No Man's Sky

[apocrypha]

I strongly doubt it'll live up to 10% of the hype - a hype that has been entirely driven by disappointment with the other attempts to revive the space explorer genre in recent years, namely E:D and Star Citizen. E:D has shown us that looking pretty but with dull content makes a dull game, and SC has shown us that if you promise the moon on a stick you can fleece the fuck out of 1000s of people.

I predict that NMS will be closer to E:D, i.e. very pretty but ultimately shallow. Unless modding support is very good of course, which the jury is out on for now.

My views on this haven't changed since 3 months ago. It's been entertaining, and slightly bemusing, to watch the ridiculous hopes invested in this and the frothy dashing of those hopes before it's even released, but it remains for me very much a 'wait & see' game.

Unless there's some major revelations in the next 10 days it's probably going to be a Steam winter sale game.

[schild]

I don't get what people want out of a space exploration sim.

It's planets, space, and some life.

Real space is more boring.

This entire planet is going to be let down by literally everything forever. Can't we just enjoy nice colors and elements with bullshit names? Damn.

[jakonovski]

Still haven't bought a PS4, glad this one's coming out to PC. The price is a bit shitty.

The thing about procedural game worlds is, IMO, that you need to put in significant hand made chunks. What everyone wants is mysterious alien ruins and such, which requires actual storytelling.
 

[Sky]

My views on this haven't changed since 3 months ago.

Yep. I do agree with jak on the price, would be nice if it were cheaper, but that's capitalism for you. I want more games like this, and it's a couple months before the next couple games I want to play, so tada (with apologies to Mantic for likely using the money they'd have gotten for Dreadball 2).

And I hope it does well enough that once the moronic tide washes out they can continue to update it, or at least work on another, more awesome, version. Because we need more games like this, and ironically the unwashed Internet shoots themselves in the foot by continually shitting on every attempt because it doesn't meet their perfect fantasy of what a space exploration game should be.

[Lakov_Sanite]

The question is did this game need to be priced at $60 to be profitable or are they just trying to capitalize on hype? I bought minecraft when it was $5 and you know, that was a thing.  I think NMS could have become wildly successful at a lower price point and grown a huge following.  My instinct is telling me it's gonna burn a lot of goodwill at $60 and word of mouth will not be as forgiving as it could be for an indie space sim.

[Sky]

I don't disagree with that.

[jakonovski]

It's entirely possible that this will deliver an experience worth $60, but my guess is the pricing is purely opportunistic. If it's bad it's going to add the sinking of space sims to things accomplished before Star Citizen can do it.
  

[Jeff Kelly]

A team of 20 people has worked five years on that game and we're nevertheless debating whether or not $60 is an "opportunistic" cash grab. Instead of, you know, a perfectly adequate price for a game that took five years and 20 people to make and won't sell all that well. Don't confuse a very small overhyped group of psychotic fanboys waiting for the second coming of gaming Jesus with mass appeal.

Secondly none of the insane hype around the game was ever driven or encouraged by Hello games (nor Sony for that matter). What should they do. Tell everyone not to buy the game because a small group has forgone all rhyme and reason?

[jakonovski]

The developer's/publisher's ROI is entirely their problem and the pricing is their prerogative. I'm just guessing it was the hype that convinced them to try out the high price point.

[HaemishM]

I always figured it was the fact that the game was on consoles that set the $60 price point.

[Lakov_Sanite]

You can't compare time and manpower to market worth, they are two entirely separate things.  Rise of the tomb raider was in development what, four years? I am willing to bet the team on that was bigger than twenty people, should that game have been $80? $99?

I get they worked hard but people have an expectation content, playtime and depth at $60 that NMS is VERY likely not to deliver on.  They can charge whatever they want but I firmly believe they are going for the quick cash and the word of mouth once released is going to be a resounding "meh, wait till steam sale"

Will they make money? Hell yes they already have.  Will their reputation suffer as a developer? Of course it will.  It's their choice to make but I think it's short-sighted.

[WayAbvPar]

when people realize it is an indie game they were tricked into a full box price sale on, it will only be a matter of time until it's like 20 buxks

and you won't have to worry about missing out on the multiplayer aspect because the game is a stripped-down shell of their failure to make it multiplayer

Yeah I think I am waiting for a Steam discount.

[Rendakor]

when people realize it is an indie game they were tricked into a full box price sale on, it will only be a matter of time until it's like 20 buxks

and you won't have to worry about missing out on the multiplayer aspect because the game is a stripped-down shell of their failure to make it multiplayer

Yeah I think I am waiting for a Steam discount.

+1

When I first heard about NMS I was sort of surprised they wanted $60 for what sounded like a high end Minecraft mod.

[KallDrexx]

Plenty of really good (and some deep) games come out (even on consoles) at the $20 mark these days, and $60 is definitely reserved for AAA games due to the huge number of games out these days. 

We'll see how well (or not) it sells but I would honestly pay $15-20 for the game because everything I have seen makes me feel like the shiny will wear off relatively quick.  I have too much other stuff I can play in the meantime that is much more likely to give me more fun until then.

[KallDrexx]

Officially confirmed August 12th on pc

[KallDrexx]

Details of the day 1 patch and ideas of stuff they plan to add post-launch

[Falconeer]

From those patch notes:

Exploits – infinite warp cell exploit and rare goods trading exploit among other removed. People using these cheats were ruining the game for themselves, but people are weird and can’t stop themselves ¯\_(シ)_/¯

[Venkman]

That sounds like a pretty substantial shift in the user experience.

I like it.

Of course, I just (finally) started Fallout 4 and am stick in the build-my-house mode. But if you'll all report this is awesome later this week, I'll jump over. Fallout's not going anywhere.

[Sky]

From those patch notes:

Exploits – infinite warp cell exploit and rare goods trading exploit among other removed. People using these cheats were ruining the game for themselves, but people are weird and can’t stop themselves ¯\_(シ)_/¯

I love that so much. There was so much gnashing of teeth over this. Just...don't do it?

Then again, I guess if people had self-control, capitalism would collapse. So ok.

Find myself a little bummed over the date slip to the 12th, but only because I was actually looking forward to playing. I should go have a melt-down on social media or something. Or maybe just go back to listening to incidental dialogue in GTAV for a couple more days.

[schild]

http://www.no-mans-sky.com/2016/08/update-1-03/

[Sky]

St Bloodworth's Day comes earlier every year.

[KallDrexx]

http://www.no-mans-sky.com/2016/08/what-do-you-do-in-no-mans-sky/

[Ginaz]

Apparently they didn't send any review copies out to anyone.  I'd be a little worried because of that.  It doesn't always mean the game will suck (Doom 2016 did the same and it turned out to be great) but it increases the probability that it will, esp. for a game like this coming from a brand new indie company.  Unless it turns out to be awesome, it looks more like a Steam Christmas sale purchase rather than a day 1 purchase.

[Hawkbit]

So far so good. It's the "space sim" I wanted, but I'm not a hardcore Elite or Star Citizen type of person.

Not sure how anal we're being about spoilers so I'll err on the side of caution.


I can't tell if the feeling will last 20+ hours, but I'm in so far.

[Surlyboi]

[01101010]

Very on the fence about this game... Looks cool enough and does some things I really like, but hate to drop the cash on it only to fall short.

[apocrypha]

A fairly balanced sounding first impressions based on ~12 hours of play.

Feeling more and more like it's very unlikely I'm going to be interested in paying full price for this.

[MrHat]

I always thought we had a fairly easy rule regarding hype that was earned through decades of hype cycle bullshit ("The Molynreul"). I just don't understand how anyone can be disappointed by games anymore.

[KallDrexx]

I always thought we had a fairly easy rule regarding hype that was earned through decades of hype cycle bullshit ("The Molynreul"). I just don't understand how anyone can be disappointed by games anymore.

People don't like to follow advice they dole out.

[Yegolev]

My own advice is horseshit.  But I'm sure it applies to you.

[apocrypha]

I always thought we had a fairly easy rule regarding hype that was earned through decades of hype cycle bullshit ("The Molynreul"). I just don't understand how anyone can be disappointed by games anymore.

If that's aimed at me then I think I've been pretty consistently cautiously reserved about this particular game from day 1. Nothing's changed in that regard.

If it's a general comment aimed at any of the frothing fans currently shitting up places like Reddit with their gnashing of teeth and outrage that NMS apparently isn't robot Jesus, well, yeah. I dunno, people are easy marks for hype and some pretty screenshots. The space sim type game has been a bit of a barren wasteland for ages, which encourages unrealistic hopes.

I keep seeing people proclaiming 'no more preorders!' but still the orders get pre'd. Either people are optimistic or stupid. Take your pick.

[HaemishM]

I am optimistic that people are incredibly stupid. As for screenshots and videos building pre-orders, you do all realize that the entire ad industry is built on the premise of stimulating human beings' idiot centers to get them excited for products since the first ad was added by Addy McAdderson?

[01101010]

So who here owns this and what's your opinion so far? Price worthy, or save it till Xmas special? Of course, I realize I might be early given you lot play on PCs.

[Sky]

Waiting for the Steam version. Excited to putz around in a pretty sandbox for a while, but (like apoc) I've been pretty low on expectations for this.

I'm way more stoked for Mafia 3, but that series is one of my favorites. And though I have ardently vowed to not pre-order, I've pre-ordered NMS, Mafia 3 and Civ 6 (though with decent discounts for those two).

No big whup for NMS, I cancelled a $90 KS for Dreadball 2, so I came out ahead :p

[Pennilenko]

Picked up the ps4 version for my wife. We both think it is pretty awesome. We like exploration survival games though. I am also buying the steam version.