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Reply #910 on: June 19, 2016, 01:57:42 AM

I was able to get a crappier version of the no-weight junk mod, but the old one I used came with awesome sorting. I didn't realize how amazing that mod was. Dealing with inventory was just something I didn't want to get back into. I put up with it the first playthrough but it just gets progressively worse to the point I just want to cheat everything in and turn off loot.

There's several item sorting mods too, although I'm sure you know that :)

I'm sure the mod theft issue will resolve itself magically once Bethesda resumes selling mods.

Oh god, yeah. Every single time Bethesda have tried to bend modding to their own ends they've fucked it up beyond belief, going right back to the Skyrim horse armour. It's just the usual situation of the suits not having a fucking clue about anything.

Anyway, I fixed my problem. The Nexus Mod Manager was telling me that all my mods were up to date, despite not having launched the game since before Far Harbour hit. When I thought about that for 10 seconds I realised that NMM had to be lying so I checked them all manually. Over half of them were out of date. Once I fixed that and tinkered with TOOL, etc, the game worked again.

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Reply #911 on: June 19, 2016, 01:16:03 PM

That's a riot because nearly all my brand new mods that were updated this month and last, claim they are "out of date".  So weird.

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Reply #912 on: June 19, 2016, 01:31:31 PM

Bizarre. Sounds like NMM is a bit  swamp poop

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Reply #913 on: June 20, 2016, 04:23:00 AM

So, 15 mins into Far Harbour and I'm rolling my eyes so hard at the writing that I've lost all interest in playing it.


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Reply #914 on: June 20, 2016, 06:52:54 AM

I don't use NMM.
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Reply #915 on: June 21, 2016, 10:01:50 AM

The third gen synths look exactly like people down to the blood, organs, etc.   If you go the Institute route you can see them 3-d printing new ones every minute or so.
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Reply #916 on: June 21, 2016, 10:04:39 AM

gross

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Reply #917 on: June 21, 2016, 10:54:55 AM

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Reply #918 on: June 21, 2016, 12:36:51 PM

I'm being told I need to play survival mode.  Maaaaybe.

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Reply #919 on: June 21, 2016, 12:48:52 PM

Yes. 100%

And I never play games on hard mode.

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Reply #920 on: June 23, 2016, 09:13:35 AM

Looks like I can just turn Survival on and off at whim.  I find this weird and slightly disappointing.  I made a new character anyway, but soon enough I missed my "non-survival" character.  Probably because I just have one, she is level 20, and I have not made it to Diamond City yet.

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Reply #921 on: August 13, 2016, 04:57:49 PM

I'm way late to this party. I love the game so far. My quests are still catching up to the shit I've already done by stumbling across it. Typical open world problem, but that's ok here. Loving this a lot more than 3.

Quick questions:

1. Where's a definitive source of FO4 info? I've run across the wikia site. It's not terrible.
2. Mods. Nexus mods still the place to go? I saw that a few pages back, but I don't want to take a chance corrupting my install for whatever reason. I don't want a lot of mods yet. Still new to me. I just want something to compare weapon/armor stats when I'm looking at loot.
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Reply #922 on: August 13, 2016, 10:25:55 PM

1. Where's a definitive source of FO4 info? I've run across the wikia site. It's not terrible.
2. Mods. Nexus mods still the place to go? I saw that a few pages back, but I don't want to take a chance corrupting my install for whatever reason. I don't want a lot of mods yet. Still new to me. I just want something to compare weapon/armor stats when I'm looking at loot.

1. Depends what info tbh. The Wikia site is a decent overall general info option but when I was playing I ended up bookmarking a few different places for specific things. Bobbleheads guide, console commands, interactive map, big static map, power armour locations.

2. Yep, Nexus for sure. I'd also suggest using the Nexus Mod Manager and LOOT, the Load Order Optimisation Tool. Don't add loads of mods all at once, do them a couple at a time and check for problems before adding more, FO4 can be a bit finicky sometimes.

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Reply #923 on: August 14, 2016, 12:59:54 AM

I've got a couple of these saved:
Nukapedia
The Maphack Fallout 4 - you can switch between Far Harbor and Commonwealth, and 2 cities (Diamond City & Goodneighbor)
Fallout 4 Build Planner in case you want to do a vanilla or near vanilla game ( I don't think I could handle the slow leveling...ugh I've got exp gain cranked up from mods)
Settlement Map Supply Lines
Hope those help. I need to play around with some other mods that don't work with Nexus Mod Manager, especially the one that lets you complete achievements with mods.
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Reply #924 on: August 14, 2016, 04:50:43 PM

Thanks folks!
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Reply #925 on: August 16, 2016, 11:18:31 AM

There are gobs of stuff on YouTube.  Helpful when you start build your settlements.
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Reply #926 on: August 16, 2016, 01:03:19 PM

If you missed it the next dlc pack drops at the end of the month. Nukaworld.  Looks fun.

On my phone so google the trailer your own damn self.

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Reply #927 on: August 16, 2016, 10:20:14 PM


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Reply #928 on: August 30, 2016, 12:36:58 PM

Nuka World is out now.  This is the last DLC. 

So I guess after Christmas, this will finally be modded to the point that everyone is happy with their own version of it.

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Reply #929 on: August 30, 2016, 12:54:11 PM

Was watching my daughter play a bit on the PS4.  She plays on Easy mode and the Securotrons, Protectrons and Assault Bots took a hell of a lot more damage than I recall them being able to take. If you play on hard/ survival, best of luck!  why so serious?

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Reply #930 on: August 30, 2016, 01:39:18 PM

Everyone does a lot more damage in Survival, so it's not a direct comparison.

EDIT to mutter about when will the DLC pack go on sale.

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Reply #931 on: August 31, 2016, 03:36:12 PM

About 60 hours in and I will say I am so very glad I skipped this for a year. If not for the sum of all knowledge already being out there on some wiki, I'd have probably quit a few times for not being able to make progress because of either some poorly defined feature I needed or some stupid world geometry/AI behavior that became a blocker.

I mean sure, typical Bethesda game and all that, but still, you'd think after so many years of their games having the same exact problems they'd maybe, like, do something about it.
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Reply #932 on: September 01, 2016, 09:32:38 AM

Why when they sell so well?

Played around for 20-30 mins. Pretty fun I'm going to have a good time when I sit down and focus on this.

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Reply #933 on: September 01, 2016, 04:55:40 PM

Yea, I guess. It's like the more we gotta work through the bugs, the more it's "ours'" smiley

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Reply #934 on: September 01, 2016, 04:58:48 PM

Yea, I guess. It's like the more we gotta work through the bugs, the more it's "ours'" smiley

I spent four hours last night decorating. Decorating. Oh and I found a Bobblehead. I feel like I'm in SWG again. Hours just go by customizing in an uncooperative engine  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?
Oh yeah, I know that feeling. I picked up the beach settlement right after the DLC with new "settlement stuff" came out. Spent quite a bit of time erecting concrete bases, buses converted as living quarters (and carefully assigning settlers that worked at a shop to the bus next to it) and making it look like people settled, set up shops, some lights....

The scrap bug (scrapping any junk you drop lowers how much "stuff" the settlement thinks it has. So if you melt down all your loot at once spot, that settlement reads pretty much empty no matter how built up it is -- unless they've fixed that in the last month or two) is pretty nice for 'building up' an area, but going over the limits tends to trigger that stupid "Your settlement has no water, power, beds" issue when you leave.

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Reply #935 on: September 03, 2016, 06:01:51 AM

Heh yea, I haven't run into that yet, but mostly because I didn't realize until 70 hours in that you could consolidate all settlers into a few locations. I have 12 pretty tightly locked up and secure settlements that have spread my resources all over the place. Now I know I can move even the founders of the places to where I want them to be.

I also have every single supply line directly linked back to Sanctuary Hills. It gets really fun when 11 suppliers plus Carla all manage to sync up outside the hotel I set up for travelers. Thankfully they didn't go all the way on the realism with the excrement.

It's also nice having the extra armor in the wild. My suppliers are almost as bulked up as the Brotherhood.

Oh, is it just me, or did anyone else bulk up their original house rather than build a new one? I've got mine entirely encased in steel and concrete with annexes. Woulda been a huge time savings to just start fresh, but I couldn't let go the sentimental value. Stupid RPGs smiley

Finally, what triggers invasions? I read somewhere if Food + Water > Defenses then that does it. Is that true? If so, yea, maybe I can scale back on some of the turrets and mines in my main base...

Side note: another thing I learned: don't assume one can have a 10 minute complete session with a quick and simple mission. Clearing out Raiders turned into quick an epic at Dunwich Borers.
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Reply #936 on: September 06, 2016, 04:33:32 PM

Don't worry friends, once you finish Nukaworld you can raid your own settlements.  why so serious?
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Reply #937 on: September 06, 2016, 06:00:06 PM

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Reply #938 on: September 10, 2016, 11:59:08 AM

Sony decided to not let Bethesda enable player made mods into the game now. https://bethesda.net/#en/events/game/ps4-mod-update/2016/09/09/199

Sony is not letting them bring modding to PS4. I'm glad I got the game on Steam/PC.
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Reply #939 on: September 10, 2016, 01:24:35 PM

I'm so sad Sony has an issue with Elder Scrolls: Skydicks.
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Reply #940 on: September 10, 2016, 10:19:02 PM

Sony has made a few bad moves in the last week or two. No mods for Fallout 4, no 4k Blu Rays on the PS4 Pro or whatever they're calling it, and flat out saying they might charge to patch games to HDR/4k.

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Reply #941 on: September 13, 2016, 02:23:29 AM

It really fucks me off that *this* gets people riled up and bad press for Sony, when the fact that Skyrim and New Vegas are literally broken products (still!) on the Ps3 was passed over. Skyrim still has 80%+ ratings on metacritic and gamerankings for Skyrim, and yet the game is literally unplayable after a certain time period.

Bethesda have gotten away with releasing unbelievably shitty, badly coded products that don't work for years and everyone just praises them for it. Now I'm supposed to be outraged that Sony won't allow mods because there might be some security issues with their crap?
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Reply #942 on: September 13, 2016, 05:42:36 AM

They fixed the Skyrim thing eventually, didn't they? I know for sure New Vegas worked at least as well as it did on PC at launch, not that that's saying much.

Everyone praises Bethesda because even in their buggy state the games are damn fun, and no one else really releases games like that.

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Reply #943 on: September 13, 2016, 07:20:13 AM

I assume the biggest thing about this annoying PS4 owners is that Mods have been available on the XBone versions for months.

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Reply #944 on: September 13, 2016, 08:01:31 AM

I've basically never been a console gamer, so I need to ask: has there been an expectation that mod support would ever come to a console system for any game with strong mod support on PC?

I'm not asking as a PC elitist. It just seems like mod support makes sense on PC because of the open nature of the platform, whereas consoles have all these marketplace rules and people in the middle.
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