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Topic: 1.0.8 - More bullshit, no itemization fixes (Read 48449 times)
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Ragnoros
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Yeah, can I just say 'holy fuck' to that gear ? On all the chars ?
Store bought ?
Thanks. Although, I have only really put any effort into my Wizard recently. Most of the WD gear is from months/patches ago. Bought the IK set on my barb for the lulz and achievement (spent about a mil). Half of my monk is new shiny and half is old crap. DH is basically a mule. As to finding stuff. As Sky said, bracers and shoulders are crafted, only took me 5-10 tries each to get good ones. I have been trying to craft gloves but after 70-80 goes I still can't get any damage affixes, and have run out of demonic essences. I found both the witching hours I'm using. Crafted the hellfire ring with my own keys and effort. I actually have found two rings that would be better than what I have equipped on my Wiz, but the hellfire gives xp and the zini gives the 130 int bonus, so they collect dust. Other than that, yeah I think I got most of it of the GAH. Although having gone to the Paelos school of bid sniping the whole shebang only cost me between 5-10 mil (about 300-500k a piece, plus a few over the mil mark). I do wholeheartedly agree that buying gear is less fun than finding gear. However, it's not like diablo 2 was completely different. In D2 I found a Lightning Skiller, traded it for 5 Ists, then traded the Ists for Necro gear. In D3 I find a Dex Mempo, sell it for 3 mil, and use the gold to buy Int Rings.
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Xanthippe
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One thing I have found is that the gear on my characters that are leveling up is quite good. I tweaked them out some, but I didn't spend a huge amount of money on it. Time, yes. Also, I think not nearly as much gear is available on the AH these days as most people playing are probably playing 60s paragon levels.
Jewelry seems to be lacking. It just doesn't drop much.
I suppose it's still not worthwhile to craft anything other than the level 60 archon shoulders gloves and bracers? Maybe boots?
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Malakili
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One thing I have found is that the gear on my characters that are leveling up is quite good. I tweaked them out some, but I didn't spend a huge amount of money on it. Time, yes. Also, I think not nearly as much gear is available on the AH these days as most people playing are probably playing 60s paragon levels.
Jewelry seems to be lacking. It just doesn't drop much.
I suppose it's still not worthwhile to craft anything other than the level 60 archon shoulders gloves and bracers? Maybe boots?
Only the new recipes (archon gloves/shoulders of INT/DEX/ETC, Razorspikes of same, and Amulets) are worth crafting. I guess given that you mentioned having trouble finding jewelry amulets might be something you want to go for.
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KallDrexx
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The only part of the game you couldn't play while ignoring the AH at release was Inferno; if I could do it with a gimped pet-spec witch doctor, anyone could do it. You didn't get drops your level because you were outleveling the content. I'm not actually sure why they did it that way, it seems to have caused a lot of confusion. I hit level 60 in like Act 1 or 2 of Hell. If they had the XP curve tuned so it roughly matched the item drops the cognitive dissonance people have over "oh no, I am level 40 but my rares are all level 30" would vanish.
It has nothing to do with being confused. If I so easily out leveled the content then they balanced it fucking terribly. I never farmed any areas or repeated content, and yet somehow I was too high a level to never get gear my level and never feel like any gear I got was wroth a shit. That's terrible design
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Ironwood
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Pet Spec is Gimped ?
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Xanthippe
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Pet Spec is Gimped ? I don't think so. My pets are far more buff than they were when I played last July.
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Ironwood
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Merely a joke. Much like everything else, they didn't learn the lessons of Diablo 2 in the first iteration and it took them a while to get pets right.
My WD seems to be just fine with pets right now and needs little else.
I do remember the days of having tons of skeletons on the screen and still having to run away. Which was why Revive was always better.
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Ingmar
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Pet spec is fine now, yeah. It was pretty well gimped until 1.06 or 1.07, I forget exactly which patch fixed it.
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Ironwood
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The loot is dropping more (as in rares and I got another legendary today) but it's still so depressing how bad the stuff is.
My first attempt at crafting the bracers and shoulders got me 'better' equipment, but I know they could be better still.
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Paelos
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My bracers took me about 50 crafts.
The chest was about 35, the gloves were damn near 100.
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Ironwood
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I take it you had some very specific wishes on it ?
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Paelos
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I take it you had some very specific wishes on it ?
Sort of, here's a link. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Paelos-1244/hero/5141137The gloves still aren't perfect, but they have a combo of good crit damage and crit chance on them. The bracers are awesome and I got lucky there. The chest got a rare roll of 320+ main stat with 2 sockets and good vit/AR. I'll probably still try to get the perfect set of gloves with Attack Speed, crit chance, crit damage, but I also want to replace my shoulders at some point. Also, the rings need work.
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Ironwood
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My wife (also an accountant) is now balls deep into the AH meta-game. She's been buying and selling all day and racked up a couple of million.
Jesus Fucking Christ, there's a limit, right ? I can contact a lawyer now, yeah ?
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Tannhauser
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Picked this back up recently. Still fun gameplay with great graphics. Loot is still lousy. I broke down and bought an item from the AH. It's like playing nickel slots. It's fun but there's not much payout.
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Xanthippe
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I am now on my last character to 60 - a barbarian. Holy cow, whatever they took away from demon hunters, they gave to barbarians, it seems. What great fun to smash everything.
I've also been playing in public games instead of solo. Better loot, harder monsters, more fun, faster leveling.
For mindless smashing, this is great fun.
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Xanthippe
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What sort of awesome gear do I need to get keys for hellfire ring?
I haven't yet finished inferno on any of my characters. All but one are in inferno level but only one is to Diablo, and I haven't been able to kill her yet.
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Ragnoros
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Depends. Are you asking about the mechanics of the hellfire ring event/quest/thing. Or literally, "What gear do I need to survive?"
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Ingmar
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The keys just drop of off special dudes who show up in Inferno so generally speaking if you're able to survive you should be able to handle them.
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Paelos
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If you can survive an elite pack at the MP level you're on, you can handle the keymasters. I do recommend not to bother with it unless you can do MP5 or higher, because that's when you at least have a 50/50 or greater shot at a key dropping. It's 10% per MP level that you get a drop.
Now, that doesn't mean you can handle the bosses at that MP level just because you can get keys. I've found that the combo of Siegebreaker and Zoltan Kulle is hell on my barb.
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« Last Edit: June 11, 2013, 11:01:56 AM by Paelos »
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schild
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Does anyone on f13 do runs for the ring? I don't have any interest in dedicated time to it but I'd love to piggyback someone else.
(I have 4 classes at level 60 with good gear)
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Paelos
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I don't really anymore, but Malakili plays a lot more than I do.
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Ingmar
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I wouldn't mind going on one with Mr. Pet WD myself. I have a couple keys I think.
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schild
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oh man i smell a group brewing
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Xanthippe
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I'm working on getting my final 60 but I'd love to (if I can keep up, that is). I probably can't quite yet, I haven't futzed at all with MP yet.
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Pennilenko
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I would be willing to work on the ring with an F13 group.
Name is Longshot#1489
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MrHat
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Out of the frying pan, into the fire.
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I would be willing to work on the ring with an F13 group.
Name is Longshot#1489
I'm so weak: /reinstalling
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I reinstalled last week but haven't actually played yet. Also don't have anything close to a 60. But if you see my puttering around online feel free to join and shower me with goodies
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Ragnoros
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Paelos
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Once we learned the xpac was being moved back, I didn't really expect it until the end of the year. That doesn't mean it won't happen then.
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Hawkbit
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Damn that 4p coop looks fun. As many problems as this game has, I'll likely buy this to play with my kid.
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Xanthippe
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I'm confused as to how it works. How does the screen actually move? Can one can only run to what one can see on the screen? Or does it work like the computer version, where you see where you go but not where everyone else is?
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Hawkbit
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The screen pulls out (camera raises) as players become separated. What they didn't show was how high the camera will raise. Once the camera hits max height, then who knows what will happen. Most other games force the players to come together a bit until they can move forward in a common direction.
It will likely play best if someone acts as the leader and everyone else follows.
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Tannhauser
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Looked to me like the game teleported characters back onto the screen a couple of times.
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01101010
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You call it an accident. I call it justice.
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The screen pulls out (camera raises) as players become separated. What they didn't show was how high the camera will raise. Once the camera hits max height, then who knows what will happen. Most other games force the players to come together a bit until they can move forward in a common direction.
It will likely play best if someone acts as the leader and everyone else follows.
Sounds similar to the lego games on the 360.
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