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KallDrexx
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on: August 28, 2012, 11:46:16 AM

A lot of people are complaining about being unfairly banned, so Arenanet is going on the offensive.  They created a Reddit thread offering players to post their names and they will show why they were banned.  It's pretty funny to watch people be publicly called out.

Other side to the story though is that it seems a lot of accounts are getting hacked by gold sellers.
Tmon
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Reply #1 on: August 28, 2012, 12:02:54 PM

I love the ones where they say Name ok, Chat not ok and then post a sentence or two from the chat log that got the guy a time out.  The large number of "your account was hacked by gold sellers" responses is somewhat scary.  Thankfully I've always used unique passwords for the games I play and the forums/community sites I join.  I've always been paranoid that way.
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Reply #2 on: August 28, 2012, 12:04:52 PM

I love the whole thing. I love them taking the offensive. I love the "oh come on, we're gamers, we can tell the difference between someone saying fuck when they get killed and someone spamming it constantly." Too many companies ignore this stuff or they retreat into legalism.

I agree about the hacks. I actually changed my email on the account as a result of the thread to one that i don't use for other games or message boards.


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Reply #3 on: August 28, 2012, 12:10:29 PM

I think my favorite was this sarcastic post by one of the users.

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I think I got a ban for offensive chat but I don't think "FML I suck at dodging!" is THAT offensive. Can you check for me? My character name is Cockbag Mcniggerfag.

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Reply #4 on: August 28, 2012, 12:11:47 PM

There's a nice account feature now that let's you change your account name (I.e. your sign on email address). It was awkward for me during the BWE cause I was signing on with my old GW account email even though when I created my GW2 account I used a new email address.
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Reply #5 on: August 28, 2012, 12:17:48 PM

As much as I loathe Reddit, that thread is gold.

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Reply #6 on: August 28, 2012, 01:01:31 PM

Banned* for reporting somebody awesome, for real

http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/yxx3m/suspensions_for_offensive_names_and_inappropriate/c5ztbq1

* and unbanned after posting to that thread

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Reply #7 on: August 28, 2012, 01:52:14 PM

Christ I hate reddit's layout. I am sure if I frequented there it wouldn't be as bad, but damn thing is a mess.

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Reply #8 on: August 28, 2012, 03:00:18 PM

Ok, this has me off the fence. I am buying and playing this game. This alone is worth supporting.
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Reply #9 on: August 28, 2012, 03:13:18 PM

That thread is just awesome! I knew there was a reason I loved ANet. Out of curiosity, anyone know if Dhuum pops up and hits them with the Ban Scythe?
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Reply #10 on: August 28, 2012, 06:35:14 PM

That is freakin' gold. Awesome on Arenanet not only for doing it, but talking like a gamer. The chat logging is just awesome. Stupid prepubescent kids  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?
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Reply #11 on: August 29, 2012, 06:24:25 AM

That thread is hilarious, and a genius move by Arenanet.

They've realised that it's aggravating when the response to an offensive name/behaviour/chat ticket is nothing but "Thanks, we'll look into it".

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Reply #12 on: August 29, 2012, 10:40:59 AM

http://www.facebook.com/GuildWars2/posts/10151088714814209?notif_t=feed_comment

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My name is Obese Hemorrhoid, if i would have read "Make inappropriate references to human anatomy or bodily functions." I wouldent have used it,even tho it has been ok in all other games ive played.Would still have been nice with a warning

On the upside, he didn't say 'would of'...

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Reply #13 on: August 29, 2012, 11:06:42 AM

While I do find all this amazing and I totally applaud ANet for enforcing the naming code, I do think maybe they should have given people a heads up somehow. Maybe a quick note during character creation "such and such type of names will be enforced", since just about every other MMO company has been so lax on it.
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Reply #14 on: August 29, 2012, 11:10:51 AM

Fuck that. You know that when you scream racial slurs in chat that it's not acceptable. You know that naming yourself Cockstab Rape Power isn't acceptable. Someone, someday, was going to call you on your shittiness. Other assholes being worried about their sub model too much to ban you without warning doesn't mean that basic commonsense shouldn't apply.
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Reply #15 on: August 29, 2012, 11:37:58 AM

While I do find all this amazing and I totally applaud ANet for enforcing the naming code, I do think maybe they should have given people a heads up somehow. Maybe a quick note during character creation "such and such type of names will be enforced", since just about every other MMO company has been so lax on it.

The rules were pretty clearly stated in the documents you were supposed to agree to before you could log in.  I'm pretty sure that one more pop up that said "We really mean it and will enforce the rules you just agreed to with an iron fist." would have been clicked through just as fast the stuff preceding it with nearly 0 impact on people's behavior.  Plus most of the dipshits are only getting 3 day timeouts, which is probably a much more effective lesson on proper naming and chat than anything that a player clicks through at the start of the game.
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Reply #16 on: August 29, 2012, 11:40:43 AM

This is actually part of their business model- if they can find permabans for enough asshats they get to keep their $65 (plus RMTs!) and don't have them clogging up their servers or CS reporting queues. Win/Win.

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Numtini
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Reply #17 on: August 29, 2012, 11:42:30 AM

The "rules" are informally in place everywhere else in ones life.

There has been a lot of scrutiny of the gaming community for sexist, racist, and homophobic behavior in the last six months. I'm hoping this marks a change for more than one game.

If you can read this, you're on a board populated by misogynist assholes.
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Reply #18 on: August 29, 2012, 11:49:03 AM

I welcome anything that promotes that you really can't just say whatever your want and behave however you want in an online setting.  Some shit is out of bounds.

It was hilarious seeing a guy named "mrjizzinmypants" get renamed right in front my eyes in TSW.  We were doing the same group quest in Egypt and decided to team up.  His response, "This is bullshit, they say fuck in the cut scenes!".  Yes, it's the exact same thing, dude.  Decent group mate outside of his general lack of maturity.

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Reply #19 on: August 29, 2012, 01:32:48 PM

every other MMO company has been so lax on it.

This is just not true at all in my experience. I report names in nearly every game I play, and they get changed.

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Reply #20 on: August 29, 2012, 01:47:20 PM

every other MMO company has been so lax on it.
This is just not true at all in my experience. I report names in nearly every game I play, and they get changed.
In CoH/CoV they are/were (haven't played in a while) especially fast at this as they were sued once by Marvel for copyright and trademark infringement.
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Reply #21 on: August 29, 2012, 09:33:19 PM

Very different stance then WoW's.  I love it.

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Reply #22 on: August 29, 2012, 09:48:48 PM

Deleted my alt with a name which might offend a female someone who is well versed in 16th and 17th century slang just to be safe.

I had not even started doing anything on the alt but, hey. Never hurts.

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Reply #23 on: August 29, 2012, 10:38:22 PM

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[]cpmer 154 points 1 day ago
Mind to check? My character name is Dachshund.
Not sure if I did something wrong, probably said something in map chat.


[]ArenaNetSupportTeam 758 points 1 day ago
Name: OK Chat: Not ok -- "i AM A DOG YOU NIGGER

 why so serious?
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Reply #24 on: August 30, 2012, 01:51:25 AM

Look, I'm not saying they shouldn't do it, I love it. But I do think that a few of the names are pretty borderline for a 72 hour ban with no warning. Yelling slurs and horrible names I am fine with. I report them my self, but I still fell one more warning window would be enough to discourage a few of the one the fence types.
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Reply #25 on: August 30, 2012, 08:50:16 AM

If they chose the name in the first place, they either knew it was risque or they didn't have enough sense to know it's a problem.  Now they know.  They can suck it up.

Hahahaha!  I'm really good at this!
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Reply #26 on: August 30, 2012, 09:14:55 AM

They say repeatedly in that thread that they don't give 72 hour bans for bad names, the next time you log in you are just forced to change the name, then you can play.
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Reply #27 on: August 30, 2012, 09:21:24 AM

I think if they're lenient towards borderline cases, you very quickly get a bunch of barracks lawyers trying to hover at the borderline. If anything even with a whiff of nastiness brings down a name change or banhammer, folks steer clear.

I remember back at the beginning of vanilla WoW, Barrens chat-type stuff actually could get you banned or suspended. That didn't last very long. The only problem with what Arenanet's doing is that they'll have to keep doing it steadily for a while (the banning/suspending/name changing) because the folks that think that naming themselves "Jew Death Oven" is hilarious will keep testing to see if they can get away with it. That's pretty much what has happened in any game that tries to draw the line: if you don't keep investing time and money in maintaining the line, eventually the Hobbsean Nightmare will happen.
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Reply #28 on: August 30, 2012, 01:45:40 PM

According to this video, it's a bannable offense to buy crafting items with Karma, craft with items you just purchased, and sell the result to a vendor:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxb-anRWHrA
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Reply #29 on: August 30, 2012, 01:52:04 PM

Guy has got quite the ego if he thinks ArenaNet was actually watching his stream to detect he was using that "exploit".
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Reply #30 on: August 30, 2012, 01:53:48 PM

More likely he exploiting one of the broken DE and was converting the karma to cash

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Reply #31 on: August 30, 2012, 02:03:27 PM

According to this video, it's a bannable offense to buy crafting items with Karma, craft with items you just purchased, and sell the result to a vendor:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxb-anRWHrA

Yeah, I doubt it. From the comments it seems that he found something that was vendoring for far more than it should have (like, obviously so) and copped a temp ban for exploiting it. That's pretty normal.
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Reply #32 on: August 30, 2012, 02:18:17 PM

Getting six gold for spending ten thousand karma doesn't seem outragous to me.
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Reply #33 on: August 30, 2012, 03:33:06 PM

Getting six gold for spending ten thousand karma doesn't seem outragous to me.

It is, considering I had 12k karma by 50, and 1.6 gold.
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Reply #34 on: August 30, 2012, 06:30:48 PM

Getting six gold for spending ten thousand karma doesn't seem outragous to me.

He didn't get banned for using the exploit.  He got banned for revealing it.

Also more hilarity:  http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/z3pzz/permanently_banned_for_buying_a_few_21_karma/

For those who don't know the exploit was they were buying high level items for 21 karma a piece then transmuting them into legendaries.
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