No Man's Sky

[Rendakor]

I took one black hole, but the Atlas waypoint still shows up. I didn't get a new one either.

[Surlyboi]

Took the black hole, traveled roughly 170k light years and broke part of my ship in the process.

The anomaly showed up two systems later and said, "Are you sure you don't want to mess with the Atlas?" And now I'm back on that path.

[Sky]

I guess it's time to take a vacation from the thread for those of us taking our time?

 

[Engels]

Probably so Sky.

But having misgivings about a developer/publisher claiming their game had features which it ended up not having, and not coming clean about that until the last minute is 'pearl clutching'?

But a lot of people (I stress again, not me, this isn't self-interest, I've not bought it) feel that they've been misled by the devs and the gaming press, and that's not good for the industry in the long term.

May I ask, other than multiplayer, what features were mentioned that did not make it in? And as for Multiplayer, I never got from anything I watched that there was a multiplayer element. Just that there was a common database for naming, but to be honest, chances of overlapping are so vanishingly small that I bet a player could play this without once running into another player's named planets/systems/animals/flora.

[apocrypha]

Have a look at screenshots from E3 footage, all the trailers released over the last couple of years, etc. There was a lot more diversity of flora & fauna than people say there is now. Giant animals, miles-long flying snakes, towering forests, huge structures to explore, etc. As I said, I totally understand how things change during game development but these changes were very poorly communicated.

And as for the multiplayer, "At 0:59 he says explicitly says 'Yes' you can play with your friends and then follows up by saying you can play competitively" like, 5 posts up. This was not retracted at any point. Loads of the physical box copies (special edition or something?) have had a sticker placed on them to cover up the "online multiplayer" feature label. Players have already, while streaming, been in the exact same place at the same time and been unable to see each other. Sean Murray *still* wouldn't fess up at that point to the multiplayer having been pulled at the last minute.
Edit: https://youtu.be/AE0nuW-mQ8A - this was an oft repeated claim.

Like I say, I'm glad that some of you are enjoying it, I'm also glad that I didn't buy it and I'm also disappointed that yet again deception and shrewd/aggressive marketing have succeeded in lieu of just making a really good game.

I'll be interested to see if anyone here is still playing this in a month.

[jakonovski]

I have to be careful that I don't conflate disappointment in the shoddy port with game content, but the lead dev has let out some real bangers.



AFAIK, you can't fly into the sun in NMS because every system is inside a skybox.

[Hutch]

No Man's Skybox


 

[Rendakor]

Anyone know what exactly the "Records" are, when looking at the Discoveries screen? I've found a few on some planets but I'm not exactly sure how, nor how I might go about finding the rest of the for the credit bonus.

[Falconeer]

I'll be interested to see if anyone here is still playing this in a month.

It's 2016. Except Minecraft, no one is still playing the same game a month after purchse. Any game.

[lesion]

Anyone know what exactly the "Records" are, when looking at the Discoveries screen? I've found a few on some planets but I'm not exactly sure how, nor how I might go about finding the rest of the for the credit bonus.

For the 200k bonus? You need to scan each unique species on the planet. Also, if you spot Emeril (bright green crystal) each stack is worth about 150k.

[Rendakor]

The 200k isn't fixed, it varies with the number of things. Is it just animals or plants too?

[MrHat]

I'll be interested to see if anyone here is still playing this in a month.

It's 2016. Except Minecraft, no one is still playing the same game a month after purchse. Any game.

And Rocket League.


On NMS: I understand there are no load times? I don't mind pop-in but I'm not picking anything up no PS4 that has load times.

[01101010]

For the 200k bonus? You need to scan each unique species on the planet. Also, if you spot Emeril (bright green crystal) each stack is worth about 150k.

pearl and vortex cubes have a quicker return... if you have the inventory.

Wish you could sell ships... I love salvaging wrecks.

[Rendakor]

I'll be interested to see if anyone here is still playing this in a month.

It's 2016. Except Minecraft, no one is still playing the same game a month after purchse. Any game.

And Rocket League.


On NMS: I understand there are no load times? I don't mind pop-in but I'm not picking anything up no PS4 that has load times.

The only load times are when warping between systems, and it doesn't cut to a loading screen; you just sit there with stuff blurring past for a while.

[Sky]

I'll be interested to see if anyone here is still playing this in a month.

It's 2016. Except Minecraft, no one is still playing the same game a month after purchse. Any game.

And GTAV.

And Civ V.

And Rocksmith.

And Starbound.

I don't even play games much, and those are all 'old' games I've played since I installed Win 10 a couple months ago.

Anyway. Apoc, Murray may have had his fun with the marketing, but it was pretty clear to me exactly what the game was going to be, and I got exactly what I expected. And it's awesome. And honestly, I enjoyed how much Murray fucked with the hype train, because most of the people on it were fucking morons.

[Engels]

stuff showing that the lead dev did indeed state there would be multiplayer

That does seem odd. Either they had it in development, and the bean counters screeched it to a halt due to the cost of the backend server infrastructure cost it would take, or it was a swindle. It seems hard to believe it was a swindle, since there's a lot of care and work in the rest of the game. I suspect that there's an overworked dev in that company that threw up his arms in frustration and walked away from the multiplayer code, and then the company 'forgot' to inform the public.

[apocrypha]

Yeah I don't for a second think the omission of multiplayer was a swindle from the start, it just had to get cut due to time/money constraints, that's fine. But all it would have taken was one tweet from Murray, the week it went gold, saying "Sorry folks, we've had to cut multiplayer for now, hoping to get it back in sometime in the future". But he didn't, and he still continues to evade the issue and dissemble to this day. That's deception.

[lesion]

The 200k isn't fixed, it varies with the number of things. Is it just animals or plants too?

Ah. Just animals so far for me, but there seem to be subspecies that still show up as red scan dots without counting towards the bonus.

[Falconeer]

Same with waypoints. There is room for six in the UI for each planet and I thought that was all you were supposed to find, but no there are many many more than six. Weird UI.

[Reg]

Am I a bad person for not wanting to obsessively track down each and every plant, animal and way point? I'm having much more fun plundering resources and shooting down sentinels. Oh, and is there any reason to bother with a boltcaster when you have a plasma grenade launcher? Slots in my multitool are at a premium right now.

[01101010]

I kitted my multi-tool with all the offensive mining tool upgrades I have found. I don't even slot a boltcaster anymore.

[Bunk]

Its tempting to find a nice planet and fully explore it, strip it down, etc - but what;s the point? You can't actually accumulate anything in the game other than credits. At first I got exited when a ridiculous looking animal pointed out a little blob of rare minerals to me, and then I realized all it meant was either selling then for a few thousand credits, or permanently loosing an inventory slot on the hopes of finding more some indefinite time in the future.

Didn't they say in the day one patch that they upped inventory by 5x and 10x on ships? I assume that means stack sizes, seeing as my ship only has 17 slots as is. Doesn't help much when trade goods take up a slot each. This game totally satisfies my explorer's itch, but it makes my hoarder tendencies cry.

[schild]

Has the PC one been patched yet? I don't even want to play it til it is.

[Bunk]

Looks like Steam installed an 18 MB patch on mine last night.

Looks like the main "issue" patch is next week.

That said, I've had no significant issues. One CTD in 7 hours, no performance issues.

[Wasted]

I was going to wait for a sale on this game but decided its just the sort of game I am in the mood for right now so I caved.

Started on a planet that has already been discovered, later on while i check the discoveries I see a new waypoint has been found by this other player, so there definitely seems to be someone else running around in my system.

The game is what I expected but fuck the inventory management is worse than anyone has put words too, its the fucking worst of any game.  Fill a world with resources you have no idea what you actually need or not, the desire to keep a good stockpile of all the fuels you need and throw in non stacking trade items and it is the worst thing in the game hands down.

[Falconeer]

I understand why they wanted to put an inventory limit, but sadly it's the biggest bottleneck to fun at the moment. You are constantly thinking about what you are collecting and how it will impact you or limit you. It takes the fun out of exploring too. It is just too damn tight.

[Bunk]

Its the little details. Just discovered that if I have all the slots in my multitool full, I can't actually see what upgrades I know (or what I need to build them) without removing an upgrade from my tool.
The only way to remove anything in the game is to destroy it.

I do keep finding new things though, just discovered I could talk to a ship that landed at the little outpost I was at. He offered to sell me his 23 slot ship. I was excited until I realized I was 2 million short. Guess there is a reason to grind credits.

[Surlyboi]

I guess it's time to take a vacation from the thread for those of us taking our time?

 

Nah, everyone's story is different depending on what path they choose and even if they choose the same path, RNJesus still decides how you encounter shit.

[Khaldun]

Just started tonight. The inventory limits are a bit too tight. That's the main thing that's crimping my sense of fun at this point.

[Sky]

Once I got my suit to 16 I find it's a decent balance of space vs decision making.

Mostly still just poking around planets. Learned a lot of the Gek language in the original system, which was chock full of planets. The second system, new aliens, one small moon and small planet...and one huge planet filled with rabid psychotic giant ticks. Seriously fuck that place!

[Rendakor]

The lack of inventory is really annoying me too, combined with the fact that the game doesn't store useful information about the planets you visit. I don't give a fuck what the names of the monsters are; why doesn't it catalog what minerals you've found? I need a bunch of Iridium for a warp drive upgrade, and I know I found some like 3 system ago but I vendored it because it wasn't useful. Now I need it and have no fucking idea where it is. Combine that with the fact that the rare minerals all look the same (tall blue pillar, gold-ish sphere, floating coppery sphere) and actually getting the material you want is a tedious RNG process.

I really want an infinite inventory mod.

[Khaldun]

Can you look at a map? That part is frustrating me so far--I want to see a view from above of where the POIs are in relation to my landing site on the first planet.

[Surlyboi]

Can you look at a map? That part is frustrating me so far--I want to see a view from above of where the POIs are in relation to my landing site on the first planet.

You cannot and that too, makes me stabby. I want to be able to go back to the outpost near the cave of infinite void cubes because, shit, that's how I made my first million and bought my current badass ship.

[Khaldun]

Is there a way to mark a particular POI, then? I would love to mark the place where I met the alien who would buy shit. Pretty tough to remember which that was.

[01101010]

No markers that I can see...at least ones you can mark yourself. I am currently on a planet with grav orbs which is pretty sweet, but they are only up on the surface and this planet has KOS sentinels and picking up the orbs summons the dog and walker ones. It is a pita to loot and run but actually kinda fun. Now to figure out where a trading post is.