NFL 2012

[ghost]

Well, the Raiders and the A's probably do more to decrease crime by keeping people occupied during the games than the police do.   

[Paelos]

The Falcons have been working to cram a new stadium down the throat of our city for the last 2 years. Very few people are actually in favor of it, especially if they try to pull the PSL bullshit, in addition to the hotel/motel tax hike.

Meanwhile you have a Georgia Dome that's hosting every major event possible except a Super Bowl (which is the whole purpose of this, jealousy of New Orleans and Miami)

[ghost]

The nice thing about the NFL is where the hell are these teams going to move to?  Buffalo?  London?  Mexico City?  There aren't a lot of options any more, other than LA and nobody seems to be jumping at that one. 

[Cyrrex]

Re:  Cowboys/Skins/Seahawks - I'll preface by saying that this is the NFL, and as we all know, anything can happen.

Cowboys at Redskins should be a good game.  I give the edge to the Redskins because it is in Washington, and because of RG3.  And because, you know, fuck the Cowboys.  When Romo is good, he's real good, and Bryant is also good when he's not committing felonies and stuff, or trying to string together coherent thoughts.  They have a shot at it, but I have a feeling they may wilt.

THAT SAID.  Redskins could give Seattle a good game, simply because I'm not sure that defense would know what to do with RG3.  I would still put my cash on Seattle, but I'd be nervous about it.  Cowboys vs Seattle?  Had this matchup taken place over the last three weeks, Dallas would have been another victim of a 30+ point beatdown.  Seattle now has the clear number one defense, and an offense that has been steamrolling teams of late (now number 8), to put it mildly.  Dallas is middle of the pack in both categories.  And a tendency to fold when the pressure is on.  Yes, anything can happen, but I wouldn't give Dallas much of a chance in that game.

[sickrubik]

The nice thing about the NFL is where the hell are these teams going to move to?  Buffalo?  London?  Mexico City?  There aren't a lot of options any more, other than LA and nobody seems to be jumping at that one. 

Well, part of that is that there is no place to play right this second.

LA recently voted to build a stadium next to the staples center that would serve as a stadium as a team as well as bid for the Super Bowl. The teams won't be immediately vocal  about it either, because they still need to sell tickets at their current place. We'll probably hear something in the spring during the owners meetings.

[HaemishM]

The Falcons have been working to cram a new stadium down the throat of our city for the last 2 years. Very few people are actually in favor of it, especially if they try to pull the PSL bullshit, in addition to the hotel/motel tax hike.

Wait... what? Why the fuck would the Falcons need another new stadium? Is the Georgia Dome even 20 years old? That's fucking insane.

[Paelos]

Yeah, you want to know what's even more insane? THEY WANT TO BUILD IT RIGHT NEXT DOOR AT THE WORLD CONGRESS CENTER.

Nevermind the fact that the biggest bitch ever about Atlanta sports venues are that they are literally right off the I75/85 connector, right above I20. So not only do you have 3 major interstates connecting at a point right in the financial district of downtown, you want to usher in sports traffic there as well on the evenings. Brilliant.

[Fordel]

There's a lot of stigma to not being able to support/host a proper sports team. Doesn't make it right or smart, but I can totally see why a city might favor a team over actual useful things.

[Ingmar]

Re: Oakland - it's mostly debt financing. They can't default on that without causing themselves much bigger problems. It was a mistake in the first place, but that's obvious now and you'll note that subsequent Bay Area stadiums have been financed mostly privately.

Also, Al Davis. The situation was actually worse before the Raiders came back, I believe, since they didn't have the attendant tax revenues and local business increase, but still had the stadium. The offsetting revenues are hard to pin down with an exact number, of course.

[Paelos]

Enjoy the vacation giants fans! 

[Fordel]

Does that mean the cowboys are in? I don't understand how all the wildcards and stuff work.

[K9]

Whoever wins from the redskins and the cowboys gets the 4th seed, should be a massive game tonight.

[JWIV]

And that's it for Andy Reid.  End of an era, but time.

[Chimpy]

Whoever wins from the redskins and the cowboys gets the 4th seed, should be a massive game tonight.

Division champs should not automatically get the "4 seed" (even though the seeds mean pretty much fuckall in the NFL). Soapbox off...

[Tannhauser]

Eli threw for, like, 5 TDs and won and they are still gone.  Should have been more consistent fellas.

Anyone watching the Broncos dismantle the Chiefs?  I know it's the Chiefs, but gotdamn does Denver look invincible. 
The Chiefs have no one in their secondary over 6'.   

The Falcons slide ass-backwards into the playoffs.  I know they had little to play for today, but it makes Samuel L. Jackson angry.  And you don't want to make Samuel L. Jackson angry.  HE WILL START SHOUTING.

The Lions end the season 4-12.  Dear Calvin Johnson:  I'm so sorry.

[Fordel]

Whoever wins from the redskins and the cowboys gets the 4th seed, should be a massive game tonight.

Oh, sounds exciting!

[ghost]

Romo looking pretty good so far.   

[Trippy]

He's still in the Christmas giving spirit.

[Rasix]

  

[Fordel]

Poor dumb cowboys.

[Trippy]

Romo taketh and Romo giveth away.

[naum]

[ghost]

Romo:

Wins-  13 TDs and 3 INTs
Losses-  13 TDs and 13 INTs

I still think it's tough to blame the entire season on him though.  There was plenty of suck all the way around. 

[Trippy]

And injuries.

[HaemishM]

God I love watching Jerry Jones "I'm going to miss the fucking playoffs AGAIN!" face. You can almost see him calculating how many dollars are being wasted on that team.

Romo threw 3 picks and he's just damn lucky that 2 of them didn't result in points. He needs a lot more talent around him than he's got, including an O line. Their defense is a triage unit but they still could have won the game.

The Packers really coughed up a winnable game. I'm ok with it, mainly because it means the Bears miss the playoffs again. But that does mean they'll have to face the 49ers in Frisco once they beat the Vikes at home next week. I don't mind them missing the bye because rhythm offenses like the Packers really need to stay in rhythm to be effective down the stretch. But I would much rather they have to go to the Falcons than the 49ers.

Houston and Baltimore fall ass backwards into the playoffs and lose home field. Both of these teams lost winnable games in bad ways and look weak going into the playoffs.

[Shannow]

Dear Houston,

Thank you.

Pats Fans.

[Abagadro]

I was feeling glee at watching Jones until they showed that tool Dan Snyder jumping up and down.

[HaemishM]

I was feeling glee at watching Jones until they showed that tool Dan Snyder jumping up and down.

It really is a choice between two rich douchebags. But at least RGIII is fun to watch and seems like a genuinely good kid. Romo is more annoying than anything else and Jones has a history of drafting/signing complete shitbags (Dez Bryant, Terrell Owens). I mean, it's not like the Skins are going to beat Seattle, their defense just isn't that good.

[Sjofn]

Enjoy the vacation giants fans! 

You too, buddy! 

[Trippy]

I was feeling glee at watching Jones until they showed that tool Dan Snyder jumping up and down.

It really is a choice between two rich douchebags. But at least RGIII is fun to watch and seems like a genuinely good kid. Romo is more annoying than anything else and Jones has a history of drafting/signing complete shitbags (Dez Bryant, Terrell Owens). I mean, it's not like the Skins are going to beat Seattle, their defense just isn't that good.

Synder also seems to be content with letting Shanahan run the show* unlike Jones who can't keep himself from meddling with stuff.

* Shanahan has final say, in theory, on all football matters

[Hoax]

Can't put that on Romo when they couldn't go 6 plays in a row without letting a LB go untouched on a blitz.

Holy shit the Bears fired Lovie? What in the fuck. I'd fuck with the front office but they do not have a coaching problem from where I'm sitting.

*edit* after reading about this more apparently they finally got a better GM last year and probably forced him to work with a coach he didn't hand pick this year so he was looking for an excuse. Bears are fucked and Jay Cutler may end up killing whoever the jackass offensive guru they bring in is.

Reality is they would need to pick up at least one FA lineman and one in the first two rounds of the draft if not two FA's to make that offense not suck donkey balls in 2013.

[Segoris]

Sucks about AP missing the record by 9 yards. I really wanted him to break that as I haven't seen another RB do so well who isn't making himself look like a total dbag on a regular basis.

Also, it's Coach/GM Housecleaning day!
Lovie Smith out
Tannebaum out
Chan Gailey out
Reid out
Turner out
Shurmur & Heckert out
Pioli unsure currently, likely out
Crennel out
Knapp likely out
Rivera likely out
Smith (Jac) out
Sparano possibly out (persoanlly, I'd give him another season....hopefully one with an actual NFL quarterback playing for the team)

Jones has a history of drafting/signing complete shitbags (Dez Bryant, Terrell Owens).

I actually somewhat like that about Jones, probably because I enjoyed that about his mentor Al Davis as well. I'd simply prefer he put a bit more of a restriction on them to help them grow up. See Dez Bryant and his offical-curfew-that's-not-really-an-official-curfew situation, and his best season yet.

[MrHat]

Sucks about AP missing the record by 9 yards. I really wanted him to break that as I haven't seen another RB do so well who isn't making himself look like a total dbag on a regular basis.

Also, it's Coach/GM Housecleaning day!
Lovie Smith out
Tannebaum out
Chan Gailey out
Reid out
Turner out
Shurmur & Heckert out
Pioli unsure currently, likely out
Crennel out
Knapp likely out
Rivera likely out
Smith (Jac) out
Sparano possibly out (persoanlly, I'd give him another season....hopefully one with an actual NFL quarterback playing for the team)

How many of those guys get picked up as coordinators on other teams next year?

[Segoris]

Can't put that on Romo when they couldn't go 6 plays in a row without letting a LB go untouched on a blitz.

Holy shit the Bears fired Lovie? What in the fuck. I'd fuck with the front office but they do not have a coaching problem from where I'm sitting.

*edit* after reading about this more apparently they finally got a better GM last year and probably forced him to work with a coach he didn't hand pick this year so he was looking for an excuse. Bears are fucked and Jay Cutler may end up killing whoever the jackass offensive guru they bring in is.

Reality is they would need to pick up at least one FA lineman and one in the first two rounds of the draft if not two FA's to make that offense not suck donkey balls in 2013.

I honestly don't think it's so much Lovie as it is a lack of consistency with offensive coordinators as well as a really, really shitty offensive line. Bringing in Emery was a great move and he did well in the offseason. I honestly would haved liked to have seen one more season with Lovie with a GM who is getting things running smoothly. We'll see who he brings in, maybe he can work some voodoo magic and get Gruden, or spread word of this as there obviously isn't enough Gruden rumors as of this hour

[Segoris]

Sucks about AP missing the record by 9 yards. I really wanted him to break that as I haven't seen another RB do so well who isn't making himself look like a total dbag on a regular basis.

Also, it's Coach/GM Housecleaning day!
Lovie Smith out
Tannebaum out
Chan Gailey out
Reid out
Turner out
Shurmur & Heckert out
Pioli unsure currently, likely out
Crennel out
Knapp likely out
Rivera likely out
Smith (Jac) out
Sparano possibly out (persoanlly, I'd give him another season....hopefully one with an actual NFL quarterback playing for the team)

How many of those guys get picked up as coordinators on other teams next year?

Lovie will be a head coach, if for some reason he's not than he'll be a D-coord. Rivera, Shurmur, and Crennel will all be coordinators. Reid could go either way, likely a coordinator unless a team gets desparate for a head coach. Turner will hopefully become an O-coordinator. I like him in that position, and he has success there. Head coaching though, I don't know, maybe same chances as Reid. If sparano is released, he'll likely get another coordinator job. Gailey needs to go back to special teams coaching.