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Reply #525 on: June 15, 2012, 01:34:36 PM

You know you are a football geek when that news makes your day. Really looking forward to learning a lot more about coverages and offensive reads and options. Very exciting!

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Reply #526 on: June 15, 2012, 01:53:21 PM

You know you are a football geek when that news makes your day. Really looking forward to learning a lot more about coverages and offensive reads and options. Very exciting!

I absolutely agree!
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Reply #527 on: June 15, 2012, 03:16:48 PM

You know you are a football geek when that news makes your day. Really looking forward to learning a lot more about coverages and offensive reads and options. Very exciting!

I don't expect I'll be able to subscribe to get the All 22 film, but I am hoping that at least one of the highlight shows uses it.

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Reply #528 on: June 15, 2012, 06:08:19 PM

Too bad I can't subscribe to a single team's games with All-22 LIVE. They have an online package for $35 to get all games of a single team, but it's only on-demand, after the fact, not live games.

But glad that the All-22 is going to be available. Wish the networks would show it.

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Reply #529 on: June 15, 2012, 06:39:55 PM

Well, we always sort of knew the reason they didn't release all-22 was because they suspected demand wasn't high enough for people to actually PAY for it.

Then, they found out otherwise.

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Reply #530 on: June 16, 2012, 01:58:42 AM

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Charley Casserly, a former general manager who was a member of the NFL's competition committee, says he voted against releasing All-22 footage because he worried that if fans had access, it would open players and teams up to a level of criticism far beyond the current hum of talk radio. Casserly believed fans would jump to conclusions after watching one or two games in the All 22, without knowing the full story.

That cracks me the fuck up.

"The FANS, they might be critical of our play! aieee!"

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Reply #531 on: June 16, 2012, 08:55:22 AM

That's the hilarious part to me as well, because with the entire coverage of the field, we would know the whole story. You can't jump to conclusions when you see what happened in front of your eyes.

Unless your gameplan was to fuck up a coverage, in which case, yeah you have a right to be criticized.  why so serious?

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Reply #532 on: June 16, 2012, 01:04:03 PM

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Charley Casserly, a former general manager who was a member of the NFL's competition committee, says he voted against releasing All-22 footage because he worried that if fans had access, it would open players and teams up to a level of criticism far beyond the current hum of talk radio. Casserly believed fans would jump to conclusions after watching one or two games in the All 22, without knowing the full story.

That cracks me the fuck up.

"The FANS, they might be critical of our play! aieee!"

Christ, like facts or knowledge will affect the mouth breathing slacktards that call into talk radio.  The fact that it's actually impossible to fully understand the game at the X and O level as it's currently shown on TV is part of the fucking problem with the sport.
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Reply #533 on: June 16, 2012, 01:08:51 PM

Ask a "big football fan" what an illegal shift is. More than half will have no clue.

People simply don't care about the X's and O's on a large scale. That's reserved for nerds like us.

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Reply #534 on: June 18, 2012, 03:12:11 PM

Speaking of Illegal Shifts. NFL showed 12 reporters the same stuff they showed the players today. Sounds damning.

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Reply #535 on: June 18, 2012, 03:36:43 PM

Hahaha they were complaining about no evidence?

There's an exhibit with the defensive players called "2010 Kill the Head Totals"

There's another where they hold up the actions of General Blackjack Pershing as a solid idea.

There's several where they detail the exact cash structure with names and events for the players getting bounties.

It just goes on and on and on. Even the slides where they don't say something about the bounties, you get a very accurate picture of exactly how stupid they really are in their everyday lives.

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Reply #536 on: June 18, 2012, 03:45:14 PM

Serious question, what IS an illegal shift?

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Reply #537 on: June 18, 2012, 03:49:04 PM

Serious question, what IS an illegal shift?

2 men in motion that don't become reset for a second before the ball gets snapped.

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Reply #538 on: June 18, 2012, 03:51:07 PM

Oh, we don't have that in the CFL  why so serious?

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Reply #539 on: June 19, 2012, 04:35:38 AM

Oh, we don't have that in the CFL  why so serious?

We know. You silly Canadians with your "cross the line of scrimmage at full tilt when the ball is snapped" wide receivers.


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Reply #540 on: July 17, 2012, 10:43:42 PM

Is it just me or has this been a particularly bad offseason for players getting arrested?

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Reply #541 on: July 18, 2012, 06:37:21 AM

Is it just me or has this been a particularly bad offseason for players getting arrested?

I believe there were over 40 in 2010. It went down in 2011, but we're roaring back in 12. A lot of it is because the recent ones are bigger names.

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Reply #542 on: July 18, 2012, 06:46:23 AM

Yeah, the incidents are surely getting a lot of press.  But it will be the NBA that still has all the thugs in the media's eye. 
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Reply #543 on: July 18, 2012, 08:15:13 AM

Dez Bryant smacks around his mama, Marshawn Lynch and a few others apparently can't afford taxis when they are out at "da club." So seriously, WTF? Hopefully going to be a lot of game checks forfeited this year.

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Reply #544 on: July 18, 2012, 08:32:02 AM

That doesn't even take into account all the Saints nonsense, which obviously contributes to the feeling of general douchiness in the NFL right now. 
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Reply #545 on: July 18, 2012, 08:35:58 AM

Every NFL team provides a car service to it's players specifically to avoid these kinds of things. Right now, 25 players have been arrested since the Super Bowl.

Here's a list: Ray McDonald, Rey Maualuga, JT Thomas, Mikel Leshoure, Nate Collins, Leroy Hill, Jarriel King, Mikel Leshoure (again, both for pot), Samson Satele, Koa Misi, Nick Fairley, Darrius Heyward-Bey, Brandon Meriweather, Caleb King, Nick Fairley (again!), Jerome Felton, Justin Blackmon, David Diehl, Aaron Berry, Muhammad Wilkerson, Eric Wright, Kiane Tripp, Adrian Peterson, Dion Lewis, Elvis Dumervil, Marshawn Lynch, and Dez Bryant.

Only 14 teams haven't had a player arrested. That means the majority have had an arrest.

Also, a shout out to David Diehl for being the lone honky on that list.

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Reply #546 on: July 18, 2012, 08:46:49 AM

Fuck Diehl for being a pro-Chief douchebag.

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Reply #547 on: July 18, 2012, 09:07:24 AM

Even if the NFL didn't provide a car service, a taxi is well within even the minimum league salaried player's means. It shows an incredible amount of stupidity to be caught driving drunk in this day and age as an NFL player. For a $30 taxi ride, you can avoid losing a game day check likely worth at least $50 grand.

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Reply #548 on: July 18, 2012, 09:20:13 AM

I'll look for the link, but I recall some discussion about the offered car service and it was considerably more expensive than a straight up cab ride. Moot point though, since no one seems to select either choice.

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Reply #549 on: July 18, 2012, 10:40:30 AM

It's $85/hr.

I think a lot of the issue (outside of stupidity of the players in question and those that haven't been caught) is the confusion of the program's existence and who's running what. I liked theose two articles on the issue. The first one was posted, and the second one was a response to the first article


http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/mike-freeman/19303326/nfl-to-remind-all-employees-this-is-dangerous-time-for-dui-offenses
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d829b6720/article/safe-rides-program-still-open-to-players-nflpa-says

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Reply #550 on: July 18, 2012, 10:44:01 AM

$85 an hour is nothing when you compare to the $1000 a night these guys will drop in a bar.

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Reply #551 on: July 18, 2012, 12:29:27 PM

And it looks like the union fucked it up partly because they were afraid teams were using it to spy on their players.

Sounds to me like the union needs to start finding a way to hammer into these meatheads skulls how much money stupid shit like drunk driving can cost them in fines and lost wages from game suspensions.

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Reply #552 on: July 18, 2012, 12:55:14 PM

Or explain how they could fucking kill someone and ruin their family's lives in addition to ending up in jail for a significant amount of time. 
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Reply #553 on: July 18, 2012, 03:13:50 PM

Or explain how they could fucking kill someone and ruin their family's lives in addition to ending up in jail for a significant amount of time. 

Impacting someone else's life will mean a lot less than "taking away a game check" to most of the assholes we're talking about. I mean Dez Bryant was beating up on his GODDAMN MOTHER. I'm sure he gives not one gram of fuck for someone else's life.

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Reply #554 on: July 18, 2012, 04:06:30 PM

To be fair, his mother is a reported drug addict and prostitute.

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Reply #555 on: July 18, 2012, 04:54:32 PM

She didn't have some, not half, but all his cash, obv.

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Reply #556 on: July 18, 2012, 09:21:59 PM

She didn't have some, not half, but all his cash, obv.

I doubt Dez is going to win any awards this year...
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Reply #557 on: July 19, 2012, 08:17:33 AM

Speaking of convicts, Michael Vick needs to shut his fucking mouth and win some football games. 

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They are going to be the dynasty of .500 if he keeps giving other teams bulletin board material.  What a fucking idiot.
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Reply #558 on: July 19, 2012, 08:57:33 AM

Hell, they won't even be 8-8 this season. Their schedule is a trainwreck of top tier teams.

Baltimore, Detroit, Pittsburgh, NYG, Atlanta, NO, and Cincy were all in the playoffs last year. That's 8 games right there against playoff opponents. Then you have to play an improved Tampa team on the road, and 2 games against Dallas who will be looking for revenge from losing both last season. There's maybe 5 easy games on that schedule. In fact, Red Zone ranked your schedule as the 6th toughest in the league.

GOOD LUCK!

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Reply #559 on: July 19, 2012, 09:00:11 AM

The Eagles could be very good.  They have a lot of talent.  But you got to, at a minimum, have a winning record before you start talking about dynasties, right?  awesome, for real
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