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Reply #805 on: August 09, 2016, 08:00:42 PM

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Reply #806 on: August 20, 2016, 11:32:54 AM

People in this game are weird. Everyone was just running around deathmatching and generally being shitty, leaving me as the Tank the only person contesting the cargo. So after the third time of running up and dying to the swarm of characters escorting, I said "fuck this" and switched to Junkrat.

Note this is after I'd already said, "Hey, you know you can stand behind the shield and shoot through it instead of running up and dying."  I got an "Oh.. sorry" response from the McCree I'd witnessed. Also our healer decided to be Ana and couldn't actually shoot anything. Plus felt that the grenade was the only viable healing method and left folks to die when it was on CD and she tried to widow it up.. badly.

Clearly we're getting our ass handed to us when I switched. I was frustrated and just wanted to kill some shit. Which I wound up doing. Halted their advance - briefly - as the cargo made the final turn up the ramp. Of course right at the end, in the final 1m someone says, "Hey where's our tank.. "  So I tersely (but not shouting or yelling) stated, "If you all are going to deathmatch and not play the point, why should I? I want to kill shit too and we clearly didn't care about winning. If you wanted a tank, play one"

response: "He mad." "LOL it's only quick play" "chill"

Yeah, ok. Then why get pissed I wasn't a tank? *hands up*

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Reply #807 on: September 02, 2016, 11:48:56 AM

Major patch hit today btw (if anyone still playing this);
'Competitive' season 2 started and the first new map was added, plus a bunch of balancing.

- Changes to competitive look good at first sight, no more bs sudden death at the end of a draw match, supposedly more fine-tuned ranking (I'm still placing).

- The new map I'm not so wild about. I've only played it 3 times so far and not a single game went beyond the second point, actually only 1 went beyond the first point. There is a tiny bottleneck to get to that first point and half a dozen points do defend it from, it's like the Ancient Egypt map but worse.
Looks like they wanted to play some more with vertical levels further down the map as well, which is fine I guess, for the 3,5 heroes that can actually move vertically.

So not a great impression for the first map they added since launch, which is a shame since new and better maps is really what the game needs most.
I'm still fine playing my 5/6 games a week for the moment anyhow.
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Reply #808 on: September 02, 2016, 12:39:07 PM

I've been playing off and on and following. When Season 1 ended I just couldn't go back to Quick Play. Too many idiots, too much fucking around. The story up above was actually one of the "better" games in the week or so I did quick play regularly without a group. Fuck that.

The ranking fine-tuning was meant to be on the support side. They were getting fucked in ranks because the game (unsurprisingly when you look at the cards at end of matches) weighs kills, time on point, and damage dealt too highly vs. Healing or Mitigation. So as a DPS, you get good marks on two of those points you're doing great. Playing a double support match? You're fucked as you're splitting healing numbers AND aren't doing any damage unless you're Zen or Lucio. 

It's apparently still not working well as during the testing people were still reporting that teams were getting different rankings at the end. Support was always ranked 3-6 ranks lower than any DPS or Tank. (insert long-winded dissertation about why ranks should ONLY be win/ loss for this reason."ELO hell" is a thing only because you're a stubborn ass who hasn't adapted to your team.)

The maps are meant to have chokes. It's a team game and you've got to have a strat to counter things. All the Chokes have one or two ways around for certain chars to disrupt things on a push. They work great for good teams and make "trickle hell" players/ teams lives miserable, I agree. Just another illustration of how Blizzard develops concerned only with the Elite and lets the plebes figure shit out for themselves.

Best thing about the patch is Genji got several nerfs. Worst thing about the patch is Hanzo's projectile box and speed were increased. So yes, he's even dumber than before and even more players are refusing to switch off.

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Reply #809 on: September 02, 2016, 02:09:02 PM

Honestly, as someone who only plays competitive because fuck multiple Torbjorns in a match, I am glad if I get LESS skill rating from a win than if I get MORE. Sure, I should strive to be in a better league than Bronze, but the reality is that the more I grow the harder things get for me. So I am happy with staying in a lower tier if that means more balanced match from my limited personal perspective. In short, Skill Rating isn't a reward so it shouldn't matter if it grows correctly or not unless you think you are really good. The catch? You get a heap of "Competitive Coins" as a reward at the end of the season and that is based on your highest Skill Rating placement, so it pretty much contradicts everything I said. Heh.

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Reply #810 on: September 02, 2016, 06:40:08 PM

Honestly, as someone who only plays competitive because fuck multiple Torbjorns in a match, I am glad if I get LESS skill rating from a win than if I get MORE. Sure, I should strive to be in a better league than Bronze, but the reality is that the more I grow the harder things get for me. So I am happy with staying in a lower tier if that means more balanced match from my limited personal perspective. In short, Skill Rating isn't a reward so it shouldn't matter if it grows correctly or not unless you think you are really good. The catch? You get a heap of "Competitive Coins" as a reward at the end of the season and that is based on your highest Skill Rating placement, so it pretty much contradicts everything I said. Heh.

Meanwhile, as someone who doesn't touch competitive, I'm feeling more and more like the unwanted bastard child here.  News is all about ranked mode.  Special rewards for ranked mode.  Balance changes based on the top one percent of all players in ranked mode.  Casual players?  Huh?  Do they still exist?

Siiiiigh. It's not like it really kills the game or anything, but sometimes I wish Blizzard would drop this "ALL GAMES MUST BE E-SPORTS" shit and just let us play without ranking us or paying us in imaginary dollars for daring to be in the top 73% of all Bastions or whatever.  Overwatch is not a particularly great competitive game, it's more fun to play than to watch, but Starcraft used to be a thing so let's keep chasing that I guess.  Fifth time's the charm or whatever.
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Reply #811 on: September 02, 2016, 10:39:58 PM

Are you sure it's even the top 1%?  I'd wager it's an even smaller percentage than that.
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Reply #812 on: September 03, 2016, 12:30:55 AM

They make a big deal about the 'top 500' themselves, so unless only 50000 people are playing this it probably is a lot less.
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Reply #813 on: September 03, 2016, 12:06:04 PM

Yes. Blizzard aims things at those playing pro competitive. You're probably actually talking about 100-300 people max. The game is also one of the best-selling games this year and Blizzard claims over 7 million players.

That weapon being for 500 people? Is their version of throwing largesse to the plebes. 500 people also represents You know, the upper .00071%.




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Reply #814 on: September 03, 2016, 12:54:03 PM

I see that my best path to victory is to play Mercy.

 Ohhhhh, I see.

At least I like healing.

I need to remember how to play Zen again.  I did try him for 30 seconds before I realized it'd probably be a couple of games before I'd get the hang of him again.
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Reply #815 on: September 04, 2016, 01:58:12 PM

Getting 300 ranked wins fir a golden gun is nit some "elite reward" its literally the consolation prize, thanks for playing so much here's a cosmetic.  You coukd have a 1/100 winrate and still eventually get it

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Reply #816 on: September 04, 2016, 02:33:45 PM

Decided to pick this up finally. It's fun, I'm a total newb and am perfectly okay with remaining that way. Tried a few different characters out, seem to be having the most fun with... um... the healer dude on skates who does the heal or speed song... shit... he's a bard. I'm playing the fucking bard again aren't I?

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Reply #817 on: September 04, 2016, 05:00:50 PM

I see that my best path to victory is to play Mercy.

 Ohhhhh, I see.

At least I like healing.

I need to remember how to play Zen again.  I did try him for 30 seconds before I realized it'd probably be a couple of games before I'd get the hang of him again.

Zen is really good, however the best path to victory is usually a tank. Playing a healer on a group that doesn't group up and trickle-feeds ults is just an exercise in frustration.

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Reply #818 on: September 04, 2016, 05:47:11 PM

That's true, the one time I felt I really made a difference was with a team that actually stuck together on an attack point map.
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Reply #819 on: September 06, 2016, 03:42:44 AM

I see that this suffers greatly from the curse of prime time. Playing at my usual 'everyone else is at work or in bed' hours the games are mostly ok, good natured and balanced. 7pm rolls around and it's 3 Meis on a team and none of them will change, bitching and bullshit in chat, little to no group cohesion (not that there's much in Quick Play games any time, but it's noticably worse in the evening) and the games seem far more likely to be a staemroller one way or another.

Same as it ever was.

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Reply #820 on: September 10, 2016, 09:30:30 PM

Trying this out with the free console weekend, I enjoyed the first couple of games where my team facerolled the others, and then ended up playing healer in quite a few, mostly with good success. Played a couple of other characters and found the gameplay to be, well... boring and (to me) shallow. I get it that the depth comes from character selection and countering this one and their super with that one, but to me it just felt like TF2 crossed with spammy CoD-combat crossed with a random bunch of personality-less characters that I don't care about. I mean, the graphics are lovely in that Blizzard style, and I can see the appeal for those who enjoy that superfast style of (what I think of as) spammy combat (though I prefer the old UT myself I think), but I certainly don't see the value of it as a full price+ game (AU$100? lol), or the reasons for all of the BEST GAME EVAR. Costumes in microtrans-loot boxes is a shitty touch as well.

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Reply #821 on: September 15, 2016, 03:55:17 AM

I'm also getting tired of this.

Time after time nobody chooses tank or healer and I feel forced into playing one or the other. I also seem to repeatedly get put into games replacing someone who's dropped out because their team is losing badly and get a 1-2 minute game and a defeat. Nobody, I mean nobody uses voice comms outside of their premades. I keep trying only to be met with stony silence and the occasional German swear word.

The matchmaking is terrible. I am level 15 and am usually thrown into games full of level 60+ people. Regularly the opposing team is composed to 2 three-man groups and my team is all solo. Why not mix that up a bit eh? If there's supposedly 7 million people playing this then why can't the matchmaker do a better job?

Costumes in microtrans-loot boxes is a shitty touch as well.

That doesn't bother me at all though. I mean, it's all entirely optional cosmetic fluff. I don't care what they do with that shit, it doesn't interest me in the slightest.

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Reply #822 on: September 20, 2016, 07:12:19 PM

Time after time nobody chooses tank or healer and I feel forced into playing one or the other.
If only Blizzard had some body of experience to draw upon that would have let them predict this problem.
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Reply #823 on: September 21, 2016, 12:41:41 AM

Falconeer has assured me that things get better in competetive mode, so I'm carrying on trying to reach level 25. Been having some fun playing D.Va.

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Reply #824 on: September 21, 2016, 02:05:34 PM

Well, better or worse depends on personal preference. I can testify that to me Competitive and Quick Play now almost feel like two completely different games. The former, I still play it every night and I have put more than 200 hours in. The latter, which is basically the unchanged vanilla game as it launched in May, is something I have no desire at all to go back to.

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Reply #825 on: September 21, 2016, 03:40:39 PM

I do quick play when I don't want the stress of performing. Since I only solo-queue my rating is terrible and down at 2000-2100 nobody uses mics or talks. Awesome.

Quick Play can still be entertaining. Like last night our team did 6 Symmetras. You wouldn't think it'd work, but we destroyed the other team. Even after we lost our choke point of inevitable doom.

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Reply #826 on: September 27, 2016, 10:59:10 AM

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Reply #827 on: September 27, 2016, 01:58:34 PM

Haha brilliant  awesome, for real

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Reply #828 on: September 27, 2016, 02:17:28 PM

I am gratified to see an idea I had executed so well, even knowing there's no way I hell I will ever be in a group that could execute it.

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Reply #829 on: September 27, 2016, 02:27:19 PM

Just requires you and one other friend on team speak dude.   tongue

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Reply #830 on: September 27, 2016, 05:22:28 PM

As I said...

I solo queue 99% of the time. The other 1% those guys don't have mics or talk.

It's obnoxious how few people talk on PC. There's no middle ground between Console 12-year-olds who don't shut up and PC wasteland of "Hello?" (silence).

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Reply #831 on: September 27, 2016, 06:07:24 PM

It's obnoxious how few people talk on PC. There's no middle ground between Console 12-year-olds who don't shut up and PC wasteland of "Hello?" (silence).

Sure but since there are the 12 year olds I keep my non-group voice comms always muted because I don't feel like wasting time determining if my team are 12 year olds or people who are actually good at communicating.
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Reply #832 on: September 28, 2016, 02:23:05 PM

I don't even have a mic.

I don't think I've ever heard anyone talk anyway, but of course I still haven't made it out of Quick Play.
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Reply #833 on: October 11, 2016, 12:47:51 PM

This game has some really enjoyable cosplay.

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Reply #834 on: October 11, 2016, 07:09:56 PM

The fact that Mercy is the login avatar for everyone doesn't sell more costumes at all. Nope.

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Reply #835 on: October 12, 2016, 12:50:26 AM

I have a different character showing every time I log in. They're cycling through the halloween costume ones now, for sure, but it's not Mercy every time. I'm normally immune to such things, but I have to say that this set of costumes are very nice. But there's no way I'm paying a penny for loot boxes to get them.

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Reply #836 on: October 12, 2016, 07:54:07 AM

I got Junkrat after my 6th game of the night.  Two separate logins and 5  games prior it was Mercy.  No complaints.

You don't have to drop cash. All levels between now and the 1st drop Halloween boxes. If you REALLY want any of the drops they're also unlockable with coin this time around.  Skins are 3k though, and the rest are normal cost from what I checked.  (250 Intro, 75 spray, etc).

Im st 850 coin and got Pharah from my free box and Junkrat from a level box last night. Might see if I can save up enough for Mercy by the end of the event, though I never play her anymore.

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Reply #837 on: October 12, 2016, 09:41:21 AM

Cool. I'm level 28 now but I don't level very fast. I only manage 2-3 games a night, but honestly I'm not overly bothered about the cosmetics. They're fun to get but they're not why I play :)

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Reply #838 on: October 12, 2016, 11:08:02 AM

I'm only 85, but exp comes faster if I'm willing to tank my seasonal rating. Those games give more Xp than quick play.  I play 5-6 matches a night in quick play and manage a level or two every day that way.  That's 10-14 boxes, I figure, depending on how well I do.

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Reply #839 on: October 12, 2016, 04:35:03 PM

Well I've been trying competitive but it's sooooooo toxic. Every single match has people bitching and moaning and calling others retards and noobs. I don't understand how this is supposed to be better than quick play? Honestly, it's fucking vile.

In fact it's put me right off the game, I'm not interested in hearing abuse and profanity from 12 year olds.

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