Vaping: 2013-2014 Edition

[Signe]

Has anyone made their own yet?

[Furiously]

You know. A smart person would make a website for ejuice receipes. And sell/link to suppliers for cash.

[schild]

allthejuices.com
juicedb.com

[Furiously]

Like a DIY website.  Not a review site, a recipe site.

Also I got my Genesis clone and VAMU v2 battery today. I threw the belgianberry in it and it still isn't that great, but my god, the clouds of smoke.  (Edit, I just figured out I wanted the airhole next to the coil, that makes it taste a bit better.)

I think I still need to get everything adjusted because the berry is giving me huge throat hits.

[schild]

What atty clone did you get and how did you build it?

[Furiously]

This one. https://www.fasttech.com/p/1449602

I did a 3 coil wrap around the wick/mesh that came with it. Comes out to 1.6 Ohms. Figured that was good enough for a first try.

[schild]

Ah yea, the i-atty. At the low end people seem to like it. In a month or so a guy I run a group with is doing a group buy on a Russian mod called the By-Ka. Also, have a Chel's Microstick coming in a month, will probably pick up a Kayfun 2.1 or Doc Dave mini micro for that. I wish I'd never gotten to play with high end gear. Thankfully, everything resells at full retail or more on the secondary market since no modder can keep up with demand,

[Furiously]

Thankfully the low end stuff makes vapor too....

[schild]

Thankfully the low end stuff makes vapor too....

Absolutely agreed. Eventually Fasttech will get some of the 1:1 clones of the good stuff that's been floating around and I'll link to it. The i-atty isn't a complete knockoff of something amazing, so I have nothing to compare it against other than it's a "serviceable genesis atomizer."

[Engels]

This makes total sense to me.  In fact, I look for the same sort teas.  I really like Green Hojicha  and Wuyi Oolong teas.  The Hojicha is really woodsy and if they made an e-juice from it, I'd so be there.  Some of these teas are really expensive.  I buy from The Republic of Tea because you can usually get a small sample size for a fiver.  I've never had trouble with the tea being too old, either, like some other tea place whose name I forgot. 

Just got some toasted hojicha and wuyi oolong. I'm not too crazy about the Hojicha. Doesn't taste bad or anying, just not very exciting. The Oolong is ok too. A bit bitter if overbrewed.

I do wonder if it would be possible to boil down the tea to a near syrup and put that in nicotine juice and smoke that. Wonder how that would taste. Possibly like ass.

[schild]

This makes total sense to me.  In fact, I look for the same sort teas.  I really like Green Hojicha  and Wuyi Oolong teas.  The Hojicha is really woodsy and if they made an e-juice from it, I'd so be there.  Some of these teas are really expensive.  I buy from The Republic of Tea because you can usually get a small sample size for a fiver.  I've never had trouble with the tea being too old, either, like some other tea place whose name I forgot. 

Just got some toasted hojicha and wuyi oolong. I'm not too crazy about the Hojicha. Doesn't taste bad or anying, just not very exciting. The Oolong is ok too. A bit bitter if overbrewed.

I do wonder if it would be possible to boil down the tea to a near syrup and put that in nicotine juice and smoke that. Wonder how that would taste. Possibly like ass.

http://shop.vaperev.com/dolce-nero-te.html
http://www.litecigusa.net/The_BluePrint_Page_6_p/bluprint-page6.htm
http://elevated-vaping.myshopify.com/products/miss-white

I can only speak to the second one, Page 6, which is pretty good if a little sweet.

[Signe]

I'm thinking of trying the Dolce Nero Te, which is the first one.  If I do, I'll let you know how it is.  When one or some of you start really getting into making your own, I'll want to know EVERYTHING.  I know it'll happen and they'll probably be really good because some of you guys are so obsessive about things.  I mean, look at Sky.  He paints those little men and makes sure you can even see their teeny weeny eyeballs!  I'm also thinking of trying a liquorice one.  When I was in France some years ago, I bought a pack of this amazing tasting tobacco that was heavily flavoured with liquorice.  I know it's not uncommon as a flavouring in tobacco, but you usually can't really taste it much.  This French stuff was incredible.  I'm very torn about trying some of the sweet ones.  I haven't even tried the peppermint I bought yet.  I do know I hate menthol cigs.  My dad smoked them and even as a kid, I never stole his.  Everyone else was fair game.

[schild]

There's a brand of cigarettes I got in Italy that I was never able to find again. I kept the box, somewhere in my storage unit. Anyway, yea, some cigarettes are more than amazing.

I would start making my own juice if I had access to a clean room. I might have a desk at my next place for vape shit (moving in 2 weeks). If I do, I MIGHT start doing small batches of very specific bizarre flavors. Don't know yet. I desperately want a biscuit w/ jam flavor.

[Signe]

A biscuit with jam!  That's so fucking adorable!  Srsly.  Apricot?

When I was very young, like 9 or something, my uncle used to come visit from Italy.  One time he brought cartons of cigarettes flavoured with whisky or something.  I stole two packs and hid in the woods and smoked until I threw up.  I did that for about a week until I was so sick my parents took me to the doctor.  Two days later I was back in the woods.  Finally got the hang of it, too.  That uncle bought me my first Fendi bag.  And my last.  They're obscenely beyond stupid expensive.  I could probably buy a car for what that stupid bag cost.  He used to stuff Genoa salami and a wheel of sharp provolone into his luggage, too, for my grandmother and she would make Baccalà for him.  He was a weird uncle and made her house smell like dried up fish for weeks.  He wore shiny Italian silk suits and when we went out to dinner he always forgot his wallet. 

[schild]

Your uncle was a thief.

[Signe]

Vaping, yes, I do this now.  A lot.  Today I mixed my dry Turkish tobacco flavour with a bit of red hot cinnamon.  It was delish.  Try it.

Actually, that particular uncle was a chicken thief.  No lie.

[schild]

I HAVE FOUND TIME TO MYSELF. I have rewrapped 4 atties (before moving onto custom usernames today - FUCKING FINALLY ARRRRRGH MY LIFE).

Anyway, I have a Taifun GT sitting on top of a Mirandus rocking a mesh wrap at .32AWG with a strip of 2.5mm Ekowool on top. This sits on a Mirandus mixed SS/Brass with an 18490 battery running at about 1.0Ω.

My Aqua sits on the Mirandus' slightly uglier half where the main tube is brass and top and bottom are SS. That is running 2 coils of .28AWG with 2 strips of Ekowool in each channel rocking about .56Ω.

My Kayfun sits on top of a Nemesis Kalafan running at about 1.2Ω.

My Dudenberg is on a Deus Mods Prism. Both of these things are very good and the Dudenberg is the highest quality genesis I have found for under $150.

I have a Diver by Atmistique coming in tomorrow for my Salt & Pepper Tank.

How did  get all these toys? I uh, yea, I bought a thing that I ended up trading for another thing and traded that into more things. Also I got sent some prototypes by a few modders. Have I spent any money? Not really, I'm up $700. Vaping is a weird culture.

[OcellotJenkins]

I've been vaping for almost two and a half years at this point and have the original f13 thread to thank for getting started.  It gets better and better over time as the tech improves.  I've gone from having to constantly fiddle with the equipment to having a virtually maintenance free setup.

Currently I'm rocking a ZMAX mod with dual coil 2.5ohm cartomizers in pyrex tanks and couldn't be happier.  I make my own juice and go through a 30ml bottle every week with the device set to 10 watts of power.  I put in a new carto every 2 to 4 days.  For me, this is inexpensive and hassle free.

Over the years I spent a great deal of money trying lots of different juices.  Most of them I would tire of very quickly.  I discovered last year that making my own juice was the way to go.  Not only does it save a ridiculous amount of money, but also I was able to hone in on the perfect flavor that I never tire off.  It's also very easy to make using a free iPhone mixing app.

My daily vape is a homemade Strawberry Mango Lemonade 50/50 PG/VG at 18mg nic.  I keep a few other flavors around for some variety (blueberry lemonade, coffee with irish cream, chocolate tobacco) but always quickly switch back to my main flavor.

ProVari mod is on the way, super excited!

If this shit gets banned for whatever reason heads are gonna roll.

[rattran]

It turns out CO₂ extracted hash oil mixes into PG pretty easily. For those of you in medical/recreational mj states, of course.

[Furiously]

Got a vial of Cell Block 4. It tastes like it's from the moldy shower of a cell block.

[schild]

Something happened to the recent batches of CB4. I had the same experience with a new bottle, it tastes NOTHING like the bottles I got a few months back.

[Signe]

Got an Atmos for dry herbs.  I've been fiddling with different screens and the spring and everything but, so far, either the combustion happens too quickly or I don't get any draw at all.  I ordered a glass daisy screen to see if that works next.  I'm testing it with herbal smoking blends before I put anything too pricey in it.  It's allegedly really good for oils, wax and concentrates but that stuff is WAY out of my price range.  And I don't want total oblivion and comatocity.  That wasn't a word but it is now.  I made it.

This is TOO fun.  If I had money I'd invest in vaping but I'm pretty sure the government will make it un-fun soon enough. 

[rattran]

The gf gave up on trying to use her atmos(+?/rx?/something) for greenery, and using oil/wax/etc was way too strong, which is why I figured out how to make the oil into juice.

[Pennilenko]

Because of this thread I no longer smoke. I ended up with a KangerTech Mini Protank 2, and a 1000 mAh Ego T Upgrade battery. I am pretty happy with it. It goes friendly on the juice usage and I don't have to charge it all that often. My favorite liquid so far is kind of a cinnamon and menthol sort of flavor that is amazingly refreshing in a holidays/Christmas sort of way.

[Signe]

The gf gave up on trying to use her atmos(+?/rx?/something) for greenery, and using oil/wax/etc was way too strong, which is why I figured out how to make the oil into juice.

Send me your recipe, please. 

I enjoy mixing a bit of cinnamon with a good strong tobacco flavour.  Yum.

[Furiously]

So anyone find anything amazing lately? I noticed the lower nicotine level Choo Choo Crunch tastes worse than the higher nicotine level stuff... Which seems strange.

[Signe]

I just discovered Absinthe flavoured which I love to bits.  I can't seem to get the Atmos Raw to work properly with dry herbs.  I think I need to keep trying different screens until I find the right one.  Glass doesn't work at all so far.  I plan to mess with it again soon.  I prefer rolling my own dry herbs but it's mostly for my sister who sometimes smokes pedicularis.  Dunno why.  Does nothing for me.  Supposed to be psychoactive.  She usually uses a wooden pipe.  I hate wooden pipes.  I know my family sounds weird so shuddup.

[schild]

So anyone find anything amazing lately? I noticed the lower nicotine level Choo Choo Crunch tastes worse than the higher nicotine level stuff... Which seems strange.

Nicotine adds a pepper/bitterness to juice. Also, all these juices are made by hand and require a few days to settle, so if a juicemaker botches up, he may never even notice.

I just discovered Absinthe flavoured which I love to bits.

I'm making an absinthe juice with someone, but it's the most mildest hint of absinthe.

[Engels]

What source do you have for the absynth juice Signe? Also, what 'dry herbs' are we talking about. Is this a new code the kids are using these days?

[Signe]

I picked up the plain Absinthe e-juice cheap from Bootleg Vapors.  I wanted to see if the flavour is something that would be a good taste for vaping.  It is.  I haven't tried to make my that one myself yet, but I'm interested.  I fiddled with liquorice and elderberry (DON'T USE THE FLOWERS!) but it just wasn't right.  Would love to know what Eric is mixing up in what is probably a scary torture e-juice dungeon laboratory.  He should keep us up to date.  The dry herbs I was talking about for my sister is that pedicularis stuff.  My dry herbs are the sort the kids are talking about but usually use a different name.  I have a recipe to turn that into a juice and will experiment after the holiday and if/when I get enough money.  Making my own cinnamon, absinthe, kush and pedicularis juices are on my list of things to try.  My sister is great at extraction and I'm good with flavours.  We should be able to come up with yummy stuff.  I won't be shy about posting my recipes here if they're good.  (and legal)  And I'd LOVE to see what others are coming up with, too.  I've become very into all this for some strange reason.  It's addicting.  Like cigarettes.

I want to vape opium but I won't.  :)  Probably.

[rattran]

I think star anise would give you closer to a classic absinthe flavor. And the gf has the Atmos RX with the dry herb adapter. It doesn't burn very cleanly at best, packing it loosely helped, but it gunks up fast. Your sister should probably just get a glass bowl or bat.

[Signe]

She'll probably keep using her wooden pipe.  From what I understand the Atmos Raw works best with concentrates and possibly waxes.  All these are possible to experiment with at some point.  I see no reason the pedicularis can't be extracted and turned into something that will burn a bit steadier.  The dry combustion is so quick that I'm pretty sure it's wasteful.

[schild]

mmmm The first versions of my juice will be done in a week or two. The first one is a morning/midday easy to vape thing that will come in 6mg and 12mg varieties and the other is a complex mess of bullshit that sounds horrible on paper but tastes amazing and will be 5mg/10mg. Kind of an evening juice sort of thing. That's the one with star anise in it.

Anyway, the sort of standard for anise flavors is Radiator Pluid (available here: http://www.vapingwatch.com/eliquid/pluid-30-ml-10mg.html - and in stock, which is rare). He uses shitty quality product, but the end result is relatively impressive. Don't use it in a plastic tank. Anise and citrus flavors will crack/destroy/render useless any sort of plastic / makrolon tank.

My juice is about 500x better than Radiator Pluid and we got a line on the closest thing to pharmaceutical grade 100mg nic we could. Pretty excited to have other people try this stuff. Signe, I'll grab an address to get some shipped to you when we finish up with it.

[MahrinSkel]

Wizard Labs?  Or Nude Nicotine?  Those seem to be the most reliable as far as quality goes for the 10%, so much so that a lot of others are just re-selling their stuff, repackaged and marked up.  Or someone else?  I did find a source for pure nicotine in small amounts, but there's barely any savings over buying 10% from one of those two (and pure nic is dangerous just to breathe the fumes from, a single drop on your skin can be an OD).

--Dave

EDIT: I'm considering a SmokTech SID, any opinions?  Any other decent VV models with wattage regulation for around $50?

[schild]

I'd have to ask where the guy ended up ordering from. I'm not doing the actual brewing, decided to go with someone who has done exceptionally well for himself on the east coast (hundreds and hundreds of bottles a week good with nearly no spread outside of the eastern seaboard).