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Reply #420 on: March 14, 2014, 01:31:42 AM

They could just make flying slower than riding.

 why so serious?
CoH did that and we fucking loved it...

Blizzard can take away flying mounts if they put in superjump.

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Reply #421 on: March 14, 2014, 10:31:21 AM

I'll resub if they took away flying mounts. It might actually make the world design fun.
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Reply #422 on: March 14, 2014, 10:33:12 AM

I, too, would like to be forced to autorun through content repeatedly in order to get anywhere.

Or, you know, not.
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Reply #423 on: March 14, 2014, 11:50:28 AM

They took out flight points in the game?

What are you walking towards anyway? Doesn't the game put you into groups and into instances automatically anyway these days?
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Reply #424 on: March 14, 2014, 03:42:07 PM

I realize this is a stupid, often used, argument but if you don't like flying mounts, why not just play without them?

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Reply #425 on: March 14, 2014, 03:51:48 PM

It's not about whether you as a player like them or not, though; it's about what you can't do in your zone design (mostly in terms of narrative) because they break it.

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Reply #426 on: March 14, 2014, 03:52:15 PM

I realize this is a stupid, often used, argument but if you don't like flying mounts, why not just play without them?

It's not fun unless you know others are suffering under your boot, duh.

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Reply #427 on: March 14, 2014, 03:53:28 PM

They took out flight points in the game?

What are you walking towards anyway? Doesn't the game put you into groups and into instances automatically anyway these days?


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Reply #428 on: March 14, 2014, 03:59:59 PM

No, no no.  It's just that the designer who's responsible for all the ground mounts is pissed off that they're never used anymore outside of PVP.

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Reply #429 on: March 14, 2014, 09:08:35 PM

I realize this is a stupid, often used, argument but if you don't like flying mounts, why not just play without them?
Seeing people flying above me on griffons ruins my immersion as I travel the way God intended, on the back of a wooly mammoth which is also carrying a clockwork robot and a blue skinned alien from outer space.
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Reply #430 on: March 14, 2014, 09:38:24 PM

It's not about whether you as a player like them or not, though; it's about what you can't do in your zone design (mostly in terms of narrative) because they break it.
I wasn't aware anyone was still playing WoW for their gripping narrative.

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Reply #431 on: March 14, 2014, 11:40:58 PM

I'll resub if they took away flying mounts. It might actually make the world design fun.

Do you play on a pvp server?

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Reply #432 on: March 15, 2014, 12:06:34 AM

It's not about whether you as a player like them or not, though; it's about what you can't do in your zone design (mostly in terms of narrative) because they break it.
I wasn't aware anyone was still playing WoW for their gripping narrative.

Doesn't matter if we do or not, if they even sort of care about that (their story is shit, but I am convinced they think it's worth giving a shit about), that's going to be something they think about.

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Reply #433 on: March 15, 2014, 12:07:07 AM

It's not about whether you as a player like them or not, though; it's about what you can't do in your zone design (mostly in terms of narrative) because they break it.
I wasn't aware anyone was still playing WoW for their gripping narrative.

I wasn't really trying to give a player perspective - but travel spells, teleporting, etc., have been screwing up adventures since 1974.

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Reply #434 on: March 15, 2014, 12:37:31 AM

Not that I play WoW anymore anyway, but flying for the first time in Burning Crusade was one of the moments from my WoW-playing time burned into my memory.  Do those same zones in a different timeline, without flight.  LOL.  Ohhhhh, I see.

I mean, I know you couldn't fly in them while leveling in them the first time around... but still...
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Reply #435 on: March 15, 2014, 05:32:17 AM

same zones

Zones in WoD which are probably going to be fairly similar to the TBC zones:

Talador (/Terrokar) & Nagrand, sort of

...yep, that's about it. Zangermarsh is an ocean (and not actually a playable zone), Tanaan Jungle (/Hellfire Peninsula) is a tropical jungle, Shadowmoon Valley is a moonlit forest, the Blades Edge Mts don't exist, and so on. Netherstorm doesn't exist either but the Fields of Farahlon are going to be patch content, iirc.
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Reply #436 on: March 15, 2014, 05:42:44 AM

Yeah, Garrosh traveled back before the sundering of Draenor.  It only became Outland (the broken fragments) after the events of the Warcraft II expansion "Through the Dark Portal."  Orcs blew it up by creating too many portals. Stupid orcs.

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Reply #437 on: March 15, 2014, 11:11:00 AM

Doesn't matter if we do or not, if they even sort of care about that (their story is shit, but I am convinced they think it's worth giving a shit about), that's going to be something they think about.
Since I accept that their story is shit, I don't care that it is made shittier by me being able to fly. That is an entirely acceptable tradeoff. I don't really mind having to play through the leveling content once on foot, but when I hit max level let me (and all my alts) fly over all the things.

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Reply #438 on: March 16, 2014, 05:49:58 PM

That's not really the point, but okay?

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Reply #439 on: March 17, 2014, 06:07:22 PM

I realize this is a stupid, often used, argument but if you don't like flying mounts, why not just play without them?

Because world and game design vary greatly based on flying mounts.
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Reply #440 on: March 17, 2014, 06:19:38 PM

I realize this is a stupid, often used, argument but if you don't like flying mounts, why not just play without them?

Because world and game design vary greatly based on flying mounts.

pvp alone is a nightmare when you introduce another axis.

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Reply #441 on: March 18, 2014, 08:41:23 AM

If Blizzard is actually going to design an entire expansion around the idea of "no flying mounts anywhere", they'd better prepare themselves for an exodus of Cataclysm-ic proportions.

I personally don't think they've gotten that dumb again already. At least I hope not.

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Reply #442 on: March 18, 2014, 08:46:46 AM

I wonder if they are floating this kind of stuff out there because they are running into technical problems during development. Maybe some issue with garrisons or with the new PVP island or something. I get limiting flying until 100, but no flying just seems silly to me.
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Reply #443 on: March 18, 2014, 08:56:32 AM

I wonder if they are floating this kind of stuff out there because they are running into technical problems during development. Maybe some issue with garrisons or with the new PVP island or something. I get limiting flying until 100, but no flying just seems silly to me.

I don't care if they limit flying in garrisons. Frankly, why would I need to fly around them? I do care if can't program anymore. Did they fire the guy who wasn't an idiot about this stuff? Is Timmy the intern doing design docs now?

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Reply #444 on: March 18, 2014, 04:57:37 PM

I just want to drop a quick note thanking you all for continuing to care about and discuss WoW (here).  Every now and then I wonder how it's doing.  These threads free me from that wonder.

I sincerely thank you!   Heart
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Reply #445 on: March 21, 2014, 08:39:29 AM


"Those lights, combined with the polygamous Nazi mushrooms, will mess you up."

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Reply #446 on: March 27, 2014, 01:54:50 PM

http://games.on.net/2014/03/looting-housing-and-pushing-the-level-cap-we-visit-blizzard-to-check-out-warlords-of-draenor/
Some new stuff, some not so new. But....
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“If you’re a former WoW player, you’re going to get hit with some crazy nostalgia,” Afrasiabi explained, describing the setup behind Draenor and the basis for the Iron Horde’s mass invasion of Azeroth.

“it’ll be a prolonged event where we’re basically fighting off these Iron Horde war machines … and doing everything we can to stop it but nothing seems to work,” he outlines. “We’re trying to blow up the portal, we’re killing them, they don’t stop, it’s endless. So it becomes dire, the point where these guys are actually marching across and gaining ground through Azeroth, which gets us to launch day.”

“Instead of giant demons marching up to the gates and we were fending them off, now it’s going to be you and your army and what you see is a scene of just fifty thousand [orcs], just orcs everywhere.” It’s a very deliberate, narrative-focused setup, one that mirrors the Burning Crusade, and something Afrasiabi channels a lot during our talk.

“This becomes a Death Knight-like experience in Wrath, or even now, you go through a one and a half hour experience, it’s very custom tailored to the death knights,” he says. “We’re going to put you into this experience, where its 40 to 45 minutes and we really amp up the action, the suspense, the drama, we show you those guys, we really make you see the face of your enemy, we make you interact with them, we make you understand why these guys need to be stopped, why the Iron Horde needs to be stopped.”

I really hope they put a "Skip this shit" button in once you've done this once on your main. "Directed gameplay" is a synonym for "railroading" as can be amply demonstrated by the tedium of Cataclysm zones (fuck Uldum).

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Reply #447 on: March 27, 2014, 02:45:47 PM

I agree, up to the point when it comes to group play.  If everyone in the group has seen the content at least once, then allow it to be skipped.  Otherwise, play on.

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Reply #448 on: March 28, 2014, 09:06:47 AM

Rumor and scuttlebutt: We already know that flying won't be enabled for WoD for at least the first patch.  The word is now that such a restriction may be put in place for the entire expansion.

Discuss  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

That would pretty much prevent me from buying the expansion and may in fact cure me of WoW forever.

Flying is unquestionably my favourite thing in WoW.

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Reply #449 on: April 01, 2014, 06:57:35 AM


"Those lights, combined with the polygamous Nazi mushrooms, will mess you up."

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Reply #450 on: April 01, 2014, 08:16:04 AM

Good april fools joke!

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Reply #451 on: April 01, 2014, 09:13:54 AM

Best comment: "She looks like she's holding in a fart."

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Reply #452 on: April 01, 2014, 12:27:12 PM

I like the heroic double chin. About time we saw more real body models in fantasy art. awesome, for real
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Reply #453 on: April 01, 2014, 04:42:35 PM

Oh my god: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/12371977139#1
I sort of want to just quote the whole thing.



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Reply #454 on: April 01, 2014, 05:25:05 PM

Amazing.

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