Diablo 3: Reaper of Souls

[Malakili]

March 25, 2014 release date.

[Yegolev]

[dusematic]

Blizzard is done.  They lost their identity and are no longer an interesting company.  The only relevance they have left is owing to their past glories and their financial clout based on their past glories. 

[Simond]

Blizzard is done.  They lost their identity and are no longer an interesting company.  The only relevance they have left is owing to their past glories and their financial clout based on their past glories. 

Please source your quotes. Polygon? Kotaku? We need to know these things.

[luckton]

Word on the street is that Loot 2.0 is here.  Guess its time for another go.

[apocrypha]

Goes live tomorrow I think. Apparently the patch notes will be published in 2 parts because they're so long. 55 pages. Heh.

Also 30% off Reaper of Souls preorder deal on greenman gaming. Makes it £24 in the UK.

[Rokal]

Patch is live. Drops feel a lot less like sifting through trash now, most of what you pick up seems to have at least a few useful attributes for the character that found them.

The gameplay hasn't aged too well though. In particular, movement feels extremely slow after playing PoE, Marvel Heroes, and even Torchlight 2. I ended up switching out one of my Barb abilities for sprint and even with the 40% rune movement still feels glacial.

Edit: With that said, all of the changes in the patch feel pretty great. Better skill diversity, more usable items, more interesting items due to the way they separate primary and secondary stats, better options for difficulty, etc.

I'm sad that Adventure mode is locked behind the expansion, as story-less maps with more randomization would bring the game to a pretty reasonable quality level.

[schild]

In particular, movement feels extremely slow after playing PoE, Marvel Heroes, and even Torchlight 2.

I'm not bashing the other games or defending Diablo 3, but that's a load of shit.

[Ingmar]

New loot is awesome. Uninstalling all my other ARPGs again.

[apocrypha]

If your patcher is going really slowly try disabling peer-to-peer.

EU servers down for another 4 hours (estimated) so I might roll a char on the US ones in a bit :)

[luckton]

Maybe we should rez this forum out of the graveyard then?   

[Lucas]

Looking at the general reaction and having only played the "1.0" version for a short amount of time, I'm really looking forward to it: maintenance here in Europe will end at 3pm CET.

[Ironwood]

Oo, is this today ?

I have been hearing good things about the patch, I will try it.

Expansion can still eat a bag of dicks tho.

[Fabricated]

In particular, movement feels extremely slow after playing PoE, Marvel Heroes, and even Torchlight 2.

I'm not bashing the other games or defending Diablo 3, but that's a load of shit.

D3 feels positively sluggish in terms of movement in compared to Path of Exile, Torchlight 2, Van Helsing, etc. The camera strata being like 2 feet off the ground makes it even worse.

[MrHat]

Guys.

New patch feels great.  Completely lost track of time last night trying to figure out new builds, play with new loot (got a legendary but it was shit).

New menus are great too.

This is definitely great for Diablo 3 1.1

[Paelos]

Well hell now I have to play it again. 

[MrHat]

Well hell now I have to play it again. 

Feels completely revamped.

I'm sure in 2 weeks everyone will be running the same 3 specs with the same gear, but right now, totally worth a spin.

[Rokal]

In particular, movement feels extremely slow after playing PoE, Marvel Heroes, and even Torchlight 2.

I'm not bashing the other games or defending Diablo 3, but that's a load of shit.

I'm not sure how you could come to any other conclusion. Movement is extremely slow in D3 compared to the other ARPGS that have come out since it launched.

I got used to it after playing for an hour or two last night, but there's no question that the speed will be jarring if you've played any other modern ARPG recently.

[schild]

I've leveled every class to 60 in Diablo 3. Before it I was playing PoE. After it I played through Torchlight 2 and Van Helsing. Van Helsing felt the worst of the 4. PoE next because characters feel so disconnected from the terrain and their world had such shitty collision. Torchlight 2 just didn't even feel remotely natural. The stride and speed at which characters move in Diablo 3 match their weight in the world. It doesn't seem "sluggish" in the environment.

If we're talking about the actual numerical runspeed to get to point A from point B, ugh, who cares. Do we have the precise measurements for every map in every game to gauge that against some sort of baseline?

tl;dr: It's not all about run speed.

[Ingmar]

3 legendaries in 3 hours for me, all pretty good.

Also rares dropping out of containers like crazy.

[Ironwood]

I've leveled every class to 60 in Diablo 3. Before it I was playing PoE. After it I played through Torchlight 2 and Van Helsing. Van Helsing felt the worst of the 4. PoE next because characters feel so disconnected from the terrain and their world had such shitty collision. Torchlight 2 just didn't even feel remotely natural. The stride and speed at which characters move in Diablo 3 match their weight in the world. It doesn't seem "sluggish" in the environment.

If we're talking about the actual numerical runspeed to get to point A from point B, ugh, who cares. Do we have the precise measurements for every map in every game to gauge that against some sort of baseline?

tl;dr: It's not all about run speed.

Mate, that's all fine, but I've just patched and I'm playing and it's sloooow.  No idea why, but it is.

[Ironwood]

Also, I'm not sure what to make of this.  It's changed rather significantly.  I'm going to start a new Char and play through with the wife to see what's what.  Thus far, the presentation is certainly better but I dunno yet.

[MrHat]

I've leveled every class to 60 in Diablo 3. Before it I was playing PoE. After it I played through Torchlight 2 and Van Helsing. Van Helsing felt the worst of the 4. PoE next because characters feel so disconnected from the terrain and their world had such shitty collision. Torchlight 2 just didn't even feel remotely natural. The stride and speed at which characters move in Diablo 3 match their weight in the world. It doesn't seem "sluggish" in the environment.

If we're talking about the actual numerical runspeed to get to point A from point B, ugh, who cares. Do we have the precise measurements for every map in every game to gauge that against some sort of baseline?

tl;dr: It's not all about run speed.

Actually this is the main reason I jumped back to Wizard, teleport seems so awesome now.
Mate, that's all fine, but I've just patched and I'm playing and it's sloooow.  No idea why, but it is.

[Ingmar]

I think the run speed aspect of several powers got nerfed? I haven't noticed anything on the ol' witch doctor but I never had any bonus run speed or anything on him anyway. Maybe they felt like they needed to make room for the run speed bonus from those orb things and from paragon levels.

[Ironwood]

Warrior leap is now much, much more useful.  You can jump over obstacles and across corridors.  Rather nice.

Ach, it's all ok.  It plays better now and loot is better, no doubt.  Still jerky in a multiplayer (which is shocking) and I still don't like all these skills, of which you pick 'a couple'.

We'll see.

Wife got a legendary crafting material tho, so there's that.  Bitch.

[Sjofn]

Aww, you said "ach." 

[Soulflame]

Can "lassie" be far behind?  Or maybe "wee bairn".  I always thought that was adorable.

Oh.  Right.  D3.  I'll have to patch and see what's up.

[Tannhauser]

Got two legendaries in one hour.  Fair amount of yellows.  Did a bit of crafting, seems to make sense.  I like that I can auto-craft more than one at a time.  Don't like only one potion now.  Just finished a timed dungeon.  Just barely made it and got phat lewts.  Actually had to use my defensive skills and watch my health in several battles.

First impression is good jorb (finally) Blizzard.

[Pennilenko]

Trying to relearn my wizard has been a pain in the butt. Also when you put the difficulty on torment and then adjust the slider to five, it is much harder than old inferno MP5.

[Paelos]

It's amazing how drop rates have suddenly improved after the AH, because that wasn't at all the problem according to the devs. The AH had nothing to do with drop rates.

[Ingmar]

When making item choices, be aware that if a stat has a little colored dot next to it, it means it isn't taken into account in the damage/toughness/healing comparisons.

[Reg]

I don't get it. Why would a stat not get taken into account?

[Ironwood]

because they're usually special stats that won't be able to be changed.  Or something.

It's all quite confusing.

[apocrypha]

The comparison tooltip shows Damage, Toughness & Healing. Things like +movement speed or increased pickup radius can't be easily quantified into a simple number for comparison purposes, but they can still be something you're very interested in for your build.

[Soulflame]

I started a new wizard and played around a bit.  The game seems more fun.