No Man's Sky

[Nija]

It's not so much that D3 patched in fun, it's that they removed unfun with a patch. Deleting an enormous feature that turned out to not work for the benefit of the game.

[Sky]

I know I'm digging the game and I guess I am filling the white knight role around here, but that comment was a reply to someone telling me to back off, so I was replying in kind.

Falc, did you check the popup at the lower right that tells you if it already belongs to a discovered species? Different genders/ages will scan as different entries in the lower list and can be named differently, but the ?? list will only count the species as a whole.

[Trippy]

Yeah it needed more testing and polish.  It's not finished by the extreme feedback it's getting.  I'm not put out by missing dinosaur-sized mobs or multiplayer.  But I'm quitting until they add new exploration tools and/or a real questing-like mechanic or anything to make gameplay more interesting. Patch in the fun.

What games have successfully patched in the fun?

1. Diablo 3
2.

2. Marvel Heroes

[Engels]

City of Heroes if we're actually doing this.

[Amarr HM]

Bah. I feel cheated. Being a bit obsessive compulsive I decided to explore this moon to the point of 100% completion in order to get a 325k Unit bonus and feel good about myself. I never completed a planet before so I assumed that all I had to do was to discover all the lifeforms marked as ? ? ? ? ? ? ? in the UI. There were 12 entries there so, again, I assumed there could be only 12 species on every planet -or at least on that one planet-. And I was wrong. When I was down to only two left (and that took me a LONG time), I finally found a new one that I hadn't recorded before, only to analyse it and find out that IT DID NOT COUNT towards the 12 species limit.

Different genders and ages show up as new species in the scanner but don't count towards the discovery counter. Need to be completely unique, a tad annoying.

I've only managed to complete one planet so far. I had 14/15 on the first one, but the last creature was not coming out to play, so I gave up.
Whoever gave that tip to use melee + jetpack has really helped, thank you! To boot; I just discovered a jetpack upgrade so whizzing around now.

[Trippy]

City of Heroes if we're actually doing this.

But that's after they patched out the fun, multiple times.

[Yegolev]

i mean i'm liking it okay too but i just know that nearly all of us, even the ones who definitely like it now, are going to get fatigued out by the grind rather quickly. there needs to be more going on with this game, for sure.

Nah, they make other games.  Just do something else.

Sometimes alternate genders of the same species do count for discovery.

And then there was the planet covered with gigantic rectangular donuts.

If you cut a hole in a resource, you can hide from radiation in there.

[Teleku]

Also remember, if you get lost deep within a cave system and can't remember the way out, you can just tunnel your way up and out via grenade launcher.   

[KallDrexx]

With all of it's faults the concurrent player base on steam alone is pretty massive.  It's also the 5th highest concurrent count ever on steam.

[01101010]

Ship upgrade slots only go in increments of 1-2 (mainly 1) if you are just salvaging. Sad panda, I am. I was so looking to score some 42 slot ship on a salvage run only to find out I can only get to 30 at the moment since my bucket is 29. At least I have a full suit and multi-tool.

[Sky]

And then there was the planet covered with gigantic rectangular donuts.

Yeah, I've seen those :) I forgot to rename the planet Dunkin.

Still in the pre-order ship, haven't wanted to do the repairs on the crashed ones and saving up for a decent jump in slots to buy from a trader (you can talk to landed ships at bases or stations). Those can range up to +10 slots from my current one.

I've blown some dough on the multitool and have it pretty decent right now. I get a little too into the style of it and like to change it up.

Suit I've just been slowly adding slots via the downed pods, should've stayed on the planet that it seemed easier to find those on!

And I can complain, too: seems tough to locate enemies in a dogfight. Had my first death when a distress signal went up. Took the first guy out fine, but figuring out who was good guys or bad guys and then trying to dogfight was a bit confusing. Not really a huge complaint, because my ship has zero point zero combat upgrades, so I don't feel comfortable complaining about getting shot down in combat under those circumstances. :)

[01101010]

And then there was the planet covered with gigantic rectangular donuts.

Yeah, I've seen those :) I forgot to rename the planet Dunkin.

Still in the pre-order ship, haven't wanted to do the repairs on the crashed ones and saving up for a decent jump in slots to buy from a trader (you can talk to landed ships at bases or stations). Those can range up to +10 slots from my current one.

I've blown some dough on the multitool and have it pretty decent right now. I get a little too into the style of it and like to change it up.

Suit I've just been slowly adding slots via the downed pods, should've stayed on the planet that it seemed easier to find those on!

And I can complain, too: seems tough to locate enemies in a dogfight. Had my first death when a distress signal went up. Took the first guy out fine, but figuring out who was good guys or bad guys and then trying to dogfight was a bit confusing. Not really a huge complaint, because my ship has zero point zero combat upgrades, so I don't feel comfortable complaining about getting shot down in combat under those circumstances. :)

Yeah I have come across a few 40-44 slot ships at the bases. Those will run you 17-36m units. Granted, I could take a day and visit my Vortex Cube plant for a day or two, but I am really liking the salvaging ships aspect. Most of the ships are complete shit looking, but occasionally I get a gem. I like that - that's my slot machine itch.

Space combat is horrible first starting out, but upgrading the shield and getting phase beams with an upgrade or two... yeah no issues anymore.

[Engels]

Ok, but let's face it, the game's dogfight mechanic makes Tie Fighter look like a modern game.

[Ghambit]

Okay, so I havent bought Elite nor this yet.  Which one is the purchase?
And if I were to splurge on a ps4, which is the better couch game?

Lastly, are there any helper apps out for NMS yet?  Seems a forgone conclusion there will be, if there aren't yet.

[01101010]

Ok, but let's face it, the game's dogfight mechanic makes Tie Fighter look like a modern game.

Maybe I'm enjoying it because I have had no pre-existing ideas of what the game could/should have been. I just looked at it last week and decided to blind faith leap. So you have to keep that in mind when reading my comments.

That and I don't have a wide span of gaming by any means, so I lack a lot of comparison chatter. Perhaps ignorance is bliss?

[KallDrexx]

For those interested: http://nomansskymods.com/mods/

[Engels]

That mod site is groaning under the weight of the userbase trying to fix mod the game.

[jakonovski]

So at first I was on board the hype train and now I just post links to angry videos:

edit: I think this spoils the ending though so be careful

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8P2CZg3sJQ&feature=youtu.be

[01101010]

So at first I was on board the hype train and now I just post links to angry videos:

edit: I think this spoils the ending though so be careful

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8P2CZg3sJQ&feature=youtu.be

LOL. That was pretty great. I got my ship wing stuck on a floating piece of copper yesterday so I can relate to that snippet.

[Amarr HM]

Found a system that was already discovered, shame they didnt take time to name the creatures and all the planets.

[01101010]

Found a system that was already discovered, shame they didnt take time to name the creatures and all the planets.

Time is money friend.

I haven't named anything... well save for my money making planet. Maybe once I get a ship I really like. But really, it is just planet 12389865 with tree 2325 and animal 98964. Holy shit, I should just go to work on one entire system and use all binary in the names. Shame there is almost 0% anyone would ever come across it though.

[Bunk]

Is there even a way to name your Ship? I couldn't find one.

[Samwise]

Found a system that was already discovered, shame they didnt take time to name the creatures and all the planets.

Even just hovering over each one to upload it feels tedious.  I can't imagine ever wanting to name any of this shit given that there's no reason to stay on a planet for any length of time.

The thing that makes this game so much less sticky than Minecraft is the lack of any kind of real creative tools.  In Minecraft you tend to pick a location and build it up and fortify it and decorate it and use it as your home base for a very long period, so you have a chance to build familiarity with the world around you.  If there were an option in Minecraft to name the mountain ranges and lakes around my home base I'd probably use it.  In NMS I see no reason to give any fucks because none of it is memorable and I have no reason to go back to any of it.

[01101010]

Is there even a way to name your Ship? I couldn't find one.

Nope. At least no way that anyone is aware of.

[Bunk]

Okay, so I havent bought Elite nor this yet.  Which one is the purchase?
And if I were to splurge on a ps4, which is the better couch game?

I've played Elite on Oculus, and NMS on PC. Elite requires the Horizons expansion to give you the same type of stuff as NMS - space and planetary.

Elite is stunningly gorgeous, and for an old guy like me - pretty dam hard. I have lost ever space battle I've been in 
It tries heavy for "realism" and can be played single or multiplayer.

NMS is colorful and occasionally funny in its looks. And it's ridonculously easy. I have not lost a battle in it yet - closest I've come to dying was from falling in to a hole.
It's purely single player.

Neither has any distinct story to guide it, they are both very sand boxy. Very different experiences though.

[Amarr HM]

Found a system that was already discovered, shame they didnt take time to name the creatures and all the planets.

Time is money friend.

Heh true, I took the the time to name the first bunch of creatures I discovered but have stopped recently. I may start again though, in the knowledge that someone may get a chuckle.

[Lakov_Sanite]

I'm glad the game is making so much money on the paid beta.  When I give steam my $20 in a year or so it's gonna be a really fun and polished experience.

[KallDrexx]

Looks like some people compiled a pretty extensive list (with citations) of a lot of game systems promised that were never delivered on:

https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/4y046e/wheres_the_nms_we_were_sold_on_heres_a_big_list/

[Rendakor]

I name every system and planet, but don't bother with creatures or plants. I only scan stuff by accident, when zooming to look for minerals on the horizon.

[Sky]

I've started naming more as I go. I named everything at first, then got a bit impatient towards the end of the first star system (8 planets), but for me it's way more fun just to be laid back and take it slow. Including naming stuff.

[Teleku]

I'm pretty much down to just fucking around 1 planet per system.  I've jumped probably about 20-30 systems worth, and I can tell there is a hell of a lot left to go for the story.  Thankfully I've upgraded my hyperdrive engine, so I can jump several star systems in one go.

[K9]

Found a system that was already discovered, shame they didnt take time to name the creatures and all the planets.

Even just hovering over each one to upload it feels tedious.  I can't imagine ever wanting to name any of this shit given that there's no reason to stay on a planet for any length of time.

The thing that makes this game so much less sticky than Minecraft is the lack of any kind of real creative tools.  In Minecraft you tend to pick a location and build it up and fortify it and decorate it and use it as your home base for a very long period, so you have a chance to build familiarity with the world around you.  If there were an option in Minecraft to name the mountain ranges and lakes around my home base I'd probably use it.  In NMS I see no reason to give any fucks because none of it is memorable and I have no reason to go back to any of it.

This reminds me very much of the difference between Terraria and Starbound. I enjoyed Terraria a lot more because you felt like the base you built mattered, whereas in Starbound everything was just another temporary dump en-route to a never-ending somewhere.

[01101010]

That list is pretty comprehensive. Though, I have on many plants watched animals chase down and kill other animals. Other than that... yeah. Can't argue... but I'll still play.

[Falconeer]

Had my first death when a distress signal went up. Took the first guy out fine, but figuring out who was good guys or bad guys and then trying to dogfight was a bit confusing. Not really a huge complaint, because my ship has zero point zero combat upgrades, so I don't feel comfortable complaining about getting shot down in combat under those circumstances. :)

That is EXACTLY what happened to me. That is, so far, my one and only death in the game and happened in the same identical circumstances. I didn't know who to shoot, and when I finally did, tryint to protect the big ship, I aggroed 12 fighters that killed me in four seconds.

[lamaros]

Hehe, my favourite bit from that reddit criticism thread:

The team programmed some of the physics for aesthetic reasons. For instance, Duncan insisted on permitting moons to orbit closer to their planets than Newtonian physics would allow. When he desired the possibility of green skies, the team had to redesign the periodic table to create atmospheric particles that would diffract light at just the right wavelength.

I think the guy is obviously crazy. Either that or he just likes lying to people.