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Reply #35 on: August 14, 2013, 10:27:55 AM

I agree with Merusk.  I don't understand the Cata underwater hate...clearly they've not played underwater in other games  why so serious?

Vash'jir didn't suck simply because it was underwater. It was terrible in the amount of gating and inability to go off the rails even a little bit.  The first time I did it, it was great and I had a lot of fun but every subsequent alt went to hyjal because the pace is much quicker and there are a couple spots where you alternate the routine if only a little.


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Reply #36 on: August 14, 2013, 10:29:40 AM

That's really a complaint about Cata as an expansion, IMO.

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Reply #37 on: August 14, 2013, 10:32:58 AM

No doubt but Vash'jir was the worst example of it.  The mechanics of the underwater zone were great but unfortunately you can't divorce it from the rest so the zone was still terrible.

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Reply #38 on: August 14, 2013, 12:35:44 PM

No doubt but Vash'jir was the worst example of it. 
Counterpoint: Uldum.
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Reply #39 on: August 14, 2013, 12:36:51 PM


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Reply #40 on: August 14, 2013, 12:42:25 PM

Ahaha, noice. That'd certainly be one way to obfuscate matters.

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Reply #41 on: August 14, 2013, 12:53:23 PM

I loved the underwater zone in WoW, I think people hated it because the very first area you start in is just way too packed with mobs, you can't move without getting aggro.  This combined with what was a harsh transition from one shotting wotlk mobs to suddenly having to be careful again was a bad first impression and tainted people's view of the whole thing.

The underwater mount also should have been something far cooler than "seahorse".
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Reply #42 on: August 14, 2013, 01:22:32 PM

Seahorse for alliance, eel for horde.

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Reply #43 on: August 14, 2013, 03:43:36 PM

I'm a Druid, I don't need your shitty water mount!


The Underwater zone was way too long and repetitive. Half a dozen "oh no, the Naga found our hiding cave... AGAIN".

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Reply #44 on: August 14, 2013, 08:44:04 PM

I agree about the length. It dragged on. I think the mechanics were fine and I thought it looked pretty good. It had a cool feel; it gave the feeling that there was a lot more to Azeroth than what's on land. I found it interesting. I could be pulling this out of nowhere, but I swear I remember reading a dev quote saying they probably wouldn't do another underwater zone again.
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Reply #45 on: August 15, 2013, 12:51:32 AM


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Reply #46 on: August 15, 2013, 09:32:52 PM

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Reply #47 on: August 16, 2013, 12:50:43 PM

"The Dark Below" was registered in the last day or so in Eire by the copyright firm who does all Blizzard's European law work.
So that's interesting.

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Reply #48 on: September 19, 2013, 03:34:39 PM


Everyone should play a Fey Corgi at least once in their role playing career.

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Reply #49 on: September 20, 2013, 08:37:05 PM

Any 3d zone sucks nuts. It's almost impossible to see both above and below your character.  The game is designed to be played with the camera above and behind your character, which means you can't see above and z-axis movement is awkward as hell.

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Reply #50 on: September 21, 2013, 09:13:02 AM

Counterpoint: Vash'jr was the best zone in Cataclysm by a country mile.

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Reply #51 on: September 21, 2013, 09:28:59 AM

Counterpoint: Vash'jr was the best zone in Cataclysm by a country mile.

Counter-Counterpoint:  No it wasn't.

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Reply #52 on: September 21, 2013, 09:48:01 AM

Hyjal was painfully generic where it should have been grandious and epic, Deepholm was okay until you realised you were essentially repeating the same quests three times over (once for the Earthen Ring, one for the Eathen, and once for the Earthmother), Twilight Highlands was a disjointed rush-job where decent ideas were piled up next to kill ten rats in a slap-dash manner and Uldum? Uldum was decent for the first third of the zone and then threw away all the interesting bits to do a tedious fifth-rate pastiche of Indiana Jones where your character was forced into the role of "bumbling, cowardly side-kick" while an NPC figured out the problems.

So by a process of elimination Vash'jr was the best zone.

E: It helps that Vash'jr was gorgeous.
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Reply #53 on: September 21, 2013, 12:41:55 PM

I liked Twilight Highlands more than Vash'jr; it was a good build-up into Bastion of Twilight. Mount Hyjal was also more fun.

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Reply #54 on: September 21, 2013, 12:56:48 PM

Vash COULD have been great if it would two-three zones instead of one.  Such a slog...

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Reply #55 on: September 21, 2013, 09:43:49 PM

I don't get all the Vash'jr hate. I thought it was by far the best zone in Cataclysm. I didn't have any trouble with 3D movement or mobs. The only problem was the length. It was so different than anything else on the main continents that I thought it was great.
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Reply #56 on: September 22, 2013, 01:56:16 AM

I really liked playing as that Naga warrior lady.  Maybe someday the next playable races will be Naga for Horde and Murlocs for Alliance.

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Reply #57 on: September 22, 2013, 06:06:51 PM

I also liked Vash'jr. It basically *was* broken into 3 zones, so I'm not sure why people are making that particular criticism.

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Reply #58 on: September 23, 2013, 12:44:39 PM

I really liked playing as that Naga warrior lady.  Maybe someday the next playable races will be Naga for Horde and Murlocs for Alliance.

I hated this section more than any other part of questing in Cata, even the shitty Harrison Jones stuff in Uldum. Underwater zone + vehicle quests = go fuck yourself.
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Reply #59 on: September 23, 2013, 05:00:29 PM

I also liked Vash'jr. It basically *was* broken into 3 zones, so I'm not sure why people are making that particular criticism.

It felt like a long, long, long, long, long single zone, though. At least to me. You kept thinking you were done but wait no, time to kill a zillion more naga or elementals or whatever. It was the Belsavis of WoW for me.

That was my issue with all the Cataclysm zones, though. They were all way too fucking long.

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Reply #60 on: October 15, 2013, 01:23:43 PM

Presented without comment: http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1363274-Solid-Spoiler-A-Spoiler-Source-About-Blizzcon-2013-WOW-X5-%28History-Game-%29
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11.8 update

The key of patch 6.0 has two, one is G, another is D.

11.7 update

ilvl compression for X5 is due to the Big Event and Canon in X5.

11.6 update

We may have one D, but G perhaps not one, maybe 5?

11.5 update

One of those Gs, MUST be Garad.

11.4 update

One of those Gs, MAY be "Garona".

11.3 update

One of the last known those Gs, MIGHT be "Garithos".

11.2 update

The Red Names becomes Yellow, Green Names drop gears. The end of time is what its starts, Medivh shows to give you Dailies.

11.1 update

DW returns, but which one?

10.31 update

A classic Maincity becomes Raid Dungeon.

"10.31" update

Your known history, may not be "the original" one.

'10.31' update

Due to s/he is not exist in "the original" history. S/he killed him/her in that time, to do the right thing.

10.30 update

When the theory is in mess, Anduin Wrynn regrets his choice, while Wrathion faces his glory.

10.29 update

A Maincity-class Dungeon finally becomes a true Maincity.

10.28 update

The Dragon Soul's power is not vanished yet. Instead, they cannot touch that power, the power someone have long coveted.

10.27 update

Eternal Dragons? The Dragon Era has already ended. Our story is about mortals that extraordinary and/or unwilling to be ordinary.

10.26 update

Illidan: None of my business!

10.25 update

Old Gods: None of my business!

10.24 update

Burning Legion: Why it's not as it says, my dear screenwriter?

10.23 update

Someone: この手に入れた力で、その間違いは絶対やらせねぇ!

10.22 update

Subject of this X is: Father and Son.

10.21 update

Even there's no blood relationship, the fetters are more strongly than there have.

10.20 update

Even there have blood relationship, the incompatible destined a bad romance.

10.19 update

They, the young. What's their choice when they get a overwhelming power one day?

10.18 update

Among those fetters and bad romances, the world is shattering into pieces by "the young" suddenly get power.

10.17 update

Velen: Anybody here?

10.16 update

Turalyon and Alleria returns.

10.15 update

Hail To The King, Baby!!!

10.14 update

The forth G, is Gul'dan.

10.13 update

Someone: W Saurfang is in trouble? Oh, come on my little brother!

10.13 update

Known the ONLY D is 14417226136556E86F1372212034
(Leak ---- this puzzle is calculated out and it is
1 44 1 72 2 61 3 65 5 6E 8 6F 13 72 21 20 34
D r a e n o r Space
The useless number is just a Fibonacci Sequence.
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10.12 update

The HIDDEN REAL D is at 97C100E9852494810E19852549799A10057D1019753C5410054C984B94B8494948A49E4999579D798

10.8 update

Everything has started. Let's wait and see.

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A hint: Quotation Marks
And hint: No directly leak and all guessing in the original topic (1k+ replies now)

Source: bbs.ngacn.cc/read.php?tid=6592378 (Chinese WOW Forum)

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Reply #61 on: October 15, 2013, 01:29:56 PM

The person that did the translating doesn't speak English either. I feel like I'm drunk reading that. I have no idea what it says.
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Reply #62 on: October 15, 2013, 03:01:53 PM

Just wait for blizzcon and don't hurt your brain.

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Reply #63 on: October 16, 2013, 09:08:02 AM

It says the end times are near and plots involving Time Travel are always Awesome.

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Reply #64 on: November 05, 2013, 04:37:07 AM

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10.13 update

Known the ONLY D is 14417226136556E86F1372212034
(Leak ---- this puzzle is calculated out and it is
1 44 1 72 2 61 3 65 5 6E 8 6F 13 72 21 20 34
D r a e n o r Space
The useless number is just a Fibonacci Sequence.


« Last Edit: November 05, 2013, 04:43:04 AM by Simond »

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Reply #65 on: November 05, 2013, 08:57:50 AM

I saw the Warlords news in a couple of places yesterday. We'll see if it's real, or just trolling by Blizzard. I'm waiting for Blizzcon.

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Reply #66 on: November 06, 2013, 03:00:22 PM

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Reply #67 on: November 06, 2013, 03:13:52 PM

Corgi.  Goodness.

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Reply #68 on: November 08, 2013, 01:59:46 PM

Wife is at home and just e-mailed me.  New xpac is called "Warlords of Draenor" new models, new world, cap at 100.

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Reply #69 on: November 08, 2013, 02:02:42 PM

MMO Champion has pictures, I assume they're caps from the live stream.

Since Draenor is Outland, I wonder how it's going to be a new world. Time Travel?

One of the other highlights reads "Build and Upgrade your Garrison". Player Housing? The equivalent of your Tillers farm in the new xpack?

Also, updated character models. They have a before and after pic up of a Dwarf and an Orc.

Edit: I forgot, another highlight says you can "Boost to 90 and play immediately." That's great news, if you didn't already level all of your toons to 90 o.O

« Last Edit: November 08, 2013, 02:04:24 PM by Hutch »

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