schild
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Sure, but much like video games, movies can be enjoyable or watchable while still being total shit.
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calapine
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Independence Day has always been a stupid film, I am not sure why some here think otherwise.
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Merusk
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Independence Day has always been a stupid film, I am not sure why some here think otherwise.
Because they were 12 when they saw it.
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Sir T
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Wow, the plot similarities between this and "Casablanca" are just stunning
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rk47
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The Citizen Kane of Robot Movies. 
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MediumHigh
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I mean this movie was basically Evangelion only two people have to mind-meld with a robot and the smartass hotshot is from Australia instead of Germany. They even aped the 'increasing monster difficulty' bit as well as the 'tons of scenes of a robot sliding backwards through a town' thing.
This is probably why I thought the movie was amazing. They even have dual-pilot Evas in 3.0. Except I'd rather be defended by adults who called their giant robots jaegers than teenagers with daddy issues that call their robots evas. So I took another soul to see it, my adopted little sister loved it and wanted more exposition as far as the fall of the jaegar program. A lot of the "we need more of" belongs in an ongoing series, as she told me "well I'd love more character depth but it'll be a five hour movie." I think I''m up to see this 3 more times while I only saw the avengers once.
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Independence Day has always been a stupid film, I am not sure why some here think otherwise.
Because they were 12 when they saw it. I was 25. It's still fun when you're drunk on July 4th.
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Tuned in, immediately get to watch cringey Ubisoft talking head offering her deepest sympathies to the families impacted by the Orlando shooting while flanked by a man in a giraffe suit and some sort of "horrifically garish neon costumes through the ages" exhibit or something. We need to stop this fucking planet right now and sort some shit out. -Kail
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rk47
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They're both good awesome movies. I don't care what people say. There's bad and good of course, but I enjoyed both movies for what it is. Welcome to Urf and Elbow Rockets.
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I think the term stupid gets chucked around with little thought. ID4 and PR aren't terribly deep movies, but I wouldn't call them stupid. We can argue if they were effective movies, and get into all kinds of subjectivity!  And I liked ID4 when I saw it in my 20's, and if it pops up while I'm surfing the cable, I'll stop and watch it.
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Every time I spot Independence Day on TV it just makes me realise I'd rather be watching Mars Attacks.
And Mars Attacks was pretty disappointing.
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Ironwood
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My views on ID4 are a matter of public record. It's a shit film.
To me, that is. I understand the merits.
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Ghambit
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Some of you guys are breaking the Goldblum rule. You're not allowed to say a movie is bad that he's in. Moderator?
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schild
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Oh, people knocking ID4 have been logged in the Blumbook. Don't you worry about that.
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MrHat
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Out of the frying pan, into the fire.
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Nevermore
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Some of you guys are breaking the Goldblum rule. You're not allowed to say a movie is bad that he's in. Moderator?
Oh yeah? Even this one? 
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Over and out.
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How can you hate a movie that brought us the wisdom, "Welcome to Earf"
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murdoc
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Every time I spot Independence Day on TV it just makes me realise I'd rather be watching Mars Attacks.
And Mars Attacks was pretty disappointing.
You know, a week ago I would have agreed with this, but a week ago I watched some of Mars Attacks and it's so fucking awful. I'll take ID4 thanks.
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Have you tried the internet? It's made out of millions of people missing the point of everything and then getting angry about it
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Some of you guys are breaking the Goldblum rule. You're not allowed to say a movie is bad that he's in. Moderator?
Death Wish was my favorite!
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tazelbain
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"Aliens attack because they are dicks and humans rally to send them packing" is a staple of the genre that goes well beyond ID4. What matters is the execution and it was outstanding.
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Some of you guys are breaking the Goldblum rule. You're not allowed to say a movie is bad that he's in. Moderator?
Oh yeah? Even this one?  The most miscast Geena Davis has ever been.
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Just saw it. Schild was right.
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In the robots punching aliens genre this film is probably stand-out. Otherwise though I didn't find it to be all that great.
Also, don't see this film in 3D, it has the most obnoxious pseudo-3D of any film I have ever had to watch.
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Saw it again. Still awesome.
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Threash
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The russian and chinese robots, sorry "jaegers", were way fucking cooler and went down like bitches after about a minute of screen time. Damn you.
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Ironwood
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I just saw this.
It was kind of shitty. It was note-for-note Independence Day with fights that were about the same level of rad but with no actors nearly as fun to watch.
Hollywood might be trying to kill it for bucking the trend, but there's also no reason to keep it alive.
ALSO:
Just saw it. I agree with this word for word. Not very good. Enjoyable, but not very good. It didn't help that lines were lifted wholesale from other movies. Ah well.
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schild
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Oh gee, look who has two thumbs and isn't crazy.
<-- This guy.
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Threash
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There is ALWAYS going to be a better way of doing something besides giant robots, that is the first thing you have to get over if you ever want to watch any movie about giant robots.
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schild
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Not sure if I agree. Gundam and Zone of the Enders Robots seemed like pretty good ways of dealing with the problem.
Pacific Rim's problem was on the painful end of "easy to solve." Robots never have to be the best solution but they certainly don't need to be used if they are the most contrived solution.
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Ironwood
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schild
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Yup, not at all painfully dreadful.
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Look I love me some gundam but if you are gonna start picking apart pacific rim for shit, gundam is the LAST place you go to for better examples.
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schild
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I don't disagree with that, but once again, fuck, focus on the very tiny tiny portion of what I said, not the entirety of that godawful anime series.
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Oh gee, look who has two thumbs and isn't crazy.
<-- This guy.
When the only other guy sharing your corner of dissent is Ironwood, it's safe to say you're still certifiable.
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schild
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Except he's not.
So...
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