Marvel Universe (Thar be spoilers ahead.)

[HaemishM]

I think he should say "take themselves TOO seriously."

[Ironwood]

HE KNEW WHAT HE MEANT.

DAMN YOU JGSUDEN.  DAMN YOU TO HELL.

[jgsugden]

I sometimes wonder if you folks realize how bizarre you are.

[HaemishM]

 

[MahrinSkel]

GotG was a "band of misfits" comedy in space opera drag. It was very much "by the numbers" as a comedy, but it hit the intended notes just about perfectly, while still managing to make the appearance of Thanos (which might have seemed cornball in another movie) seem like a serious moment, and impressing us with the destructive potential of the Infinity Stones (which prior to this have been underplayed macguffins, except maybe in Dark World, which was not the most universally watched of the MCU).

And f13 is definitely a special snowflake even by geek standards, which is why I still hang out here.

--Dave

[sickrubik]

DOWNEY SHARES NEW "AVENGERS: AGE OF ULTRON" POSTER, PROMISES BIG ANNOUNCEMENT

[Tannhauser]

Wait, Captain America the same size on the new Avengers poster as Iron Man?  THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!

[Merusk]

More interesting was that Black Widow doesn't have a gratuitous ass shot and isn't showing a ton of cleavage.  Despite the fact her catsuit is unzipped to between her breasts.

[Maven]

Oh, so that's how Marvel will keep their Tony Stark. License the image, use CG and a compelling voice actor, and turn Marvel movies into photorealistic cartoons.

More so than they already are.

[Ironwood]

That's bullshit right ? 

[DraconianOne]

No. It was the same technique they used in Captain America for little Steve Rogers. They had a body double act the part then they got RDJ to do the scene from the neck up then superimposed his face on to the doubles.  It's not quite the same as having a full CGI model or CGI generated features which I think that image implies.

[Merusk]

That started back in Jurassic Park when the girl's stunt double looked at the camera in the "falling out of the ceiling" scene. 

The real kicker will be when we download actors minds into the CGI environment. 

[Ironwood]

No. It was the same technique they used in Captain America for little Steve Rogers. They had a body double act the part then they got RDJ to do the scene from the neck up then superimposed his face on to the doubles.  It's not quite the same as having a full CGI model or CGI generated features which I think that image implies.

Yeah, that's wildly different to what the pic says to me.

That's fair enough.

[jgsugden]

There is apparently a big announcement coming in 6 days or so - I'm betting it might be Spider-man related.  I'm wondering if they might announce the casting of Spider-man then and then add a super brief cameo of Spider-man (perhaps his origin moment) into the Avengers II?  Probably nothing more complex than the Schwarma Scene from Avengers I that was filmed weeks before the movie released.

Putting his card into the deck in May gives them more latitude to skip ahead and ignore the full origin story and potentially make more use of Spider-man in Cap II as a concrete character (which I believe they have/had time to do... others disagree, I know). 

[sickrubik]

There is apparently a big announcement coming in 6 days or so 

Are we now bloodworthing the avengers thread?

[eldaec]

Never stop bloodworthing.

PS. this is not the big announcement.

[UnSub]

That's bullshit right ? 

If you look around you can see how good Marvel Studios has got at CGI'ing in things into scenes. They might still need actors to stand there, but they don't need to worry about getting things like costuming right on set.

[SurfD]

That's bullshit right ? 

If you look around you can see how good Marvel Studios has got at CGI'ing in things into scenes. They might still need actors to stand there, but they don't need to worry about getting things like costuming right on set.

So wait?  You mean to tell me that Robert Downy Jr wasn't actually flying around in a suit of powered armor fighting an evil  glowing guy with dragons tatooed on his body in the final scenes of Iron Man 3?  Who knew.   

[Ironwood]

lol.

[jgsugden]

No, he did all of that.  The CGI was primarily to add to his height so that Gwyneth didn't tower over him.

[Ironwood]

What was in the box ?

[jgsugden]

That would have been another solution to make RDJ taller than GP...

[Ironwood]

My preferred solution....

[sickrubik]

Also would have made a better Oscars.

[jgsugden]

Latino Review is reporting some vague spoilers for the Spidey Movie.  Non-spoilers:
* Goddard writing and directing. 
* No clarity is provided as to whether it will be traditional Peter Parker, a reconceived Peter Parker or Miles Morales.

Spoilers:
I know a lot of people take LR with a large grain of salt. 

[MahrinSkel]

RDJ's contract includes for him to appear in a certain number of cameos in other movies (like Captain America's cameo in Dark World), which has not actually been used yet, so it wouldn't mean negotiating a new paycheck for him to be in such a scene.

Why are you spoilering that? The whole thread has a spoiler warning.

--Dave

[jgsugden]

People have complained about similar things not being labeled spoilers before in this thread - better safe than sorry.

Are you referencing some change to RDJ's contract around the time he was added to Cap III?  He signed a renewed deal to be In Avengers 2 and 3/4, but was signed for nothing else.  Then, I thought they added Cap III as a stand alone - was I wrong about that one?

[Evildrider]

Word is RDJ doesn't want to do any more standalone Iron Man movies and that he came to Marvel with ideas to still use the character in other films.  For instance, it was his idea to co star in Cap 3.  This keeps him from making the super paychecks that came with the Iron Man movies and helps keep Marvel costs down.  I think doing cameos and small bits in other movies will also keep him from getting bored with the role.

[jgsugden]

That is at least slightly off - Marvel approached him to do a cameo in Cap III and he persuaded them that he should have a more substantial (but less armored) role.  http://variety.com/2014/film/news/robert-downey-jr-to-join-captain-america-3-exclusive-1201312229/...

Originally, Marvel wanted to hire Downey for a small role, which would have required just three weeks of work. But Downey wanted Stark to have a more substantial role in the film’s plot, which would give him more screen time and naturally a bigger payday.

[Maven]

Marvel has gotten all the mileage they could get out of Stark's personal arc. His character will be someone who influences what the plot is and where it goes, but I don't see him outside an ensemble film or where he is  playing off some other main character.

[eldaec]

Latino Review is reporting some vague spoilers for the Spidey Movie.  Non-spoilers:
* Goddard writing and directing. 
* No clarity is provided as to whether it will be traditional Peter Parker, a reconceived Peter Parker or Miles Morales.

Spoilers:
I know a lot of people take LR with a large grain of salt. 

Wasn't Latino Review the one making shit up about Planet Hulk? If so, that doesn't even count as jdsugdenesque.

[eldaec]

  I think doing cameos and small bits in other movies will also keep him from getting bored with the role.

Nothing to do with being bored. This way he gets the profile from Iron Man to win  other projects, and probably still gets paid as much as the other heroes. Sounds like he is smart enough to realise why the Rat won't sanction another MCU deal for megabucks, but with this deal everyone gets to win.

[jgsugden]

Latino Review 'reported Planet Hulk', which was all wrong.  However, a good portion of the news they break turns out to be true.  They take more risks than other sites, clearly, but you're free to take it with a grain of salt until corroborated elsewhere.  However, a lot of people have been predicting that Goddard would be the one to direct Spidey in the MCU ever since December and multiple sources started to report the strong likelihood that Spidey was headed into the MCU.

[eldaec]

In case you are wondering, the point at which they crossed into "that's bullshit, clearly" is the point where they suggest the detailed plot of a film involving at least 8 supers when in reality it won't even have a treatment agreed yet.

They transparently wrote the bit about the Sinister 6 based entirely on the old Sony plan, I really can't see Disney making a reboot movie with 6 villains at once. Also any and all Iron Man speculation is obvious click bait.

I can imagine RDJ turning up to recruit Spiderman the way Mace Windu does at the end of Iron Man, I can imagine them using any 1 or even 2 of the Sinister 6.

But if they are rebooting Spiderman, the film will need to be about Spiderman. There is plenty of opportunity for cameos and easter eggs, but the last thing they need is 7 other supers in a central plot position stealing attention from Spiderman.

[MediumHigh]

I think no one wants to address the elephant in the room. How is one movie suppose to cover the civil war? I mean your kinda already pushing it with Ultron being just one movie. I mean granted I think there's a better story in a one hour and a half debate between cap and tony but if there going to delve into other stories, especially the more recent events, a one part movie may not do it.