Terminator Genisys

[sickrubik]

There's apparently no thread for this.

So, yeah, it's happening. i09 has a blurb about it.

The.. summary sounds... terrible.

http://io9.com/terminator-genisys-insane-plot-reveal-is-a-total-nightm-1652315938


Official Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62E4FJTwSuc

[Merusk]

Someone needs to tell Skynet you can't keep fucking with causality like that.

Maybe that'll be the end of this season's Dr. Who.

[HaemishM]

Fuck me, that sounds idiotic.

[Maven]

Believe it or not, that isn't a typo in the title. It's a biting commentary on the general decline of the U.S. education system and a gullible entertainment consumer base.

Oh, wait, Rule of Cool? Nevermind.

[schild]

This sounds fucking awesome.

Features one of the Doctors, going to be complete trash.

[Rendakor]

Now Game of Thrones will have 2 Sarah Connors.

[Samwise]

 

fakeedit:

Now Game of Thrones will have 2 Sarah Connors.

   They definitely need to get Linda Hamilton in a bit role somewhere just to complete the set.

[palmer_eldritch]

I'm guessing this must be a reboot rather than an attempt to make a prequel to the existing films?

[Evildrider]

Terminator ended at T2 for me.  I have no faith in this reboot or whatever it is.

[Teleku]

This is a really out of date April fools joke, right?  Right?!

[Speedy Cerviche]

What's so crazy about it? Terminator series has always been about events being changed by time travelling.

I even liked T3, was a solid chase movie, good special effects, the time travel stuff was a bit complicated but made sense once you figured it out, so overall wasn't idiotic. Yes the angsty mid 20s John Conner character & love interest were annoying, but so was the John Conner kid character in T2.

The problem with T4 was that the story was all over the place. It went from tightly wound chase movies with well timed ups and downs + time travel spice to much more a much more generic action plot.

T5 could be very good if they get back to the original formula, as long as they don't dumb it down too much for foreign audiences which is unfortunately what most big budget action movies do these days.

[Lakov_Sanite]

The Terminator Games Part 1: Mockingfans

[Samwise]

What's so crazy about it? Terminator series has always been about events being changed by time travelling.

Terminator 1 and 2 (the "good" Terminator movies; I think people generally agree that 3 and Salvation were crap, and Sarah Connor Chronicles was good but it was kind of its own separate thing) were both about the exact opposite of that -- they were causality loops.  Everything happened the way it had always happened.  John Connor and Skynet both only existed in the first place because they sent their own daddies back in time.  At no point did we see anything actually change as a result of time travel; no events that we saw come to pass ended up getting changed.

Having the new movie undo the continuity of the earlier movies is garbage.  Yes, I know Star Trek did it -- if Star Trek jumped off a bridge would you jump off a bridge too, Terminator?  Would you?

[Yegolev]

Well, yes.

Someone gave me a RoboCop t-shirt which is the only reason I remember there was a reboot of that.

[Rendakor]

Sarah Connor Chronicles was quite good, apart from the abrupt ending.

[Speedy Cerviche]

What's so crazy about it? Terminator series has always been about events being changed by time travelling.

Terminator 1 and 2 (the "good" Terminator movies; I think people generally agree that 3 and Salvation were crap, and Sarah Connor Chronicles was good but it was kind of its own separate thing) were both about the exact opposite of that -- they were causality loops.  Everything happened the way it had always happened.  John Connor and Skynet both only existed in the first place because they sent their own daddies back in time.  At no point did we see anything actually change as a result of time travel; no events that we saw come to pass ended up getting changed.

Having the new movie undo the continuity of the earlier movies is garbage.  Yes, I know Star Trek did it -- if Star Trek jumped off a bridge would you jump off a bridge too, Terminator?  Would you?

They did change it. The events of each movie altered the circumstances of judgement day, but in the end skynet & judgement day were inevitable due to ongoing computer development, they happened anyway decades before any time travelling began in T1. The tech left in the 80s from T1 sped it up, the attack on the corporation in T2 slowed it down, but was picked up by the US military after leading up to judgement day in T3.  The daddy part was the thing that never made full sense, who would have been John Connor's father if Kyle Reese was never sent back in time? I guess it didn't matter what random dirtbag knocked up Sarah Connor even though they made a big deal about it.

So conceivably if the events of T1 to T4 have altered the plans of future skynet from its original plan at the beginning of T1, to make an assassination attempt on Sarah Connor as a child instead of as a 20 something year old for whatever reason. So I think the plot can still hold up, whether or not its actually a good film depends on plenty of other things.

[shiznitz]

What is the purpose of misspelling genesis?

[HaemishM]

It's edgy. Ironically. 

[Ironwood]

Sys due to computers and Geni due to Christina Aguilera.

[calapine]

Sys due to computers and Geni due to Christina Aguilera.

...What?

[Furiously]

What is the purpose of misspelling genesis?

Creation mythology + computers?

[Sir T]

Its actually misspelling the blend of Geriatric and Syphilis, which is the result of having the Inseminator still playing a Terminator.

[Malakili]

Sys due to computers and Geni due to Christina Aguilera.

...What?

Geni in a bottle.

[Ironwood]

 

[Azazel]

Well, I had little interest in this, but if Christina Aguilera is involved, colour me interested!

[Triax]

I would like to see this movie die before coming to it's diabolical fruition...


Therefore I ask,

Will Phil Collins being providing the soundtrack? 

[Sir T]

Unlikely. He had a stroke a few years ago and lost control of his hands. He can't play the drums anymore.

[Phildo]

Peter Gabriel's chance to step back into the limelight!

[Triax]

Peter Gabriel's chance to step back into the limelight!

About damn time, I suppose we can go there as well.

[Maven]

Not that it is important but Phil didn't have a stroke.

"There isn't any drama regarding my 'disability' and playing drums. Somehow during the last Genesis tour I dislocated some vertebrae in my upper neck and that affected my hands. After a successful operation on my neck, my hands still can't function normally. Maybe in a year or so it will change, but for now it is impossible for me to play drums or piano. I am not in any 'distressed' state; stuff happens in life."

[Sir T]

OH cool! I heard it was a stroke but I'm glad its not.

[DraconianOne]

He's also out of retirement and performing at a charidee concert in Miami in December. He'll always be out there. He can't be bargained with. He can't be reasoned with. And he absolutely will not stop making music, ever, until you are dead.

[Margalis]

What is the purpose of misspelling genesis?

I know the cool answer is to say something cynical about consumers and such, but the reason is probably copyright / trademark. (As well as search engines) That's generally why a lot of companies these days come up with unique spellings.

[Malakili]

Because "sys" has a computery/tech vibe to it I figured.

[Miguel]

performing at a charidee concert

I like what you did there.