Overwatch

[slog]

Anyone still paying attention to this?  It looks like it could be good.

[Trippy]

I signed up for the beta but no invite yet.

[Setanta]

Same. It's almost as if the game is going to Starcraft:Ghost on us :D

[Nebu]

Ellohime is casting gameplay of Overwatch on Twitch right now.  I really don't get the hype.  Then again, not a huge fan of spammy FPS games.

[Merusk]

The hype is among kids and FPS fans. A lot of us old farts were generally "Meh." or realized our reflexes were shit and weren't interested. I think the character approach is a nice touch and will deliver Blizzard ALL KINDS of new marketables but it's definitely not for me.

[Rasix]

I'll try it out.  But MOBA and MOBA-likes (this is a FPS/MOBA hybrid, or am I wrong?) almost require as much time commitment as MMOs, unless you really like getting your ass kicked.  My reflexes/coordination at this age are probably barely passable for this kind of content.

I'll give it a try, but I imagine it'll be like my HOTS experience where I get into the tutorial and quickly realize I don't want to spend any significant amount of time on this title.

[Nebu]

It's an FPS with a character grind and the ability to change your toon mid game.  It's very team objective oriented. 

Definitely 95% FPS and only a wee bit of MOBA

[Trippy]

Ellohime is casting gameplay of Overwatch on Twitch right now.  I really don't get the hype.  Then again, not a huge fan of spammy FPS games.

I played a lot of QuakeWorld Team Fortress back in the day and I enjoyed TF 2 too. I will give this a try.

I'll try it out.  But MOBA and MOBA-likes (this is a FPS/MOBA hybrid, or am I wrong?) almost require as much time commitment as MMOs, unless you really like getting your ass kicked.  My reflexes/coordination at this age are probably barely passable for this kind of content.

This is not a MOBA.

[Rasix]

Ohh OK.  So, like in Team Fortress I'll do good until others mechanics catch up with my inherent ability set learned over the years.

Still, the videos look OK.  I mean, it's going to be free to play, right? Why not give it a shot.

[Draegan]

The only moba element is that each character has three abilities and an ultimate. I don't think there is any character grind though.

[Nebu]

The only moba element is that each character has three abilities and an ultimate. I don't think there is any character grind though.

On the stream the characters leveled from xp.  I'm not sure what that did, but it seemed to be a part of the game.

[Draegan]

The only moba element is that each character has three abilities and an ultimate. I don't think there is any character grind though.

On the stream the characters leveled from xp.  I'm not sure what that did, but it seemed to be a part of the game.

Oh, didn't notice that, but I had meant out of a match though.

[kaid]

It's an FPS with a character grind and the ability to change your toon mid game.  It's very team objective oriented. 

Definitely 95% FPS and only a wee bit of MOBA

It is pretty much team fortress 2 taken out and polished a whole bunch with a larger cast of character options. Still given how much play i got out of team fortress I can see playing this and enjoying it.

[kaid]

The only moba element is that each character has three abilities and an ultimate. I don't think there is any character grind though.

On the stream the characters leveled from xp.  I'm not sure what that did, but it seemed to be a part of the game.

I believe the leveling up is mostly cosmetic unlocks of skins/color options/ character portrait type stuff.

[Malakili]

If I can play this without having to unlock heroes to play ala Heroes of the Storm, I could see myself playing the crap out of it.  It's been since TF2 that we've had a really exceptional team based shooter come out, and I'm on the lookout.

[SurfD]

I am willing to bet it will work exactly the same way as HotS as far as character unlock goes.  You will have X free hero slots on a weekly rotation, and then you play the game to unlock more heroes / skins / whatever.

[Malakili]

I am willing to bet it will work exactly the same way as HotS as far as character unlock goes.  You will have X free hero slots on a weekly rotation, and then you play the game to unlock more heroes / skins / whatever.

I feel like this would do TERRIBLE things to the balance of a class based shooter. 

[Samprimary]

Yeah, like, I'm pretty sure I would wreck the shit out of people with pharah because the entire character package is inherently styled to my FPS strengths ~AND~ her primary weapon is essentially the Quake rocket launcher, which remains absolutely hardcoded into my head

But if they go with this weird sort of tiered shit where she's an entry level scrub, that'll just suck

[Draegan]

None of these games have tiers, it just that players stick heroes/champs into tiers based on their balance (or lack of) and the current meta. I'm not a big FPS person, never have been, but I'm looking forward to this I think.

[Falconeer]

It's either this or Hirez's Paladins. They seem identical so it's probably a matter of which one comes out first. I am curious about both, although I find the art direction pretty "meh" in both instances.

[Maledict]

I am willing to bet it will work exactly the same way as HotS as far as character unlock goes.  You will have X free hero slots on a weekly rotation, and then you play the game to unlock more heroes / skins / whatever.

They have said that you wont pay to unlock heroes in Overwatch, so it won't be like Heroes it seems.

[Nebu]

Anyone here playing in the beta today?  I'd be interested in hearing some feedback.

[MrHat]

Looks fun and fast paced from what I could surmise from twitch.  It's TF2 and it's been a while since I've played TF2.

[MrHat]

Apparently this is going to cost $40+ and you'll still have to buy things later.

Hilarious.

[Merusk]

ROTFL.

No.

[Trippy]

If I get all the heroes up front for $40 I'm down with that. I don't like the HotS model.

Edit: get

[Merusk]

and you'll still have to buy things later

I would guess that with this being the model all you'll get is two or three heroes.

[Trippy]

Or it could be cosmetic stuff.

[slog]

One of the things I like is being an adult and being able to afford things.  Hopefully a 40 to 60 dollar price tags keeps some of the hackers and script kiddies away.

[Merusk]

Not likely. It doesn't keep them out of COD and BF.

[slog]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/3rtf6w/there_will_be_no_more_heroes_at_launch_no_hero/

As part of our interview with Game Director for Overwatch, Jeff Kaplan, we have confirmed that there are no additional heroes planned for release. 21 Heroes represents the entirety of the release roster for Overwatch. At this time, the development team does not have a finalized planned for releasing additional content and heroes.
"There will be no more heroes at launch. At launch its 21 heroes: what you see is what you get." Jeff said. "Whether in the future Overwatch has more heroes is sort of a TBD to us."
"A lot of this is... there's not like this master plan we know exactly what we want to try. Let's see the health of the game and where it's at. Let's see where the fans are at, and what they want."
"Are they feeling like, 'now that I have Genji, D.Va, and Mei, I feel overwhelmed and there's too many Heroes... or is it like 'Wow the game's really fun but like it's starting to feel stale, can you guys add something?' We're gonna gauge it from there."
"There's not going to be a heroes store at launch," Jeff reiterated.
Jeff confirmed that the Overwatch team is not going to be moving on after release, and plans to continue to support the game.
More information from our interview will be posted as we write up the full Q&A. Stay tuned to /r/Overwatch for more information as BlizzCon 2015 goes o

[HaemishM]

None of that makes a lick of fucking sense. I know Blizzard doesn't hate money. So why would they even consider releasing a MOBA like game without a plan for additional DLC they can micro-charge for?

[Trippy]

Just cause they don't have more heroes currently planned doesn't mean there won't be things to buy. See: Team Fortress 2.

[HaemishM]

Yes, but TF2 had its microtrans bolted onto it long after release. This is something that fairly cries out for a heroes store and no matter how much cosmetic shit they have planned, why limit yourself to pennies when you can have dollars?

[Trippy]

Hero skins are not cheap.