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Reply #210 on: December 18, 2015, 02:28:18 PM

To make that clearer, this means you want to buy BB2 by/before the first team (Norse) is released in February so you get all 4 teams for free when they come out.

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Reply #211 on: December 18, 2015, 04:51:12 PM

It's actually somewhat tempting now. Let's see if it affects the sale price for Steam's Winter Sale next week.

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Reply #212 on: December 27, 2015, 08:22:43 AM

Ugh.  I am SO HESITANT about giving these chucklefucks money after all they've done.  Can somebody confirm or deny that the last upate (that Flac was talking about) has at least fixed some of the most insulting omissions and fuck-ups?  And then, beyond that, that it feels like blood bowl and is actually sort of fun to play with?

If so, I'll probably grab it while its on winter sale to take advantage of the winter sale and upcoming team releases.  But I still wish their was an option for "pay extra for the game, and 3 random Cyanide employees instantly get kicked in the balls by a robot ball busting machine."

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Reply #213 on: December 27, 2015, 09:44:30 AM

I... I think I can confirm that much.

The game IS Blood Bowl. The grid is now there, so are player name plates and even toggleable skill plates (that weren't in BB1). You can even reconnect after a crash, and the control scheme while confusing at first (and you can still opt for the bb1 one from options) is good enough. Visuals are good, and after much whining I can't come up with many glaring bugs from the top of my head now. Single Player is bullshit of course, but multiplayer matchmaking (in the official League) is an OK addition if you are into that. My favourite new thing is the spectator/replay tool. It allows you to watch replays of games in your league even if no one uploads anything, and most importantly allows people to spectate live matches in true real time. That is awesome.

I am sure there are still lots of issues, but they have addressed pretty much all that weren't my complains so now EXCEPT FOR THE MISSING LEAGUE MANAGEMENT/SEEDING tools, I would say the game is good to go. Especially considering you get 10 races plus the next 4 coming for free. 14 total is not a bad deal.

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Reply #214 on: December 27, 2015, 12:21:56 PM

No not yet.

In order to get the grid you must activate either names or the skill display. The names are poorly displayed and clutter up the screen. The skill thing is even worse. It includes default skills for the position. The skill icons are shown in a box that obscures what is behind it.

DICE ROLL RESULTS ARE PUT BEHIND THIS BOX.

So yeah. You can't see the results of a block die, to pick a die, without moving your camera around to dodge the skill box.

The update while a step was incredibly Cyanide of them. I want this game very badly but they haven't done anywhere near enough good work to have earned anything but "oh this is on max sale better pick it up" treatment.

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Reply #215 on: December 28, 2015, 03:20:16 AM

Your criticisms are more than valid. I don't have a problem with it as you learn very quickly to keep a finger on control to switch between no names, names, and skills constanty depending on what you need to see. And the skill plates in particular are very handy to me. Never had the necessity to player hunt to see what they are about ever again since the update. But as I said, your criticism is fair. Also, no dice log yet.

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Reply #216 on: December 28, 2015, 12:45:43 PM

It should be pretty damning that I threw $300 at a weird kickstarter grim dark anime neckbeard board game (on top of several other iffy decisions a 30 something professional bachelor with lots of disposable income makes), but remain very hesitant about handing this company $25 for a game I've spent HUNDREDS of hours playing in the past.   Ohhhhh, I see.

I'll wait till I'm good and drunk (when I stumble home from new years eve sounds good) then probably grab this.  All hail wood elf cheerleaders in HD!   awesome, for real

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Reply #217 on: December 28, 2015, 02:16:30 PM

Oh right, there's only human cheerleaders.  Ohhhhh, I see.

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Reply #218 on: December 28, 2015, 02:21:51 PM

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Reply #219 on: January 17, 2016, 07:56:44 AM

http://forum.bloodbowl-game.com/viewtopic.php?f=92&t=7200

They are going to run a BB tournament with prizes. They will open a special ladder where your teams can only play 20 games (sounds like they aren't even programming it so you can't play more though lol). I also have no clue what they are doing to prevent cheating/fraud on said ladder? The mysteries of Cyanide.

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Official World Cup Ladder

The World Cup Ladder can be found in the "Official World Cup Ladder" league in game.

The league is divided into three seasons of one month each.

- The first season starts 11 February 2016 and finishes 11 March 2016.
- The second season starts 11 March 2016 and finishes 11 April 2016.
- The third season starts 11 April 2016 and finishes 11 May 2016.

At the end of each season, the best five coaches on the leaderboard will qualify for the World Cup Play Off.
A coach can have as many teams as he wants in the ladder, but each team must play at least five matches and a maximum of 20 matches.

So from the ladders they will select 15 coaches. Which leaves another 49 slots to complete the 64-man World Cup Play Off field.

This is where it gets a little less oh Cyanide  Ohhhhh, I see. and a bit more interesting.

They have, who knows using what criteria since they have no community interaction of any kind, selected 20 BB leagues and those leagues have been granted the opportunity to run a special season with fresh teams that will then also be able to qualify X amount of the top performing coaches to the play offs. Obviously you'd expect the league winner to qualify along with 0-3 other people depending on the size/quality of the special season versus the rest of the league.

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Community Qualifier Leagues

We organised the World Cup with the biggest and most active Blood Bowl community leagues. A Blood Bowl World Cup would be meaningless without its awesome community and that's why you'll be able to qualify for the playoff in the numerous community leagues!

You need to fill the registration form before applying for a Community Qualifier.

Each league has its own rules and organises its own qualifier tournament.

Registrations are open until 9 February 2016.

The number of tickets for the Play-off awarded to each league will be unveiled 11 February 2016.

The Community Qualifier Leagues start 11 February 2016 and finishes on 11 May 2016.

Don't trust that Feb 9th date, some leagues are trying to close registration earlier than that probably for the sanity of their admins. I saw several that were already saying they wanted to lock the players/teams in around Feb 4th a week before competition starts.

Obviously some effort has been made to be inclusive of various world regions though having only the data of who streams BB on twitch its a pretty shocking split:

EU Leagues: 2
France: 5
UK, Germany, Spain & Italy: 1

USA Leagues: 4

Latin America: 1

Russia/CIS: 1

Aussie: 1

Plus two leagues that claim world-wide membership make up the 20.

I have zero clue how the UK only gets 1 slot. Ditto Australia considering their TZ issues are immense compared to anyone else. Asia gets nothing at all, so I guess that confirms that they don't BB. France gets five leagues and the US gets four. That seems like too many on both counts.

I suspect the winner will come from either a ladder coach (very good players and players who play alot will grind that 20-0) or a representative of one of the two EU or World leagues which should have much stronger competition than the rest.

I can't wait for the graft, cheating and drama that is sure to come from all this. Just like the real world cup! Some of these leagues whose sites I visited do not look like they have the preparation or integrity to withstand people who really want to win playing with them.

Meanwhile this announcement did not accompany a sale of the base game or the dlc teams thus far or the release of a new team, or a patch that fixes basic shit that needs fixing. Sooooooooo basically nobody knows about it. Because Cyanide literally can't function on some basic level.

Hopefully if I get the game in time to join some leagues and some of you join some also we can have a thread on the hilarity and drama and stories.
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Reply #220 on: May 03, 2016, 04:59:09 AM

Norse, Undead, Necro, and Nurgle teams on the way.

http://steamcommunity.com/games/236690/announcements/detail/833540992991515942

Also, for PC people, if you buy the game today, you'll get the Undead, Necro, and Nurgle teams for free when they're released. If you buy it right nao (as of this posting) before 7PM CEST, you'll get the Norse too. That's about 1PM for EST, if I'm zoning right.

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Reply #221 on: May 03, 2016, 05:27:04 AM

For $45 US? Go and get fucked Cyanide.

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Reply #222 on: May 03, 2016, 05:42:47 AM

Yeah, pretty safe to say that they probably won't be having any flash or weekend sales like they've been having for a while. Maybe something for the summer sale.

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Reply #223 on: July 27, 2016, 01:13:16 PM

BB2 is on sale now for $17 CDN on Steam, which is 66% off, and 3 of the 4 DLC teams are on sale for 50%-66% off.  I finally caved and bought plus the Lizardmen and Wood Elves.  Preparing myself for the inevitable soul crushing double skull roll that kills my best player. awesome, for real

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Reply #224 on: July 27, 2016, 04:38:10 PM

Still too much.

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Reply #225 on: July 27, 2016, 07:52:11 PM

It was like 14 bucks during the last Steam sale. I actually thought about it, but decided to check if they'd done anything about the league management issues. Nope, lol.

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Reply #226 on: February 09, 2017, 07:54:54 AM

http://www.bloodbowl-game.com/en/news/163-blood-bowl-2-legendary-edition-brings-plenty-of-new-content-and-features-to-the-pitch

After three years and a bunch of patches and paid beta testing, we're finally getting the actual game  why so serious?

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Reply #227 on: February 09, 2017, 09:44:53 AM

Did it ever become worthwhile?

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Reply #228 on: April 01, 2017, 04:20:16 PM

Ok, after coming back to it again recently I've decided that BB2 is now pretty playable, team purchasing aside.

I'm interested in a league if anyone else is

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Reply #229 on: April 02, 2017, 03:20:21 PM

With your go ahead on this thing, I'd be interested also.  Unfortunately, I'm about to take off from Russia in a month, and then I'll be bouncing around the globe till July (and then I don't know how long it will be till I get a steady connection in Laos).  Soooo, yeah, sorry.  I probably wont be available till the second half of this year for a different season.

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Reply #230 on: April 04, 2017, 06:20:55 PM

With your go ahead on this thing, I'd be interested also.  Unfortunately, I'm about to take off from Russia in a month, and then I'll be bouncing around the globe till July (and then I don't know how long it will be till I get a steady connection in Laos).  Soooo, yeah, sorry.  I probably wont be available till the second half of this year for a different season.

I'd say interest is pretty low anyhow.

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Reply #231 on: April 05, 2017, 03:30:16 AM

I'll be interested when the full version with Amazons comes out.

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Reply #232 on: April 06, 2017, 03:34:31 AM

I wouldn't mind playing a bit of the old blood bowl. There is a suspicious dearth of tier 3 teams, however...

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Reply #233 on: April 06, 2017, 04:34:49 AM

The last season I ran for BB took a lot of wrangling to get to anywhere near reasonable numbers for a knockout league. Since then, a lot of what used to be BB regulars have gone quiet or left altogether. I have no plans to get BB2 at the moment either so a potential league has maybe 4 or 5 members as I see it. If you want to do that then maybe it's better to run it as an open league with set fixtures plus play as you like friendlies in the same league. That way people can have more than one team in the league to vary things a bit. Fixtures would be player to player, not team to team so players can pick a team that's close to their opponent's TV rather than have some bloated monstrosity vs an embattled team of mercs and most people will be able to get a game on their schedule.

That would be my suggestion anyhow but, as I said I won't be in it so you'll need to work it out with whoever wants to run a new season.

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Reply #234 on: April 09, 2017, 07:35:44 PM

once the full package drops i'll probably pick it up and dip a toe back in the ol' pool. 
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