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Reply #105 on: October 29, 2012, 12:49:10 AM

Which is what I'm doing at the moment. I just asked because I thought I might get some more enjoyable gameplay out of my 60 dollar purchase. I guess not.

You want enjoyable? Didn't you get the memo that as a consumer you don't know what enjoyable/fun is?

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Reply #106 on: October 29, 2012, 11:09:26 AM

There's no "need" to use the AH. Although I question why anyone would really mind selling a pair of boots for $40.  tongue

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Reply #107 on: October 30, 2012, 11:16:00 AM

Still hoping for a ladder.   Now that they fixed the game it needs a wipe.
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Reply #108 on: October 30, 2012, 11:23:58 PM

Still hoping for a ladder.   Now that they fixed the game it needs a wipe.

Are you suggesting they wipe all the items people have purchased on the RMAH? If so I wouldn't hold my breath on that one.

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Reply #109 on: October 31, 2012, 09:36:40 AM

What this game needs more Diablo 3!  Seriously an expansion to raise the level cap introduce a new currency and devalue all current items would level the playing field as well as a wipe and piss far less people off.  Just make sure there are money/item sinks in the expansion that will actually work towards keeping the economy stable.
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Reply #110 on: October 31, 2012, 11:01:54 AM

Still hoping for a ladder.   Now that they fixed the game it needs a wipe.

Are you suggesting they wipe all the items people have purchased on the RMAH? If so I wouldn't hold my breath on that one.



Nah, a ladder would just mean making new characters, not wiping existing ones.

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Reply #111 on: October 31, 2012, 11:28:35 AM

I'm having fun again in this.

Maybe I'm just going through a Diablo cycle (as we all have over the past 12 years), but the MP, the greatly improved drop rates and general badassness of the barb are causing me joy.

It's still a game about farming items, but I've actually found a few useful pieces, and sold a bunch more.
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Reply #112 on: October 31, 2012, 11:32:09 AM

For me, the actual gameplay is just so much better than the alternative, too. When I hit someone in this game, it really feels like I hit someone. In TL2 I click on guys and they fall over but there's far less of a feeling of interactivity. I just like the skills in this game so much better, too.

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Reply #113 on: October 31, 2012, 03:21:36 PM

Still hoping for a ladder.   Now that they fixed the game it needs a wipe.

Are you suggesting they wipe all the items people have purchased on the RMAH? If so I wouldn't hold my breath on that one.



Nah, a ladder would just mean making new characters, not wiping existing ones.
If everyone moved to the ladder it would completely devalue the characters who purchased items. I don't see blizzard killing the chicken that's laying their golden eggs.
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Reply #114 on: November 01, 2012, 06:00:47 AM

What this game needs more Diablo 3!  Seriously an expansion to raise the level cap introduce a new currency and devalue all current items would level the playing field as well as a wipe and piss far less people off.  Just make sure there are money/item sinks in the expansion that will actually work towards keeping the economy stable.

This MMO talk is how we got in this situation to begin with.  Since we are here already, though, sure.  Why not? why so serious?

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Reply #115 on: November 01, 2012, 06:58:27 AM

Speaking of MMO's instead of craptastic my little pony land the "secret level" should have been a WoW instance.  In further news the legendary item drops are almost too streaky to be random, I think day before yesterday I did 4 runs and accumulated 5 legendaries and 2 set items, yesterday I did 6 runs and got nada. 
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Reply #116 on: November 01, 2012, 10:32:45 AM

Speaking of MMO's instead of craptastic my little pony land the "secret level" should have been a WoW instance.  In further news the legendary item drops are almost too streaky to be random, I think day before yesterday I did 4 runs and accumulated 5 legendaries and 2 set items, yesterday I did 6 runs and got nada. 

Random is random.
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Reply #117 on: November 01, 2012, 10:42:48 AM

Looking for meaning in a sample size that small is pointless.

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Reply #118 on: November 01, 2012, 11:28:05 AM

Quick thought, isn't the Paragon system going to make raising the level cap problematic?

I mean what do you do? Keep Paragon levels as a tacked-on thing regardless of character level? Wipe them and make you re-grind Paragon at level nuCap? Create ParagonSchparagon, a separate set of extra Paragon levels?

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Reply #119 on: November 01, 2012, 11:31:40 AM

I would wipe them, and have them provide your characters with an permanent xp buff for the new leveling content of 1% for every paragon level you gained.

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Reply #120 on: November 01, 2012, 11:44:18 AM

I don't see them raising the level cap.

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Reply #121 on: November 01, 2012, 12:37:06 PM

Quick thought, isn't the Paragon system going to make raising the level cap problematic?

I don't see a problem, leave it there and alone, make it so that you can only earn paragon exp while at max level.  New levels means new abilities while paragon is just a stat boost.
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Reply #122 on: November 01, 2012, 03:16:08 PM

I wouldn't expect any level cap boosts. A hard gear reset like that would piss Blizzard's RMAH base off. Expect some new classes and zones, like other Diablo incarnations.
Oh and, most importantly, slow mudflation. Mudflation will allow them to obsolete old gear and keep the RMAH purchase cycle going without people freaking out. We have seen this in 1.04 with the legendary buffs, and 1.05 with the massively increased ilvl63 drops.

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Reply #123 on: November 01, 2012, 03:49:06 PM

Speaking of MMO's instead of craptastic my little pony land the "secret level" should have been a WoW instance.  In further news the legendary item drops are almost too streaky to be random, I think day before yesterday I did 4 runs and accumulated 5 legendaries and 2 set items, yesterday I did 6 runs and got nada. 

Random is random.

It sure is.  I have raised two chars (DH and Barb) from paragon 1 to paragon 5 and haven't gotten a single legendary drop.  Haven't kept a single item.  Not pleased, but at the same time I don't suspect consipiracy or non-streaking or any of that other bullshit.  Random is random, and I'm really, really, really tired of it fucking me up the ass.
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Reply #124 on: November 09, 2012, 06:36:40 AM

Well it has been a long grind but my DPS is finally at a point where this game feels like diablo, why they required a 400 hour grind to get to that point is beyond me.  It should have been at most a 40 hour grind and I would be happily working on character #10 right now.
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Reply #125 on: November 09, 2012, 06:41:02 AM

Speaking of MMO's instead of craptastic my little pony land the "secret level" should have been a WoW instance.  In further news the legendary item drops are almost too streaky to be random, I think day before yesterday I did 4 runs and accumulated 5 legendaries and 2 set items, yesterday I did 6 runs and got nada. 

Random is random.

It sure is.  I have raised two chars (DH and Barb) from paragon 1 to paragon 5 and haven't gotten a single legendary drop.  Haven't kept a single item.  Not pleased, but at the same time I don't suspect consipiracy or non-streaking or any of that other bullshit.  Random is random, and I'm really, really, really tired of it fucking me up the ass.

They should add rest MF too.

Every day you don't log in provides a bonus 10% MF up to 100% MF for an hour when you do?
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Reply #126 on: November 09, 2012, 06:57:35 AM

What's the RMAH and AH looking like these days? Are things selling?

The reason I quit a couple months ago was because I couldn't sell anything anymore, and I couldn't get drops to upgrade myself on my own. Nature of the beast is that I need to be able to trade to get the gold to get the upgrades.

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Reply #127 on: November 09, 2012, 07:35:28 AM

What's the RMAH and AH looking like these days? Are things selling?

The reason I quit a couple months ago was because I couldn't sell anything anymore, and I couldn't get drops to upgrade myself on my own. Nature of the beast is that I need to be able to trade to get the gold to get the upgrades.

Very high end items have gone up in price, but mid range but still good items have gone down in price.  A lot of stuff that would have been good 4 months ago won't even sell now though.  I've managed to gear up quite a bit just between my friend and I finding stuff post patch though, and filling in with some moderately priced legendaries (in the 2-3 million a pop range).  You're still best off if you get lucky with one really nice drop that will get you a few 10s of million to get you rolling though, I've yet to find anything like that.  Nonetheless, I've still cobbled together a respectable set of gear.
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Reply #128 on: November 09, 2012, 07:59:38 AM

The bar keeps getting raised on "what is sellable" this works in your favor as you can build a set of gear that will allow you to at least have a shot at farming MP-1 sellable drops for pretty cheap.  I do somewhat hate that after shelling out 60m for a high end piece of gear it will be almost unsellable by the time I upgrade it.
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Reply #129 on: November 09, 2012, 08:30:32 AM

I've got a dh and barb up to 60,  managed to get a few drops, and spent about 200k in the ah to outfit the dh for mp1 farming. Nothing  cheap on the ah for the barb though, in hoping for some drops, but having fun with the dh.
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Reply #130 on: November 09, 2012, 10:57:15 AM

I haven't had trouble selling what drops for me for the most part. It does seem like if your goal is cash, sell for gold, then sell the gold is the path, despite the AH fees. That may be different at very, very high item qualities.

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Reply #131 on: November 09, 2012, 11:52:32 AM

I haven't had trouble selling what drops for me for the most part. It does seem like if your goal is cash, sell for gold, then sell the gold is the path, despite the AH fees. That may be different at very, very high item qualities.

Actually it is more true at higher levels, because the dollar amount maxes at $250, but you can sell for gold levels which far exceed that.  I saw, for example, a guy who sold an amulet for the equivalent of ~$600 a couple of weeks ago.  Even with the fees, you come out way ahead.
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Reply #132 on: November 12, 2012, 07:56:29 AM

Still hoping for a ladder.   Now that they fixed the game it needs a wipe.

Are you suggesting they wipe all the items people have purchased on the RMAH? If so I wouldn't hold my breath on that one.



Nah, a ladder would just mean making new characters, not wiping existing ones.
If everyone moved to the ladder it would completely devalue the characters who purchased items. I don't see blizzard killing the chicken that's laying their golden eggs.

I can safely say that adding a ladder system would inject a lot more people back into the game.

And what golden egg is being laid at this point? It's not like Blizzard is staying afloat from the piddly amount of RMAH money transactions they are scraping off the top.
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Reply #133 on: November 12, 2012, 08:17:50 AM

Maybe ladder seasons would help get people back at the start, but inevitably people would get out paced again, so I wonder if it would get people back into the game long term.  I actually like the idea of ladder seasons, I just don't know that it actually solves the problem.
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Reply #134 on: November 12, 2012, 09:57:58 AM

I'm shocked, but with MP10 this game is somewhat fun even on lower difficulties. And once in a while there even drops an item that would be an upgrade.
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Reply #135 on: November 12, 2012, 09:59:28 AM

I'm shocked, but with MP10 this game is somewhat fun even on lower difficulties. And once in a while there even drops an item that would be an upgrade.

Hadn't even thought of that!  Makes me want to start leveling up some other guys.

I'm still enjoying this game.

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Reply #136 on: November 12, 2012, 10:05:51 AM

I'm shocked, but with MP10 this game is somewhat fun even on lower difficulties. And once in a while there even drops an item that would be an upgrade.

hmmm MP10 farming Leorics Signet?
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Reply #137 on: November 16, 2012, 07:14:50 AM

I tried this for the first time last night.

Holy shit, inferno on regular doesn't suck ass anymore. Huzzah!

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Reply #138 on: January 21, 2013, 03:13:27 PM

This patch brought what I expected to get a few months back.

Tons more fun and finally getting loot stuff.  Found a couple legendaries over the weekend with about 5 hours played.

MP1 4tw right now.  Tentatively excited about next patch, also!

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