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Reply #105 on: May 16, 2015, 06:25:34 PM

So many good lines but one that had me laughing(As I believe was intentional)


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Reply #106 on: May 16, 2015, 06:43:31 PM

This may be one of the rare movies I see twice in one weekend.

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Reply #107 on: May 16, 2015, 09:20:21 PM

I wouldn't be so sure. It is not going to be #1 this weekend and will struggle to clear 150M in the US. It will have to do big overseas to make back its money and that is tough with the IP not being that big internationally and no big name star.

Didn't the same thing happen to the Matrix?  Didn't open well at all if I recall; my theatre was crickets for that movie also, on opening night.  Then a few weeks later reality struck.  I think the same will happen for Fury Road.

This may be one of the rare movies I see twice in one weekend.

Critics said you have to see it twice.  The first time the shear awe of the thing is a distraction.  The second time you can actually appreciate and understand it.

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Reply #108 on: May 16, 2015, 10:15:05 PM

Jesus God, how did this movie get made? And how in fuck can we get more of them made?

It was gobsmackingly gorgeous and fucking insane. The story might as well have been written on a napkin yet it was perfect. It didn't need any more explanation, it didn't need any more dialogue. It was like a David Mamet film if Mamet was on meth and totally fucking awesome. I was smiling and laughing the whole time, and I'm sure the expression on my face was like I was being shot into fucking space.

EDIT: Also, having now seen the movie, what the fuck were the men's rights activists getting their panties in a twist about? I mean, in order for you to think the movie was some kind of feminist propaganda, you'd have to think that a good starting baseline is that women as the breeding chattel of the biggest warlord is somehow either a positive or at least a net neutral. I just... I don't even...
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Reply #109 on: May 16, 2015, 10:34:09 PM

No. Women standing up for themselves rather than accepting their lot as breeding chattel is what they object to. God forbid, some bitch isn't barefoot, pregnant or making them a sammich.

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Reply #110 on: May 16, 2015, 10:44:22 PM

EDIT: Also, having now seen the movie, what the fuck were the men's rights activists getting their panties in a twist about? I mean, in order for you to think the movie was some kind of feminist propaganda, you'd have to think that a good starting baseline is that women as the breeding chattel of the biggest warlord is somehow either a positive or at least a net neutral. I just... I don't even...
They weren't, it was probably an 'Outrage Marketing' stunt. All the actual "MRA" forums and such have no idea who these people that are supposedly them that are "upset", actually are.

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Reply #111 on: May 16, 2015, 10:50:40 PM

I thought Return of the Kings (which is where all that nonsense started) was a fairly well-established MRA site.

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Reply #112 on: May 16, 2015, 10:54:56 PM

I thought Return of the Kings (which is where all that nonsense started) was a fairly well-established MRA site.
Not that you really want a taxonomy of that particular dark corner of the internet, but RotK is a neo-reactionary "Red Pill" site closely connected to the fundies, they mock MRA's as beta wannabe feminists.

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Reply #113 on: May 16, 2015, 10:58:45 PM

I don't know what any of that means. And I don't want to.  But that doesn't sound like some bullshit false-flag operation. Sounds like some chucklehead wrote it because he thought that way.

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Reply #114 on: May 16, 2015, 11:02:55 PM

The point is that said chucklehead isn't a Men's Rights Activist.

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Reply #115 on: May 16, 2015, 11:11:49 PM

Sorry I can't distinguish between all the various shades of fuckwits that inhabit that particular backwater of the gene pool.

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Reply #116 on: May 16, 2015, 11:14:05 PM

The point is that RotK being the source is not evidence that it is not 'Outrage Marketing' astroturfing, those guys are pretty sketchy even outside of their rather...unusual ideological position.

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Reply #117 on: May 16, 2015, 11:17:51 PM

I'll apply Occam's Razor and conclude it is more likely to be a solitary dope with a web page.  Marketers don't like controversy on principle and suggesting a boycott as some sort of double-reverse back flip psychology is the "worst...astroturfing...ever".

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Reply #118 on: May 16, 2015, 11:21:21 PM

I posted on the Kings site to point out the Australian/American mixup. I regret it already as I feel like even a simple post like that has somehow forever stained me. I did it in hopes of tossing a small, innocuos bomb in there.

Anyway, it's a very good movie that I don't think will make very much in theaters. However, I suspect it will make a killing once it hits the home market and be remembered for years.

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Reply #119 on: May 16, 2015, 11:24:50 PM

Box office will depend to a large degree on how Tomrrowland hits.  It looks goofy as hell but I will follow Brad Bird into pretty much anything, so will go see it.  Its possible that MM:FR will have a long run-out if the great word of mouth really gets going. I hope it does as I want Miller to make more films out of his bugfuck head.

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Reply #120 on: May 16, 2015, 11:26:47 PM

I'll apply Occam's Razor and conclude it is more likely to be a solitary dope with a web page.  Marketers don't like controversy on principle and suggesting a boycott as some sort of double-reverse back flip psychology is the "worst...astroturfing...ever".
I'm not going to derail with other examples, but 'outrage marketing' is more common than you think, with several other cases directly involving movies. Forget double-reverse back flips, the rabbit hole goes much deeper than that.

In essence, any time you find yourself wanting to spend money because you're trying to spite some third party, odds are high that there's a setup involved.

Anyway, separate from all of that bullshit, the movie looks great, I'm looking forward to seeing it.

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Reply #121 on: May 16, 2015, 11:28:13 PM

any time you find yourself wanting to spend money because you're trying to spite some third party

Which is exactly never, because I'm not insane.

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Reply #122 on: May 16, 2015, 11:43:47 PM

Box office will depend to a large degree on how Tomrrowland hits.  It looks goofy as hell but I will follow Brad Bird into pretty much anything, so will go see it.
On one hand, Brad Bird but on the other, Damon Lindelof.

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Reply #123 on: May 16, 2015, 11:53:12 PM

Ya, definitely conflicted although Bird has a co-credit on both the story and screenplay so hopefully his influence prevails.


Oh, and "Mediocre!" is my new catch-phrase. Just letting you all know.
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Reply #124 on: May 17, 2015, 04:27:21 AM

I saw it in a Village (the people who helped fund it) theatre. The sound was broken or missing any side volume, so half the dialogue you couldn't hear or understand. The lights stayed ON for the first 5 minutes. Note to self- do not go to movies at Village theatres.

With the crappy sound, I'd only give it a 6/10. Hope you all see it in a place with better volume.

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Reply #125 on: May 17, 2015, 08:21:30 AM

I saw it in a Village (the people who helped fund it) theatre. The sound was broken or missing any side volume, so half the dialogue you couldn't hear or understand. The lights stayed ON for the first 5 minutes. Note to self- do not go to movies at Village theatres.

With the crappy sound, I'd only give it a 6/10. Hope you all see it in a place with better volume.


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The plus side is, it's a good movie to see twice.

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Reply #126 on: May 17, 2015, 09:09:12 AM

Ya, definitely conflicted although Bird has a co-credit on both the story and screenplay so hopefully his influence prevails.


Oh, and "Mediocre!" is my new catch-phrase. Just letting you all know.

I really want the Helpdesk folks to shout "Witness me!" when answering tickets.

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Reply #127 on: May 17, 2015, 10:07:45 AM

Yup, up to 99% now.  Ridiculous.  "....worth waiting 30 yrs to see."  and "Theron is the new Ripley"  are quotes that have been said.
Though I read an article saying Pitch Perfect 2 would dig heavily into the profits.   awesome, for real    The world is broken.

Pitch Perfect 2 - 70 million
Mad Max - 44 million


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Reply #128 on: May 17, 2015, 10:13:51 AM

If I had a tweener daughter with half-a-brain, I'd take her to see Fury Road tbh...  rather than PitchPerfect 2.  The former actually has a larger dose of useful reality than the latter; by far... especially for young girls.

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Reply #129 on: May 17, 2015, 10:20:59 AM

any time you find yourself wanting to spend money because you're trying to spite some third party

Which is exactly never, because I'm not insane.

This. I value my money a shitload more than some dickhead's outrage.

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Reply #130 on: May 17, 2015, 10:21:34 AM

It is more the fact that the last Max movie was 30 years ago.  it is mainly us older people that are going to have more of an interest in it.  Plus Pitch Perfect was a pretty popular movie and is recent.
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Reply #131 on: May 17, 2015, 10:26:43 AM

This is one of the reasons I'm flabbergasted that this movie got made. The last movie was 30 years ago, and wasn't very well received. The star of that one isn't in this one at all, and he's also gone so bugfuck crazy most of Hollywood won't touch him. The name Mad Max has almost no real cultural cache (Road Warrior might and Thunderdome less but Mad Max? Almost zero). The director is goddamn insane and the screenplay was probably written on a roll of toilet paper in crayon. With Hollywood's aversion to anything that isn't a sure hit, I cannot understand how this got a dime, much less how it got $150 million. I can't imagine a Hollywood exec getting dailies on this and not shitting themselves about how much money they tossed down the drain.

And yet it is such a perfect fucking gem of a movie.

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Reply #132 on: May 17, 2015, 11:01:20 AM

Yup, up to 99% now.  Ridiculous.  "....worth waiting 30 yrs to see."  and "Theron is the new Ripley"  are quotes that have been said.
Though I read an article saying Pitch Perfect 2 would dig heavily into the profits.   awesome, for real    The world is broken.
Pitch Perfect 2 - 70 million
Mad Max - 44 million
Mad Max is rated R so you can't really compare. 44 million is a decent opening for an R rated movie:

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/weekends/mpaa.htm
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Reply #133 on: May 17, 2015, 11:13:16 AM

This is one of the reasons I'm flabbergasted that this movie got made. The last movie was 30 years ago, and wasn't very well received. The star of that one isn't in this one at all, and he's also gone so bugfuck crazy most of Hollywood won't touch him. The name Mad Max has almost no real cultural cache (Road Warrior might and Thunderdome less but Mad Max? Almost zero). The director is goddamn insane and the screenplay was probably written on a roll of toilet paper in crayon. With Hollywood's aversion to anything that isn't a sure hit, I cannot understand how this got a dime, much less how it got $150 million. I can't imagine a Hollywood exec getting dailies on this and not shitting themselves about how much money they tossed down the drain.

And yet it is such a perfect fucking gem of a movie.

It may be that Theron and Hardy signed on to get the movie made, which is a smart tactic for stuff like this.   Find the big names first, and then pander the bean-counters.  Recall, the real star of the last Max was Tina Turner, not Gibson.  She was awesome in that.  Miller ran with that trope again here, with Theron.

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Reply #134 on: May 17, 2015, 12:34:51 PM

Just to chip in here ;  beyond, arguably, Max 1, was Max ever Really the driving force of the film ?  Was it ever really about him ?


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Reply #135 on: May 17, 2015, 12:47:54 PM

I just had the same discussion with the wife after making her sit through Road Warrior and Thunderdome last night and then seeing Fury Road today. Max has always been a bit player in his own movies. It fits well that way. I read a review that likened Max himself to a legend and the movies are stories told by other people that remember him being there, but didn't necessarily get the details all right. From the Feral Child to Savannah Nix to now, Furiosa and the wives. I like that angle.

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Reply #136 on: May 17, 2015, 01:58:22 PM

Yup, up to 99% now.  Ridiculous.  "....worth waiting 30 yrs to see."  and "Theron is the new Ripley"  are quotes that have been said.
Though I read an article saying Pitch Perfect 2 would dig heavily into the profits.   awesome, for real    The world is broken.
Pitch Perfect 2 - 70 million
Mad Max - 44 million
Mad Max is rated R so you can't really compare. 44 million is a decent opening for an R rated movie:

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/weekends/mpaa.htm



I was really just confirming what was said about Pitch taking profits from Max, which it did.  The R rating being a hindrance has been slowly going away... hell the Hangover films proved that and those were comedies to boot.  I think Deadpool, whether the movie is good or not, will be a bigger R opening than Max.

Also crazy that Pitch has already made back its production budget by over 100% and made more than the originals total domestic box office. 
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Reply #137 on: May 17, 2015, 02:04:52 PM

The overlap between the Pitch Perfect and Mad Max audiences is small. I disagree with whatever article said PP2 would dig heavily into the profits.
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Reply #138 on: May 17, 2015, 02:12:13 PM

Pitch Perfect 2 - 70 million
Mad Max - 44 million


That's domestic.  Add in the international numbers and you get this:

Pitch Perfect 2 - 118 million
Mad Max - 109.4

Mad Max made 65 million overseas, which is great considering the fact that it isn't a big IP like Marvel.  This is a really good haul for an R rated movie and everyone involved with Mad Max have to be happy right now.

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Reply #139 on: May 17, 2015, 04:16:09 PM

Just got back. Spectacular stunts, but I was bored to fucking tears after an hour. I really don't get the hype.

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