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Topic: The sky has not fallen (yet) (Read 244736 times)
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Lantyssa
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The needing a sub to rent my SG base is what did it for me. I just want to craft my IOs. I even bought points so I could slot them. But no base access at all? Screw that.
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Hahahaha! I'm really good at this!
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Nevermore
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If retaining a sub means all the new content and stuff is automatically unlocked, then this won't affect me much at all. If not, then it'll be time to move on.
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Over and out.
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Shatter
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koro
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"On the investors conference call, Frank Gibeau (head of Labels) confirmed that The Old Republic's subscription base has indeed fallen beneath 1 million and that the company has been "disappointed" with the game's performance. Gibeau noted that 500,000 is the break-even point, and while the game is still well above that, the numbers are not acceptable, he said."
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Montague
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Riccitello = Dead man walking.
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Lantyssa
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Jawa: 8000 Hansicle: 800 Rancor: 2000
Heh.
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Evildrider
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Jawa: 8000 Hansicle: 800 Rancor: 2000
Heh.
I mean how can you NOT vote for that Jawa.
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Tannhauser
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At last, SWTOR has reached a price it's worth. Riccitello = Dead man walking.
And Jeff Hickman keeps on working.
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Outlawedprod
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We are posting in a thread for a mmo less than a year old that is already in the gaming graveyard. This game is going F2P ASAP.
Judging by Bioware's ability to get dungeon finder and good adjustments made the F2P conversion will probably take too long. I wouldn't be surprised if they hit 250k subscribers or less by the end of August.
SWAG. They couldn't even last 1 year. L o L
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Margalis
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By the way, for people like Nevermore and Sky who think the haters have churned out and the numbers will level off - throw out some numbers. Where do you think subs will be at 3 and 6 months from now? ... I'm going to say that in 3 months they will lose another 25% of what is left - so from 1.3 million to 950k or so. At 6 months around 700k.
Nailed it on page one. To be fair it wasn't hard. If anything I was on the high side.
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vampirehipi23: I would enjoy a book written by a monkey and turned into a movie rather than this.
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Hutch
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From page 2 of the original prediction thread: I agree that they're not going to go F2P, and are more likely to do Blizzard-style microtrans with cosmetic items.
I predict 500k subscribers a year from now.
So, I was wrong about the F2P. And I was also wrong (in my head) that even if they went F2P, it would take at least a year to go there. I've still got a shot at the 500k though
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Zetor
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Yea, since the game is going F2P, I'm not sure we'll get any data on the number of subbers from this point (does lotro/coh/etc disclose the number of 'VIP' players they have?). I did read one post in that thread saying 2.5mil that made me go a bit
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Outlawedprod
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I bet the sub number is closer to 500k than 1 million. They probably took a massive hit when Diablo 3 came out.
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Miasma
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I checked and I had 525,000. Seems like it might be kind of high by the time January 1 rolls around.
We aren't inlcuding free to play as subs in the totals!
Guess it's all moot if EA is going to fuck around by giving ranges like 500,000-1,000,000 instead of actual numbers.
Edit: Also wrong on the f2p, pretty sure I used the words "not a chance in hell", oh well.
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Amaron
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Guess I was wrong about the F2P and right on about the subs. Even if it was 300 mil I don't see how 500k can be breakeven. Lucas must have a vacuum hooked up straight to their revenue stream.
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Ingmar
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It should be noted that 500k as the break even point was when they were planning to keep a much larger live team. Their operating costs have dropped by a good chunk with the layoffs, so their break even point should be a good bit below 500k now.
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Mattemeo
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Either it's a slow day or this really is a bigger deal than any of us see it as, but it's even been reported on the beeb.
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ghost
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Once you start getting that sort of press you're sort of fucked.
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Cyrrex
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The game is still fun for me. I play totally solo, and haven't really made it too far...I have one level 41, a 17, and then the remaining 4 toons I have are basically still on starter planets. I still enjoy them all to some degree, and obviously have many potential hours still in front of me, being nowhere near the end on any one toon. Might have to look up Slap.
I have mixed feelings about the F2P, but mostly think it will be a good thing. I am still happily paying my subscription, so I suppose the worst case for me is just to continue doing so and still having access to all the same shit. Or even better, maybe I can spare a few bucks by avoiding having to pay for things like Raiding, which I have no interest in. I guess it is win-win? We'll see.
Also, I would pay 5 dollars for a purple lightsaber crystal. Just saying.
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ghost
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The game is still fun for me. I play totally solo, and haven't really made it too far...I have one level 41, a 17, and then the remaining 4 toons I have are basically still on starter planets. I still enjoy them all to some degree, and obviously have many potential hours still in front of me, being nowhere near the end on any one toon. Might have to look up Slap.
I would probably still play this as a non-sub game (and would in all likelihood spend money on it in doing so). I'm in the same boat you are with characters and how I play, I just have a hard time spending $150-200 for what is basically a 1 player game.
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UnSub
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It should be noted that 500k as the break even point was when they were planning to keep a much larger live team. Their operating costs have dropped by a good chunk with the layoffs, so their break even point should be a good bit below 500k now.
There are different kinds of break even points though. If 500k was really all they needed, BioWare wouldn't have seen layoffs. I think 500k was probably their disaster scenario.
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UnsGub
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Trippy
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Could that guy be anymore full of himself?
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Nevermore
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Oh come on, you'd be full of yourself too if you were a 'top cyberathlete'.
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Over and out.
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Lantyssa
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I'm so top I flipped back around to zero!
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Hahahaha! I'm really good at this!
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UnSub
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Is that the guy who blamed it on SWOR not having an economy like EVE? Oh, my sides.
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