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Reply #490 on: October 08, 2014, 11:47:23 AM

I try to imagine that most of the people I see have naked photos of themselves or a personal website where they earn income off their looks or gratifying someone's fetish.

There is a lot of sexual material from a lot of sources online. I mean, look at Reddit's GoneWild. It's difficult for me to comprehend.
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Reply #491 on: October 08, 2014, 11:50:17 AM

Much like a picture of you beating off might, y'know, cause you to lose some friends and be treated like a pariah by your family.

Oh, but you were asking for it.

Did you take the picture of yourself beating off and post it to the cloud?

If so, yes you're just as dumb as she is.

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Reply #492 on: October 08, 2014, 12:16:16 PM

I was actually talking about her 'My Boyfriend is a bloke and will look at naked women. I'd rather it was me.'  Seemed like really sound reasoning to me.

Except it only proves even JLaw does not understand men and naked women/porn.  A desire to look at random naked women is never reduced to zero no matter how many naked pictures of a particular naked woman are available.  

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Reply #493 on: October 08, 2014, 12:17:33 PM

Ummm.....

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Reply #494 on: October 08, 2014, 12:23:08 PM

Except it only proves even JLaw does not understand men and naked women/porn.  A desire to look at random naked women is never reduced to zero no matter how many naked pictures of a particular naked woman are available.  

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Reply #495 on: October 08, 2014, 03:34:37 PM

And yet, that is what almost everybody is now thinking about Jennifer Lawrence.

I'm not. Frankly, this isn't the 19-goddamn-50's anymore and we should have long since gotten over the notion that celebrities of any stripe are paragons of virtue. Half of the good film noir type stories are about some actor or actress from the 40's and 50's trying to cover up their nudie pictures or films. Nowadays we don't give a fuck. NOBODY but the prudiest of prudes gives a shit. It wont' damage her career one goddamn bit. We're past that. The media will tsk tsk while continually showing just as much skin as they possibly can without actually showing nudity but they don't give a shit either.

The only stars that might be damaged by this in their career are teen stars with some sort of idiotic good behavior clause. And even those don't mean shit anymore because Miley Cyrus killed everyone's image of what a Nickelodeon or Disney starlet is.

Seeing the pictures is not a sexual assault. IT JUST ISN'T.

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Reply #496 on: October 08, 2014, 04:07:00 PM

The media will tsk tsk while continually showing just as much skin as they possibly can without actually showing nudity but they don't give a shit either.

TBH the only part of this whole thing that I find really disgusting is all the news articles I keep seeing in my Facebook feed which are tsk-tsking at the nude photos or Reddit or 4chan or whoever, using a picture of Jennifer Lawrence in a revealing dress (almost never just a headshot -- and why does she need to be forcibly made the public face of this thing any more than she already has been anyway?) as the headline photo.  Because they know that a titillating picture with the words "nude photo leak" next to it will get clicks.

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Reply #497 on: October 08, 2014, 04:30:01 PM

JLaw made herself the public face of this when she got extremely upset about it, more (vocally) so than any other celeb.

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Reply #498 on: October 08, 2014, 04:52:36 PM

JLaw made herself the public face of this when she got extremely upset about it, more (vocally) so than any other celeb.

IIRC she didn't even comment on it publicly until very recently; it was her face on the news stories for long before that.  Unless you're talking about her refusal to comment as the evidence she was upset (which is valid, but then "vocally" is exactly the wrong word to use)?  If any of the sympathy being expressed for her in the media was genuine, it wouldn't have gotten expressed in the way it did (by continually dragging her into the limelight).

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Reply #499 on: October 08, 2014, 05:13:54 PM

Wasn't it JLaw['s lawyers] that issued DMCA takedowns over her leaked pics? Threads on 4chan were getting deleted like crazy and I thought it was because of her.

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Reply #500 on: October 08, 2014, 06:23:03 PM

Wasn't it JLaw['s lawyers] that issued DMCA takedowns over her leaked pics? Threads on 4chan were getting deleted like crazy and I thought it was because of her.

That could be, although it might not have been her doing directly, and if it was at her behest I'd say she probably was freaking out and not thinking clearly (understandable).  I very much doubt her intent was to become the public face of the whole thing -- it's more likely that if she was telling her lawyers to try to get rid of it she was hoping that it would have the opposite effect.  Not very Internet-savvy of her, but if she were Internet-savvy she'd have told her boyfriend to keep that shit encrypted and/or off the fucking Internet under pain of castration.

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Reply #501 on: October 08, 2014, 06:32:42 PM

It's her ex boyfriend now, and if there's one thing exes do with noods...

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Reply #502 on: October 08, 2014, 06:35:33 PM

Only people who are on the internet a lot are internet savvy, even among those raised with it.

This does not include most millionaires, celebrities and people of import.  The smart ones use a pittance of their income to pay for people to handle that.  Obviously not enough are smart enough to also tell their boyfriends, "Hey, you're not using cloud backup, right?"  This does not mean their information is up for grabs any more than your credit card information. I'm not sorry if that kills your boner.

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Reply #503 on: October 08, 2014, 06:40:19 PM

Just cause you use the Internet a lot doesn't make you Internet savvy. There are people that use the Internet all day every day and don't understand how to protect themselves. You have to know something about computer security and how the Internet works to understand what the risks are.
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Reply #504 on: October 08, 2014, 07:33:47 PM

Just cause you use the Internet a lot doesn't make you Internet savvy. There are people that use the Internet all day every day and don't how understand how to protect themselves. You have to know something about computer security and how the Internet works to understand what the risks are.

Pretty much that.  I think it also applies to understanding what happens when you try to remove stuff from the Internet (you can't really, you just draw more attention to it), which is why I don't think you can take the fact that JLaw became the public face of this thing (whether it was because of ill-conceived DMCA takedown attempts or what) as indicative of her WANTING to become the public face of it, which is what I was getting at.  Clearly most celebrities are not Internet-savvy, and you can't assume that things they make happen on the Internet are the things they WANTED to make happen on the Internet.  I doubt Adam Baldwin knew what he was doing either.

I'm curious whether this leak being mainstream news is going to motivate anyone to become better informed about computer security, or motivate Apple/MS/etc to make encryption easier for end users.  I'm going to guess not, since most people's takeaway from this seems to be that some guy named 4chan stole the pictures using evil wizardry, but if enough people Like this Facebook status to show they're angry at him he'll be robbed of his powers and won't be able to hurt anyone any more.

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Reply #505 on: October 08, 2014, 07:48:07 PM

Only people who are on the internet a lot are internet savvy, even among those raised with it.

This does not include most millionaires, celebrities and people of import.  The smart ones use a pittance of their income to pay for people to handle that.  Obviously not enough are smart enough to also tell their boyfriends, "Hey, you're not using butt backup, right?"  This does not mean their information is up for grabs any more than your credit card information. I'm not sorry if that kills your boner.

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I think it also applies to understanding what happens when you try to remove stuff from the Internet (you can't really, you just draw more attention to it), which is why I don't think you can take the fact that JLaw became the public face of this thing (whether it was because of ill-conceived DMCA takedown attempts or what) as indicative of her WANTING to become the public face of it, which is what I was getting at.  Clearly most celebrities are not Internet-savvy, and you can't assume that things they make happen on the Internet are the things they WANTED to make happen on the Internet.  I doubt Adam Baldwin knew what he was doing either.
Fair enough, I guess. She's probably the highest profile celeb among those leaked, and there are a LOT of JLaw pics being leaked so the fact that she's at the forefront is honestly kind of inevitable. There are plenty of better looking, less well known celebs thrown in the bunch but JLaw is apparently super popular. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Reply #506 on: October 09, 2014, 07:46:56 AM

She's the public face because she's the biggest star, and the news media knows just putting her name on a story will get them pageviews and eyeballs. So the news media promoted the shit out of this leak using her name as the lead story - "nude images of a number of celebrities including Jennifer Lawrence have been leaked" kind of thing. And every story accompanied by a picture of her in a sexy dress because eyeballs.

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Reply #507 on: October 09, 2014, 09:34:13 AM

Just cause you use the Internet a lot doesn't make you Internet savvy. There are people that use the Internet all day every day and don't understand how to protect themselves. You have to know something about computer security and how the Internet works to understand what the risks are.


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Reply #508 on: October 10, 2014, 02:27:50 PM

So I guess the next thing is "The Snappening". Apparently someone got access to an estimated 200,000 snapchat accounts and got all the pictures. Pictures are unsorted and uncatalogued or somesuch. Like someone just dumped a million photographs into a big sack. Sounds useless to me, but that's an awful lot of accounts.

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Reply #509 on: October 10, 2014, 02:40:38 PM

Have a link? Ideally something other than reddit.

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Reply #510 on: October 10, 2014, 06:22:31 PM

So I guess the next thing is "The Snappening". Apparently someone got access to an estimated 200,000 snapchat accounts and got all the pictures. Pictures are unsorted and uncatalogued or somesuch. Like someone just dumped a million photographs into a big sack. Sounds useless to me, but that's an awful lot of accounts.
If they were storing them in some kind of database (as BLOB's) and someone found a way to interrogate it directly but didn't have access to the indexes that matched them to message ID's, senders and recipients, that's what they'd wind up with, a big bucket of pictures.

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Reply #511 on: October 10, 2014, 11:00:55 PM

It's probably worth mentioning that something like 45-50% of Snapchat users are under the age of 16.
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Reply #512 on: October 10, 2014, 11:02:13 PM

Matt Smith has been exposed.  So there's some penis out there for anyone looking for it. 
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Reply #513 on: October 10, 2014, 11:04:27 PM

It's probably worth mentioning that something like 45-50% of Snapchat users are under the age of 16.

So, what you're saying is that Snapchat is the largest database of child porn in the universe. Kool. 2Kool. 4Skool.
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Reply #514 on: October 11, 2014, 01:16:35 AM

I thought the point of Snapchat was that the photos were automatically deleted?

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Reply #515 on: October 11, 2014, 01:17:53 AM

Matt Smith has been exposed.  So there's some penis out there for anyone looking for it. 

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Reply #516 on: October 11, 2014, 02:38:53 AM

I thought the point of Snapchat was that the photos were automatically deleted?

They disappear off the account / message, but like all things, that doesn't mean they are deleted everywhere.

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Reply #517 on: October 11, 2014, 08:06:41 AM

Matt Smith has been exposed.  So there's some penis out there for anyone looking for it. 

TBH if a set of pics came out showing my smoking hot ex Daisy Lowe, my evident Shibari-Kinbaku skills and my large swinging dick I'd be thinking this can only be a good thing.
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Reply #518 on: October 11, 2014, 04:07:20 PM

I thought the point of Snapchat was that the photos were automatically deleted?

Heh. That might be its selling point but it probably gets passed through multiple networks before getting to your phone, and they leave a copy on every one of them. What something like that is passed through its like an email. Emails don't just pass sluglike though a network. they downloaded from network to network to get to you, and unless the network actively deletes the file email then it stays there where the next network downloads it from. By law companies have to keep every email for at least a month.

Its the same as a photo. there is no point that the photo is moving to your phone. A copy is being created at every stage. Phone Uploads to local network to wide network to network hub to other hub to network to your phone. That's basic network management. Downloading is making a local copy of something on another network, its not moving a file at all. So when each network downloads it they are all making local copies and then another network copies it to themselves. (Obviously there is a bit more to it but this is the simple explanation to illustrate a point)

So, frankly, if what comes out of this is people start actually twigging that NOTHING you send on the internet is private in any way, it may do some good. But the media will never cover that angle of the thing as it will blow the quiet secret of the internet wide open. NOTHING on the internet is private. Hell when I was working as tech support I could read every email that the company people received if I wanted.

Frankly if you want to finds the perps of this just look at the network managers of each network hub that Data passes though on the worldwide internet web. All they have to do is search for JPGs on their server every day and DL them to a portable drive for later examination. Bing. It does not matter if the local copy of the customer is deleted as that will not affect the hub copies.

If you want to share nudie photos with your significant other buy a flash drive and hand it over personally or by post. Otherwise all you are doing is feeding porn networks.

Anyway, the point of this is that these people are having pictures of themselves seen by people they had not given consent to and their privacy is invaded. Of course anyone would be upset by that, but sitting on your high horse and saying that they should have known is bollox. Few people have any idea how the internet really works, and expecting non techie people to know that shit is totally nieve, and the media and advertising industry is not helping by spreading blatant mistruths about it.

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Reply #519 on: October 11, 2014, 04:53:57 PM

Being as Snapchat is providing the servers, you'd think any copy of the file they keep for any length of time would be encrypted.  Of course there's going to be a way to get the keys, but then snarfing every Snapchat ever sent becomes a MUCH more difficult problem than "grab everything off this filer".

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Reply #520 on: October 11, 2014, 05:04:15 PM

Of course it is but I was being simplistic to illustrate a point rather than getting bogged down in 2 pages of clarifications. Besides we are making assumptions that the snapchat photos are getting deleted off the server. They may be, but I wouldn't bet my life savings on it. AND if they get passed through intermediate servers then there's no way to guarantee that THEY are wiping their storage.

And frankly breaking inscription just takes time. It depends on how badly you want the Tits and how much expense and effort you are willing to expend to get them.

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Reply #521 on: October 11, 2014, 05:17:30 PM

Small note - it wasn't snapchat itself, it was a 3rd party snapchat service called snapsaved.com. Whose purpose, was to, uh, be a web portal to snapchat and optionally save pictures.
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Reply #522 on: October 11, 2014, 05:18:30 PM

Oh dear Facepalm

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Reply #523 on: October 11, 2014, 05:27:36 PM

Welp, there ya go.   awesome, for real

Again, I'm surprised Snapchat allowed for that to exist.  Again, apparently encryption is hard.  Derp.

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Reply #524 on: October 11, 2014, 06:26:10 PM

Rumor is that the owner of snapsaved* granted admin access to a bunch of random people the other day, who predictably downloaded all the things and then reuploaded them. Hence, the Snappening.


*There are a bunch of apps whose purpose is to save snaps; I'm not sure if this is the most popular one but it's certainly not the only one. Snapchat now actually allows you to save pics, but it lets the other party know you've done so. People looking to save noods either a) on the dl or b) before that was allowed in-app had to look for/create 3rd party apps like this.

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