Pacific Rim

[Nevermore]

d)  It's obvious explosives just dont work on these things.  You need hydraulics, servos, fusion reactors, et. al.

Explosions work by concussive force.  Punches work by concussive force. 

By the same token, it doesn't matter if the monsters come from another dimension where the laws of physics work differently (lawls).  How does that affect a human built nuclear device being triggered in our dimension?

[Merusk]

You are thinking too much about giant robots beating the shit out of Cthulu.

I didn't say the movie didn't look awesome. The ship thing just broke my suspension of disbelief. 

The no-nuke thing needs a far better reason than "a wizard did it" in a sci-fi movie.

[Soln]

my ears!  looks great, but I may have to miss the theater option

[murdoc]

You guys 

[Simond]

I am pretty sure you can't swing a tanker like that, because it would break before. And why is puniching in the face better thank a nuclear bomb?

But don't bother replying. I am the kind of person who cares about realism in SF films and immersion MMORPGs. *sigh*

Because you need pilot(s) synchronised with the Eva Jaeger to get through the Angel's Kaiju's AT field

[Lakov_Sanite]

Simond, I really am not coming to shit on your parade in every thread, I'm really not. In fact I bet we have similar tastes in anime judging by icon alone.

That said, you could do a lot worse than ripping off eva as far as source goes.

[Ratman_tf]

 Plus they're in the cities and we'll not nuke our own cities. 

Yep. That one's easy and 'realistic'.

Tanker.. well fuck. It looks coooool! 

[Ghambit]

d)  It's obvious explosives just dont work on these things.  You need hydraulics, servos, fusion reactors, et. al.

Explosions work by concussive force.  Punches work by concussive force. 

By the same token, it doesn't matter if the monsters come from another dimension where the laws of physics work differently (lawls).  How does that affect a human built nuclear device being triggered in our dimension?

The armor on the monsters requires blunt force, not wavelike concussive force.

[Margalis]

I am pretty sure you can't swing a tanker like that, because it would break before. And why is puniching in the face better thank a nuclear bomb?

You are going to set off a bunch of nukes in the middle of San Francisco? (Or wherever the fuck) Punching a dude in the face has a slightly lower environmental impact.

[cironian]

Plus, it sounds like there's a large number of monsters. If you're planning to set off a few dozen nukes each month, soon you'll be killing humanity more efficiently than the enemy could.

[Ironwood]

There is, however, an argument for nuking the actual portal they're coming through.

But hey, I'm shocked that people are actually analysing this film.  Just go and watch robots punch monsters.

[Lantyssa]

Murdoc has the right of it with that gif.

[Typhon]

There is, however, an argument for nuking the actual portal they're coming through.

But hey, I'm shocked that people are actually analysing this film.  Just go and watch robots punch monsters.

If you can't have a 'is it realistic' conversation about giant space monsters and equally giant robots as the big draw... what can you have a serious conversation about?

[Ironwood]

Polio.

[Lakov_Sanite]

Marco...

[Khaldun]

I'm sorry, but why is it that we're thinking that any kind of realism applies to an interdimensional portal in the bottom of the ocean that opens onto a realm of impossibly big creatures who keep stepping through it? "Oh, if this was realistic, they'd nuke it and the movie would be over". Right, right, because everyone knows that nuclear weapons work really well on magical interdimensional portals that don't exist in the actual universe. Stephen Hawking studied that at some point, right?

Why stop at complaining about the non-use of nukes to kill a bunch of monsters destroying cities (which is really like deciding to handle a guinea worm infection by amputating the entire leg instead of doing the slow, agonizing work of getting the worm out of the wound)? If we were going to be realistic we might want to talk about how it's basically impossible for anything living to be that big with that kind of structure. Those kaiju are a bit bigger than a blue whale or a diplodocus, you know--and blue whales have to live in water, and diplodocus (and other dinosaurs) lived in a much more oxygen-rich atmosphere, which seems to have been a precondition of widespread gigantism.

Nerd realism is really weird in what it complains about and what it accepts without question. If you're going to complain that the tanker should rip apart, you should complain that the kaiju AND the robots should be structurally impossible.

[Merusk]

Everyone has a different line for suspension of disbelief.  Some people can't do it at all and read only non-fiction because of it.  Such is life.

[Venkman]

Nukes in Hollywood are still used as a last resort. Popular culture understands these may kill whatever shows up, but we're likely going with them. I though Oblivion did a good job of showing that. Heck, even Independence Day ranted about that option (and it was ineffectual anyway).

As to disbelief, these kind of nerdgasms are half the reason it's fun being a nerd*. If we can't theorycraft what we'd do if we could make decisions in cases like that, then shit, the whole concept of hero's journey as a fictional foundation wouldn't have any market 

While the oil tanker thing was cool, no matter the ribbing and hulls, torque from the speed of the swing would crack it. Better to just throw the thing.

Why did they make their giant robots only the same size as the monsters?  Why not make a ginormous spider mech like 5 times larger than the monsters?

God, exactly. I always wondered that from the original Justice League cartoons. That one Indian guy who could make himself huge? Why didn't he just go all Unicron, grow until he was 10x the heigh of whatever bad thing showed up, and stomp them?

* Which I assume we've all come to terms with if we're in this thread at all

[Typhon]

So we're really just having problems with the boat?  In a movie about giant space monster aliens and the giant robots that fight them.  With that sig?

 

[Merusk]

Exactly, a ship is a better javelin than a club, damnit! 

I always thought Apache Chief (that's his name, you racist! )  had limitations on sizing.  I don't recall seeing any size beyond Normal -> 50' giant. No gradation between or anything larger than that.

[Nevermore]

I'm sorry, but why is it that we're thinking that any kind of realism applies to an interdimensional portal in the bottom of the ocean that opens onto a realm of impossibly big creatures who keep stepping through it? "Oh, if this was realistic, they'd nuke it and the movie would be over". Right, right, because everyone knows that nuclear weapons work really well on magical interdimensional portals that don't exist in the actual universe. Stephen Hawking studied that at some point, right?

Why stop at complaining about the non-use of nukes to kill a bunch of monsters destroying cities (which is really like deciding to handle a guinea worm infection by amputating the entire leg instead of doing the slow, agonizing work of getting the worm out of the wound)? If we were going to be realistic we might want to talk about how it's basically impossible for anything living to be that big with that kind of structure. Those kaiju are a bit bigger than a blue whale or a diplodocus, you know--and blue whales have to live in water, and diplodocus (and other dinosaurs) lived in a much more oxygen-rich atmosphere, which seems to have been a precondition of widespread gigantism.

Nerd realism is really weird in what it complains about and what it accepts without question. If you're going to complain that the tanker should rip apart, you should complain that the kaiju AND the robots should be structurally impossible.

Well fuck, in that case why not just give Gandalf a call and have him take care of things. 

[HaemishM]

I always thought Apache Chief (that's his name, you racist! )  had limitations on sizing.  I don't recall seeing any size beyond Normal -> 50' giant. No gradation between or anything larger than that.

[Lakov_Sanite]

  Heyooo!

[Venkman]

I always thought Apache Chief (that's his name, you racist! )  had limitations on sizing.  I don't recall seeing any size beyond Normal -> 50' giant. No gradation between or anything larger than that.

Hey, I did say Indian! 

And wasn't there that one episode where some bad female version of himself showed up and he kept saying inukchuk over and over until he was as tall?

It was canon I tells ya, CANON!

[UnSub]

This thread is best thread.

[Ratman_tf]

[Stormwaltz]

Hey, another new trailer. SHUT UP AND TAKE MY GODDAMN MONEY.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5guMumPFBag&hd=1

[Lakov_Sanite]

Are you not entertained?!

[kaid]

I am pretty sure you can't swing a tanker like that, because it would break before. And why is puniching in the face better thank a nuclear bomb?

You are going to set off a bunch of nukes in the middle of San Francisco? (Or wherever the fuck) Punching a dude in the face has a slightly lower environmental impact.

Ya pretty much this if a giant robot gets the job done the long term impact to cities has simply got to be less using them than nukes.

[Evildrider]

At most the city gets trashed instead of everything for 100's of miles getting fucked.

[HaemishM]

Hey, another new trailer. SHUT UP AND TAKE MY GODDAMN MONEY.

This. I WILL see this in 3D just fucking because.

[RhyssaFireheart]

Hey, another new trailer. SHUT UP AND TAKE MY GODDAMN MONEY.

This. I WILL see this in 3D just fucking because.

3D here I come!

[MrHat]

Jax and Clay!

[Evildrider]

[murdoc]

YES