam and make it impossible for the healer.

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Reply #868 on: April 14, 2017, 03:20:05 PM

Did it for the first time on Normal, didn't seem too rough. Do the harder modes give more XP/loot boxes or are they just for the challenge of it?

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Reply #869 on: April 15, 2017, 01:59:48 AM

I don't know, I've not paid attention to that. You get achievements, but that's all I know.

Something that makes me laugh/roll my eyes: in the pre-game chat one of the characters actually says, every single time, "Don't run off on your own Reinhart". And yet they do. Every single time. So many times Tracer dies because they're off miles away doing I don't know what the fuck. Spamming "I need healing" usually. Well DUH, come to the fucking objective where the healer, the Tjorborn turret and the thing we have to stand on to win are.   Ohhhhh, I see.

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Reply #870 on: April 15, 2017, 04:31:16 PM

The temptation to stray from the group as Tracer is so you can get behind the eliminators and the bastions to hit them in the vulnerable spot.  Trouble is it's pretty easy to get dropped when you do that.  I guess the idea is to blink over there, take your shot, and then recall back?

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Reply #871 on: April 16, 2017, 01:18:01 AM

Yeah I get that, but when the Tracer player is away somewhere shooting completely different mob packs than everyone else and just getting themselves downed over and over again I think it's more to do with them being fucking idiots.  awesome, for real

Also, surprisingly few people seem to know about the orange spot.

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Reply #872 on: April 17, 2017, 01:39:56 PM

Finally managed to beat it on Hard, but I don't think I'll even bother going for one of the tougher levels, because wow.

Main predictor of failure seems to be Rein wandering away from the rest of the group (i.e. not being in LOS of the objective and/or turret at all times).  He basically dictates the pace since everyone needs to be pretty close to him, and if he charges ahead faster than Torb and Mercy can follow (especially in that very last room) it's all over pretty quick.

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Reply #873 on: April 18, 2017, 01:14:15 AM

Yeah, anything other than the easiest difficulty seems to need everyone to have at least some awareness of how to do it. Prioritising exploders & bastions on the first bits and the last room is, as you say, the crux of it. The bastions really have to come down first and then the orisa's can be drawn out of the room one at a time and then it's easy.

I've actually really enjoyed it, I'd love if they had a decent roster of these kind of PvE maps up permanently. I'd happily play 9 of them a week for the 3 free loot boxes and rarely bother with the PvP again.

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Reply #874 on: April 18, 2017, 09:43:47 AM

Nearly failed on easy because Rein thought he should be wandering whereverthefuck he wanted to go, just like Tracer so there I was as Mercy trying to keep Tjborn alive and buffed with nobody else around moving the payload. No way I'm trying Hard.

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