Season 7 Day 5: Nuffle's Alive!

[IainC]

It's mostly a big deal because rerolls are much less reliable with a big guy.

2 dice without block has a 1/9 chance of ending badly for you (1/36 chance for each of two skulls, two both downs, skull/both down or both down/skull). With block you only have the two skulls to worry about. Given that you're likely to want your big guy making a block a turn where possible as he likely has things like Mighty Blow, Claw etc you're likely to end up with a big-guy induced turnover each half on average as opposed to one very two matches with Block.

[Modern Angel]

All I'm seeing is "claw is awesome and I'm approving your game right now" Iain. :D

[HaemishM]

I would NEVER take claw over block. EVER. I'm not the type to get into the minutae of the numbers but there's one number I can point to. Many of my games this season as skaven have had me at 60% or higher block success rate because a lot of the guys I block with have block (or wrestle), including my big Rat Ogre. I much prefer big bruiser not to be on his ass because once he's down, he's as likely to stay down as not.

Also, guard over jump up on the werewolf. Guard is just so useful.

[avaia]

I'm also not that opposed to throwing a -2 die block against an opponent without block, if I have block.  And chances are if your big dude goes down, he's getting a stomping.  DO YOU HEAR ME GRUNTLE?

[Ruvaldt]

And chances are if your big dude goes down, he's getting a stomping.

Especially if he's a mino.  They have AV8 and are more vulnerable to injuries than most big guys.  If I knock a mino down I'll foul it nearly every time.  In fact, that's what I did to Gruntle!

Edit: Also, yeah, Sjofn was right.  Sidestep was the optimal skill choice on that werewolf, I think.  I always forget about side step, but it's unbelievably useful on pieces like that.  Guard is a close second though.

[Ingmar]

I would be even more likely to take block on my big guy if I was running a team with only one reroll, by the way. 

[Modern Angel]

Rerolls are for the weak

[Teleku]

I love it when people attempt to foul my treeman.  I remember somebody even taking the time to line up 6 players around him before the attempt.  I had a good laugh.

[Ingmar]

A +5 on the armor break roll turns the treeman into a halfling, so that was a pretty good chance at doing something.

[Sjofn]

Edit: Also, yeah, Sjofn was right.  Sidestep was the optimal skill choice on that werewolf, I think.  I always forget about side step, but it's unbelievably useful on pieces like that.  Guard is a close second though.

Seriously, it is THE BEST, especially for frenzy characters, because you can surf to your heart's content without worry and if they eventually have guard (and all the Norse frenzy pieces get that) it makes it harder for them to shove you away to uselessness. I'd especially want it on that wolf, since he's blodgy and hard as hell to knock down now.

Of course, my wolves do not live nearly so long.  

[Gruntle]

I'm also not that opposed to throwing a -2 die block against an opponent without block, if I have block.  And chances are if your big dude goes down, he's getting a stomping.  DO YOU HEAR ME GRUNTLE?

Mr. Big (my Mino) has block -- it's the wrestle-stomp combo that I fear and hate.

[Megrim]

As long as you take tackle on your next skill up with him, he's good.

Yeah, it's a bit of a long road to level 6 for him.  Though at his particular rate of killing players, I may not have to wait that long.  

Thank you all for helping me not loose my mind over blowing a Double roll :)

Honestly, I'd start by questioning why you have a Minotaur on a CD team in the first place.

=p

[Modern Angel]

Minotaurs own

[avaia]

Bleating tie the Brewzers 1-1.  I had a chef steal all 3 my rerolls the first half, and a wizard kill an unskilled goat and a failed dodge turn into a smashed ankle for another.  A badly hurt on each side were the only blocking casualties.

The failed dodge came as I tried to pop the ball out early in the second half in the orc half.  Wizard took care of my defense after that, and the ork team tied it on turn 16.

A failed sure hands pickup on turn 7 also prevented me from sneaking in a second late first half score.   

[z22]

avaia was a true sportsman. His Bleaters had "the 12th man" bug and he parked the extra turkey in the corner for the drive.

This game was my SUPERBOWL! I suffered no deaths and no injuries! I feel as though I should retire!

Nothing better than a Wizard zapping a (backup) guy to death. I think my Wizard would have the most XP on my team!

[schpain]

Go Gort!!  Put the boot in on behalf of all us new Ork teams who are getting fisted week in week out by Nuffle!

[Llyse]

I'm on holiday from now until Saturday the 6th of April.

So if the week can't be extended until that weekend then I'll forfeit my match against Drogg :(

you're gonna wish you had forfeited when i'm through with!

It's on!

I'm GMT +9 and am available Saturday night the 6th of April and all day Sunday to smash your lizard tails till they regenerate no more! 

[Celer]

Next weekend is wide open, our clocks will change so think we'll be on GMT+1 by then. Bearing that in mind, when do you want to play?

I'm unable to sleep tonight, so if you're available in the next few hours, hit me up on Steam!  But I'd say lets plan for Saturday.  I can do 7-9am GMT-7 or almost any time after 1pm my time (if you think BB is an awesome way to spend your Saturday night).  Same times work for Sunday.

[swiftblade]

Next weekend is wide open, our clocks will change so think we'll be on GMT+1 by then. Bearing that in mind, when do you want to play?

I'm unable to sleep tonight, so if you're available in the next few hours, hit me up on Steam!  But I'd say lets plan for Saturday.  I can do 7-9am GMT-7 or almost any time after 1pm my time (if you think BB is an awesome way to spend your Saturday night).  Same times work for Sunday.

No idea when this was posted, so no idea when now is. I'm free all saturday and BB is a perfectly acceptable way to spend saturday night :P name a time and hopefully we'll get the timezones right! (its 8pm as I post this).

[Ingmar]

Posts are timestamped!

[swiftblade]

Posts are timestamped!

Sure, yours says "Today at 01:10:25 pm". So, not very helpful in terms of timezones :P

[Ingmar]

You can change those settings in your profile, under "Look and Layout Preferences".

[swiftblade]

You can change those settings in your profile, under "Look and Layout Preferences".

So they are. Now changed. Many thanks.

[ezrast]

PM'd Fildrigar but I'll leave it here too: I can play late tonight, or any time before 9pm Central any other day. Let me know your schedule and we'll figure something out.

[lamaros]

PM'd Fildrigar but I'll leave it here too: I can play late tonight, or any time before 9pm Central any other day. Let me know your schedule and we'll figure something out.

Emailing him might work best - I think he posted it in the last match day thread.

[HaemishM]

Man, fuck this game.

Zellar Dwellarz 0 - The First Ladies 3

From turn 1, NOTHING went my way. Rat Ogre out on a foul first fucking turn, never even got a chance to block, nagging injury. Dead high level gutter runner, multiple severe nagging injuries. I'm not even sure how many guys I'll have on the pitch for the next game. I think the points are set up so that I'll likely make the playoffs no matter what, I'm just not sure how much of my team will be there. Chaos Dwarfs are meant to fuck Skaven in the ass, and a-fucking they did go. It ended on a TD. My last turn was 1 guy left standing holding the ball and trying to get out of range of a blitz, failing to and losing the ball to a blitz.

I want to apologize to Ruvaldt for being a raging dickhole. I have no excuse other than the giant cock Nuffle was ramming up my ass all again.

[Modern Angel]

You should be nicer to your opponents.

[Ruvaldt]

Haemish has every reason to complain.  I had 56% success on blocks and he had a whopping 25%.  No joke.  Also, he sustained three deaths.  Granted, one was a 0 SPP linerat, but still.

I leveled a blocker, my minotaur and Eleanor Roosevelt, my ball carrying centaur.  Sadly, Morg won mvp, and it turned out that I didn't even need him.  I should've gone with my gut and got a halfling chef instead.

Also, Haemish has nothing to apologize about.  I'd be pissed too if that happened to me.  In fact, I have been.  Don't even worry about it; I look forward to getting wrecked by you next time with your built up Nuffle-karma.

Tale of the tape:

[Sjofn]

Two things I wish I could do over again in this match, one was probably should've rerolled a both down/skull to something else to put a second dude against his ball runner, and the other was not open my turn all cocky-like with my shitty no-block werewolf. He had a two-die block, so naturally it came up both down/both down, making it so I couldn't get anyone on his ball runner to tie him up just long enough to prevent his second TD.

Fuck this season, man. Fuck it.

At least I finally scored. Stupid level 2 lineman got the MVP and I think he's going up, I am tempted to just fire his stupid ass.

[Ingmar]

Validated Ruvaldt-Haemish and Sjofn-Jasper. 6 matches to go, including everyone in my division besides me (and Satael.) Chop chop!

[Sjofn]

Lineman must've heard me bitching, and has not in fact gone up. Bought a fourth reroll because good lord do I need it. ><

Also I thought of a third thing, I would've double checked to make sure my kicking lineman wasn't mysteriously put on the fucking line, thus making it so my berserker had to kick off. And he naturally kicked off right into his GR's hands. Who was about three steps from the line.

[eldaec]

Watched the Ruvaldt v Haemish replay - HOLY FUCK.

Regarding the CD Minotaur double debate from a page back, I'd take Block, then Pro, then Tentacles, then Tackle, then Dodge. Hypothetically I'd consider Claw (if I had already taken Guard) after that.

[lamaros]

Man, fuck this game.

Zellar Dwellarz 0 - The First Ladies 3

From turn 1, NOTHING went my way. Rat Ogre out on a foul first fucking turn, never even got a chance to block, nagging injury. Dead high level gutter runner, multiple severe nagging injuries. I'm not even sure how many guys I'll have on the pitch for the next game. I think the points are set up so that I'll likely make the playoffs no matter what, I'm just not sure how much of my team will be there. Chaos Dwarfs are meant to fuck Skaven in the ass, and a-fucking they did go. It ended on a TD. My last turn was 1 guy left standing holding the ball and trying to get out of range of a blitz, failing to and losing the ball to a blitz.

I want to apologize to Ruvaldt for being a raging dickhole. I have no excuse other than the giant cock Nuffle was ramming up my ass all again.

Yeah, and then Your luck faded and half your side dies in one game...

I warned you! (Poor grammar and all).

[Ruvaldt]

My ball carrying centaur, Eleanor Roosevelt, is now STR5.  I also got a blocker with claw.  I prefer guard and mighty blow first, but you can't control when you get doubles.  Pretty fruitful level-ups.

[Teleku]