Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.

[Abagadro]

There are rumblings that they are gong to go full on with the Inhumans on the show and are setting it up with all the alien stuff which would broaden it out.  I mean, they reference Hellcow FFS.

[Threash]

That because dc doesnt give a fuck what they do on tv. I've said from the start that shield has been hamstrung by the quality of characters they can put on the small screen and boy it shows. 

You are not going to see any of the main movie heroes of villains from DC in Arrow or Flash either.

[HaemishM]

Yeah, the Flash is getting the same ratings in the key demos as SHIELD. It's a good thing this show is about more than TV ratings because if it were anything but a Marvel vehicle, it would probably not have lasted the first full season. I'm sure there's a point where the show's ratings will be too bad to take but I don't expect that will be before Age of Ultron.

Agent Bobbi Morse is Mockingbird from the comics and she kicked ASS. Making her a regular is only a good thing though it's not like the show needed more badass women with Ming Na on board. All that strange writing leading to the revelation of the Inhuman city of Attila would be awesome. Would that make Kyle McClachlan into Black Bolt or Maximus the Mad?

[jgsugden]

... Would that make Kyle McClachlan into Black Bolt or Maximus the Mad?

Given what we've seen... and heard him say...

[Bunk]

Agent Bobbi Morse is Mockingbird from the comics and she kicked ASS. Making her a regular is only a good thing though it's not like the show needed more badass women with Ming Na on board.

Ok, now I feel dumb, I knew that name was familiar. Should have recognized the batons. Also explains the quip about her hair color being wrong. Its probably because I actually hated that character in the West Coast Avenger days, because they basically treated her like a tag-a-long character. Who among the group shall save the day? One of the two guys that can lift a bus, or the chick with the sticks? I think they wanted her to be the Black Widow of the WCA, but it just never clicked. Which then comes full circle in an obscure way for me - they had Palicki mimic Widow's post fight scene pose from Iron Man 2? I think it was.

I may like this Mockingbird.

[HaemishM]

... Would that make Kyle McClachlan into Black Bolt or Maximus the Mad?

Given what we've seen... and heard him say...

Yeah, brain fart. If it's the Inhumans, he's Maximus the Mad.

[jgsugden]

Maximus makes sense from a practical reason, too - his abilities would be easy to put on screen. 

They were moving pretty hard towards an Inhumans movie a few years ago, then all discussion of it stopped.  It would certainly make sense for it to drop off the radar if they decided that telling their story made more sense in MAoS - especially as a potential down the road spin off.  I see a pretty obvious progression, if true, that does look like it has been foreshadowed.

[Bunk]

Someone on Reddit suggested perhaps that McLaughlin was Mr. Hyde, based on the temper issues, and on the origin story for Mr. Hyde's illegitimate daughter: http://marvel.wikia.com/Daisy_Johnson_(Earth-616)

Actually seems quite plausible.

[HaemishM]

Other than the whole ability to absorb alien DNA without a problem thing.

[Evildrider]

Maximus makes sense from a practical reason, too - his abilities would be easy to put on screen. 

They were moving pretty hard towards an Inhumans movie a few years ago, then all discussion of it stopped.  It would certainly make sense for it to drop off the radar if they decided that telling their story made more sense in MAoS - especially as a potential down the road spin off.  I see a pretty obvious progression, if true, that does look like it has been foreshadowed.

Well except Vin Diesel teasing him being in Inhumans not too long ago.

[jgsugden]

Maximus makes sense from a practical reason, too - his abilities would be easy to put on screen. 

They were moving pretty hard towards an Inhumans movie a few years ago, then all discussion of it stopped.  It would certainly make sense for it to drop off the radar if they decided that telling their story made more sense in MAoS - especially as a potential down the road spin off.  I see a pretty obvious progression, if true, that does look like it has been foreshadowed.

Well except Vin Diesel teasing him being in Inhumans not too long ago.

There is that.... I'd forgotten he said that... but then again, they could roll up to Inhumans as a movie in MAoS.

As they have not yet cast Dr. Strange, for which we have a release date out there, and they were apparently talking to Vin about a specific role that has not been announced, there may be something else going on.  I'm wondering if we could get an Inhumans storyline up in MAoS that leads into the Strucker part of Avengers II with a post credits scene actually showing us the Inhumans for the first time at the end of the film.  It could be a fit - seeing Black Bolt recover the Terrigen Crystals that were used to make the 'Miracle' twins.  I wonder if there is anything in that post credit Cap II scene where we might have missed a crystal or mist (other than the crystal in the staff which is likely Gauntlet fodder).

[Threash]

Isn't Joaquin Phoenix Strange, or was that just a rumor?

[Lakov_Sanite]

If inhumans will ever be a movie it won't be introduced in shield.  Comic books love crossover shit but they will never, ever introduce something on the tv show first to then go to the big screen.

[Cadaverine]

Isn't Joaquin Phoenix Strange, or was that just a rumor?

Rumor.  Though, I think he could look the part.

[Evildrider]

Isn't Joaquin Phoenix Strange, or was that just a rumor?

Rumor.  Though, I think he could look the part.

He is completely out.  Multi movie deal is what scared him off most likely.   There are rumblings Colin Ferrel is up for the part and am weird suggestion that Andy Serkis could be Doctor Strange already.

[jgsugden]

If inhumans will ever be a movie it won't be introduced in shield.  Comic books love crossover shit but they will never, ever introduce something on the tv show first to then go to the big screen.

I think it depends upon what you mean by introduced.  I could see them taking a piece from TV and moving it into an ensemble movie - and Adrianne Palicki (Mockingbird) confirmed she discussed the potential of Mockingbird to be in movies before she agreed to the role.  The character, after all, is the wife (on and off) of Hawkeye in the comics and a long time Avenger (mostly West Coast).

As mentioned above, I could also see them weaving foundation for an Inhumans movie throughout a few seasons of SHIELD and then making an Inhumans movie that can stand on its own, but also plays well with what we see on SHIELD (like Cap II). 

[Ironwood]

Serkis is Klaw though ?

[Fordel]

Now Hyrda has also forgotten they have guns.


I WANT to enjoy this show but it is doing it's damnedest to make me hate it.

[Evildrider]

Because hand to hand is more fun to watch then gunfights?  It's also harder to have a bunch of bad asses if they just get shot. 

[Threash]

May had a gun and knife guy disarmed her instantly.

[Fordel]

Good Ward was boring as shit.

Evil Ward was interesting.

CRAZY  Ward is fucking amazing.

[kaid]

Good Ward was boring as shit.

Evil Ward was interesting.

CRAZY  Ward is fucking amazing.

Yes good guy ward was horrible. American psycho ward is pretty damn excellent I hope they keep him crazy he is a much better character like this.

[Abagadro]

Agent Cooper is also killing it.  Love him as an addition.

[Tannhauser]

Good episode.  I'm always impressed by their location shooting, this time in Puerto Rico.  Nice visuals along with a nice story.

 

[Fordel]

He ain't dead till I see a body.


The last few episodes have been very strong, I wonder if it's a script or direction issue or what. Some of the earlier ones are just so... meh.

[jgsugden]

A lot of the early quality issues were similar to last year's early issues: they were products of spending so much time introducing characters and dealing with expository setups. They're setting up stories and characters that should pay off later in the season. I think we'll learn a lot next week... that a lot of us have been speculating TV for a year now. 

[Fordel]

It's not even that, it's stuff like my complaint about them forgetting they have guns. The last couple episodes they clearly remembered they had guns and used them when appropriate... and when they didn't use them there were legitimate reasons for not using them.

Where as earlier, they had multiple episodes where they didn't just shoot the problem because uhh... we need a fight scene now. The difference between inventing problems and simply having problems due to their current circumstance. The last few episodes have just been much tighter and thought out.

[jgsugden]

[Evildrider]

[jgsugden]

They're willing to put characters on TV that will transition into movies.  Before she accepted Mockingbird, Adrianne Palicki confirmed that there was potential for the character to transition into movies.  She didn't want to take on a TV only Marvel role - she wanted a shot at the big screen.  She agreed to the role because it has a relationship to a character that is in the movies (Hawkeye).

[Lakov_Sanite]

Having the option to as a character into the movies in the future is not that same as reserving a character for the movies.

In one corner you have a D-list hero for a property already established in the movies, who may never be brought up or if they are then not likely in a significant capacity.
In the other you have a new property which has been announced will be made into a movie and one of the more central characters to that property. 

If they lay the groundwork for inhumans in this show I will be very surprised considering when the movie is made it will have to be made presuming no one has ever seen the tv show.  The movie is still years away which means if shield really is starting now then the movie will have a few years of MAoS canon to reckon with not to mention they would be playing their inhumans card maybe too early to help the movie. 

[Velorath]

If the movies ever get to a point where they need to use Mockingbird in anything other than a cameo, or put Chloe Bennet in them, that's probably just around the time that audiences will be pretty much done with them and Disney will be looking at a reboot. They've struggled to find screen time for Hawkeye and ways to develop the character and Jeremy Renner is an Academy Award nominated actor. Mockingbird is essentially a less impressive Black Widow. I hope Adrianne Palicki isn't putting all her hopes into getting a major role in an Avengers movie because right now the closest she'll probably come was being in Legion with Paul Bettany.

[Evildrider]

If the movies ever get to a point where they need to use Mockingbird in anything other than a cameo, or put Chloe Bennet in them, that's probably just around the time that audiences will be pretty much done with them and Disney will be looking at a reboot. They've struggled to find screen time for Hawkeye and ways to develop the character and Jeremy Renner is an Academy Award nominated actor. Mockingbird is essentially a less impressive Black Widow. I hope Adrianne Palicki isn't putting all her hopes into getting a major role in an Avengers movie because right now the closest she'll probably come was being in Legion with Paul Bettany.

Unless they spin off West Coast Avengers, Mockingbird won't be anything more than a named SHIELD agent in the background of a Marvel movie.  She'll be lucky if she gets a line or two.  Chloe Bennet is not going to be Crystal, I don't even see how someone would think that's a possibility.  She's not even a minor Inhuman, especially if they eventually tie her to Quicksilver in the movies.

[jgsugden]

A lot of ifs in there, folks...

Crystal could easily be a minor Inhumans character depending upon the stories you tell.  Inhumans have about a dozen major characters with varying degrees of importance depending upon the tale you tell. 

Mockingbird could be a significant movie character - I would not be surprised to see them put her on screen with Hawkeye in Cap III and then spin the two of them off into a Netflix series. 

[Lakov_Sanite]

Inhumans, ANY inhumans are very unlikely to be introduced in the tv show.