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Reply #2205 on: January 15, 2019, 02:08:25 PM

Spider-Man: Far From Home moved here:

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Reply #2206 on: January 23, 2019, 10:06:12 AM

This was kind of fun. Preference revealer questionnaire that tells you which marvel films you prefer...


Correct rankings...

Your results:
Guardians of the Galaxy
Avengers Assemble
Thor: Ragnarok
Captain America: The First Avenger
Guardians of the Galaxy vol. 2
Iron Man
Ant-Man and the Wasp
Spider-Man: Homecoming
Captain America: The Winter Soldier
Doctor Strange
Black Panther
Avengers: Infinity War
Avengers: Age of Ultron
Iron Man 2
Captain America: Civil War
The Incredible Hulk
Iron Man 3
Thor: The Dark World

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Reply #2207 on: February 14, 2019, 08:49:28 AM

I'll tell you what I'm scratching my head about. Marvel has announced that The Eternals will begin shooting in August.

At this point, everybody should trust that Feige & Co. know what they're doing--Guardians of the Galaxy nailed that down.

I wasn't that surprised that Guardians worked because the Abnett and Lanning version they were drawing from was so good--I could see how they could make it work.

The Eternals, on the other hand, have literally never been particularly good or compelling in the three or so runs they've had of their own books, and they've only been mildly interesting as supporting characters in other Marvel titles. There really aren't any classic Eternals story arcs to adapt.

And the concept is a bit hard to square with the existing MCU unless (as I suspect) Endgame is going to change the past history of the MCU so as to make room for the X-Men, Fantastic Four, etc. to emerge in a way that makes sense. The MCU up to this point has basically two major sources for 'super-powers': advanced human tech (Stark tech or SHIELD/Hydra military tech; Wakandan tech); and Asgardian so-advanced-it-might-as-well-be-magic tech/alien tech (Kree, etc.). The third wave of films is beginning to add a bit more--now there's magic and extradimensional magical beings; there's Spider-Man and his spider-bite. But you throw the Eternals in and you have a whole RACE of super-powered people, and the baseline concept is usually that they've been here all along. You could still have them be alien technology, as they sort of are in the comics (Celestial technology), but still.

If we leave the TV series out of it, I guess--otherwise you have the headache of the Inhumans in AOS, the Runaways characters, etc.

I'll be really curious to see what they do with the following aspects of The Eternals:

a) The mimicking of the Greek gods. That seems like a bad idea on multiple levels, but take that away and you instantly lose most of the actual Eternal characters. You could still have Thena, who was really not very Athena-like. Ikaris never really had anything to do with the Greek Icarus, I think Kirby just liked the way the name looked. (There's some weird dumb thing about his son dying or whatever--which makes Ikaris actually out to be Daedulus, which he is 100% nothing like--he's a big blond muscular warrior, not a thoughtful scientist.) Sprite is just a weird little kid-like character. Ajak is just a scientist with Kirby costuming, not a famous warrior. But you can't have Makkari (Mercury) and the others like Zuras who really are Kirby-costumed versions of the Greek gods.

b) The Celestials. We've seen them twice now in the movies, so they can introduce them more directly. I suppose that would be one way to push the characters into the frame--have the Celestial host land, seal off an area (as in Kirby's version of the comic), forcing the Eternals to come out of hiding. Maybe this is how Feige puts Galactus into motion as the next big bad for the Avengers, too, now that he's reacquired the rights.

c) The Deviants. Probably the most interesting element of this corner of the Marvel Universe--particularly the forbidden romance between Kro and Thena. But same issue as the Eternals--where have all these superpowered freaks been all these years?

Anyway, this is the first MCU film where I really don't know what they're going to do with the concept or what material they might use for adaptation/inspiration.
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Reply #2208 on: February 14, 2019, 08:51:37 AM

Huh. I forgot that Thanos in the comics is actually technically an Eternal. That could be a hook.

Feige has said that they actually are going to go for the idea that the Eternals inspired human mythologies. Maybe the Asgardians are also Eternals.
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Reply #2209 on: February 14, 2019, 09:03:31 AM

Heh.  I never even heard of the Eternal's until your post.

But based on what you just said and quick wiki look through, that's probably the best angle.  Thanos going down reveals the (heavily adapted) history and presence of Eternals across the Marvel Universe.  Asgardians get a further explanation for existing, and it opens up The Olympians and other random weird fringe IP's.

I'm not saying the end result is going to be good.  But from a perspective of trying to exploit existing IP they have the rights for as their heavy hitters retire and building a new world to tell stories in, it's understandable.

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Reply #2210 on: February 14, 2019, 09:48:47 AM

The Eternals are just such a weird set of characters, and at times they've been treated like a weirder, most mythical version of the Inhumans. I'm kind of amazed they are going ahead with a movie on them, but they must have an angle they really like. Seeing as how much stuff Feige and his people have had success with, I'm willing to believe they have found that angle.

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Reply #2211 on: February 14, 2019, 10:16:17 AM

Yup, sounds like total ass. It will probably be good.

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Reply #2212 on: March 15, 2019, 01:44:55 PM

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Reply #2213 on: March 15, 2019, 01:47:56 PM


I'm shocked.

It's Shocking.

So Surprised over here.

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Reply #2214 on: March 15, 2019, 06:34:18 PM

Despite Iron Man 3, I was thinking Shane Black might be an interesting option.  But screw reason - I'm going to hope beyond hope that they change their mind, reevaluate and bring Gunn back.
I was hoping that the sudden silence by the actors meant they knew something.  They all seemed very complacent about the delays.  I didn't really expect this and thought I was engaging in wishful thinking at best... but I am very glad.

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Reply #2215 on: March 16, 2019, 12:53:27 PM

Destin Daniel Cretton has apparently been hired to direct Shang-Chi. He doesn't have a particularly deep filmography but the few movies has has seem to be well-rated (two of them starring Brie Larson, The Glass Castle and Short Term 12, are both available to watch free on Prime).
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