SW - Episode 7: Mary Sue wakes up but there's no coffee. RAGE.

[Merusk]

The one thread is more about Disney handling the stuff they bought with Lucasfilm, specifically the Star Wars IP.

This one is about the upcoming movie itself. The news affects one more than the other, even though both are affected.

[Cyrrex]

In either case, that link seem to be saying anything other than what we already knew (or was strongly suggested).  As a giant lifelong SW nerd (somewhat in remission at this point), I am starting to think this is a whollly good thing both for the movie and for the EU itself.  The old EU is so jam-packed now that it is virtually impossible to make any of it interesting any more.  This offers a fresh start.

[murdoc]

Cast announced: http://starwars.com/news/star-wars-episode-7-cast-announced.html

[Lakov_Sanite]

I'm not unhappy about the casting.

[Stormwaltz]

/scratchhead

I know Andy Serkis and Max con Sydow, the rest (of the non-ancient cast) I've never heard of.

[eldaec]

/scratchhead

I know Andy Serkis and Max con Sydow, the rest (of the non-ancient cast) I've never heard of.

Exactly the same.

Ergo, perfect casting.

[Shannow]

Any bets on how long before the internet breaks Starwars.com?

I shouldn't be excited but damnit....

[Mithas]

For some reason that photo made me geek out.

Doesn't Peter Mayhew have a hard time getting around now? I've seen him in several pictures with a cane and/or walker.

[Lakov_Sanite]

John Boyega was excellent as the main kid in Attack the block.

[Malakili]

Any bets on how long before the internet breaks Starwars.com?

I shouldn't be excited but damnit....

This is sort of how I feel now that it comes down to it.




Shit.

[Khaldun]

I wonder what they've got Von Sydow playing. He's got to be someone who fits into the timeframe of New Hope/Empire/Jedi. Good money on him being a villain of some kind.

[Lakov_Sanite]

I wonder what they've got Von Sydow playing. He's got to be someone who fits into the timeframe of New Hope/Empire/Jedi. Good money on him being a villain of some kind.

He'd be approximately vaders age, likely one of the last of the old imperial leadership.

[Ironwood]

Von Sydow ?  English Accent ?  Old, lean, gaunt ?

Is there any doubt ?

[Merusk]

For some reason that photo made me geek out.

Doesn't Peter Mayhew have a hard time getting around now? I've seen him in several pictures with a cane and/or walker.

Yeah, but that's because being 7' something and 60+ years old aren't good combinations. Honestly I'm amazed the guy is still alive because tall folks go first.

Von Sydow ?  English Accent ?  Old, lean, gaunt ?

Is there any doubt ?

Yes, but that way leads to the dark side.   

[Phildo]

Max Von Sydown is going to play the new leader of both the planetary governors and the imperial navy.  We'll call him a Grand Moffmiral.

e: Or was the Moff-punning in the other thread?

[Khaldun]

If he is a Sith, you could just call him Darth Von Sydow and that would be sufficiently badass sounding.

[Father mike]

They even got Williams to score it.  That's the moment I let my enthusiasm get the better of me.

[Evildrider]

I have no problems with this casting, but I would have preferred Bill Nighy over Sydow.

[Johny Cee]

I have no problems with this casting, but I would have preferred Bill Nighy over Sydow.

Wayne Pygram (Scorpius in Farscape) would be  , though I guess he has already played a role in Star Wars since he had a cameo as young Grand Moff Tarkin in Revenge of the Sith. 

[Surlyboi]

That was Pygram?  

[Stormwaltz]

They even got Williams to score it.

Unrelated: I listened to the Empire score again recently, and it seems to me I've long missed the best parts of it. Yeah, the iconic motifs are powerful, but there are also insanely neat and complex passages tucked away in there.

[Johny Cee]

That was Pygram?  

Yeah, looked just like a young Cushing.  I was certain they would do a live action show because I couldn't figure out any other reason to cast a well-known sci-fi villain actor in a bit cameo of an established character, and have his one appearance on camera hanging out with the Emperor and Darth Vader. 

Don't have much interest in Star Wars now, but damn I would've given that show a shot just for Scorpius-as-Imperial-General.

[Samprimary]

since the EU is getting banished to the alter-realm of "legacy" star wars, and being removed from official canon and timeline ..

is there like, a list of the absolute worst things in the EU that we can be glad didn't/won't happen and the new movies need pay no attention to whatsoever?

[Malakili]

A quick googling turns up a few lists, but I bet we could do better if we tried.

[Ironwood]

We're already doing that in the other thread.

 

[HaemishM]

I'm going to say "All of it!" and be done.

[Samprimary]

I'm going to say "All of it!" and be done.

I do want them to save Kreia and the Exile, but that may be a study in greys they arent prepared to address. Also maybe kyle katarn can stay.

[Ironwood]

But not Dash Rendar.

Dash Rendar is Fucking Awful.

[Shannow]

After reading the wiki entry about the Hutt Jedi from the other thread this is how I feel about the EU

[Thrawn]

Ahsoka Tano was always one of the things I hated the most...but I'm not sure that's even considered "extended universe".

[Khaldun]

It's not. Clone Wars is staying canon.

I kind of ended up liking Ahsoka. Took a while, but yeah.

I just really, really hope that if there's some kind of new Jedi Order, they end up having a scene where all the new Jedis agree that the old Jedi Order were a bunch of cocksucking assholes who stank the entire galaxy up with their pretensions. The Jedis should not have a big fucking office-building in the middle of the government, they should be in the equivalent of a monastery or cave somewhere away from the center of power, and they should be a bunch of people who have very different ideas about how to live the philosophy they follow--it should be like wuxia, where there's different sects and they all have different ways of operating within some very loose understandings about what it is to be "good".

[Samprimary]

that's actually pretty much how it kind of went down. Luke & company breathed new life into the jedi teachings, making it a much more pragmatic and noble institution as opposed to what came to be recalled as orthodox jedi-ism, which had become ossified, indolent, ineffectual, and philosophically sterile -- too concerned on things like making sure that jedi never formed attachments and never boned and shit like that. (this is another reason why I think they should absolutely keep Kreia - she had borne witness to the would-be fatal weaknesses of Jedi teachings of the time)

master katarn additionally added another pragmatic element of 'you know you're not required to only use a lightsaber, right? blasters and grenades and concussion rifles exist, so'

[eldaec]

since the EU is getting banished to the alter-realm of "legacy" star wars, and being removed from official canon and timeline

The EU has never been canon. This basically added clone wars to the existing 6 film canon.

[Kail]

since the EU is getting banished to the alter-realm of "legacy" star wars, and being removed from official canon and timeline

The EU has never been canon. This basically added clone wars to the existing 6 film canon.

Well, it depends on what you mean by "canon."  There was an established canon that authors were supposed to adhere to (e.g. you couldn't kill Luke off right after the battle of Yavin), and there were items that were explicitly stated as being canon (The Force Unleashed springs to mind, being explicitly declared canon by Lucas IIRC).

Nerd stuff:

[Lakov_Sanite]

5 levels of canon is a perfect example of why starting fresh is a good thing.