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Reply #175 on: March 19, 2014, 12:06:40 PM


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Reply #176 on: March 19, 2014, 12:12:35 PM

why so serious?
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Reply #177 on: March 19, 2014, 01:35:21 PM

Jerry might take him for one of our 5th rounders we never use.

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Reply #178 on: March 19, 2014, 01:59:17 PM

 awesome, for real



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Reply #179 on: March 19, 2014, 02:53:07 PM

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Peyton!

We would have made you a GOD here in TN!  Now you're just a stupid donkey. Oh who am I kidding, I'll still root for him to win another Super Bowl.

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Reply #180 on: March 19, 2014, 02:54:43 PM

If they find a dancing partner. I don't think the market looks that good for him now, and I think he might be just straight up cut when push comes to shove.

Even leaving aside the fact he did take a terrible Denver team and somehow get them not only into the playoffs, but to the AFC Championship game?  Tebow will dramatically increase the profile of any (shitty) team he goes to, increase viewership, and move merchandise....  at least until he's proven to be a bust.  He should be a steal for someone so they can flog Tebow-mania in the offseason to promote the brand, at the very least, as long as he isn't pricing himself too high.

When you consider how many mediocre or bad QBs get starting jobs?  I would be amazed if he wasn't sewn up pretty quickly.
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Reply #181 on: March 19, 2014, 02:56:59 PM

Problem with Tebow as a backup is that he doesn't strike me as a great system QB.  Backups are usually good as backups because they can slide in and do a respectable job.  Tebow doesn't strike me as that kind of guy, he did well in Denver last year because they overhauled the offense to fit him.
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Reply #182 on: March 19, 2014, 03:06:54 PM

The problem with bringing Tebow in as a backup is the fans. They will be SCREAMING for him to start the first time the starting QB throws an INT. It's the same damn reason he started over Brady Quinn in Denver even though Quinn was #2 on the depth chart - the fans were howling for him to start in training camp. No coach is going to want to put his starting QB through that (and himself as well in the press conferences he'll have to deal with) and if it's a young QB to boot (like Gabbert in Jacksonville), how damaging is that going to be to your confidence? Not to mention if you really want to make sure Tebow is usable, you really have to build a team around his skillset. He's such a unique player, you aren't going to do that if he's a backup, and as a backup, he'll be a completely different set of offensive plays to your starter. You don't bring him in as a backup, especially not if the reason you want him is to sell tickets.

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Reply #183 on: March 19, 2014, 03:23:14 PM

The fans in Jacksonville probably would pay to see him, but LA couldn't give two shits about Tebow and I still think that the Jaguars are betting on being in LA for the 2015 season.

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Reply #184 on: March 19, 2014, 03:26:07 PM

The problem with bringing Tebow in as a backup is the fans. They will be SCREAMING for him to start the first time the starting QB throws an INT.

As a Dallas fan, I fail to see the problem here. I hate my starter with the fire of a 1,000 suns.

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Reply #185 on: March 19, 2014, 03:32:03 PM

If they find a dancing partner. I don't think the market looks that good for him now, and I think he might be just straight up cut when push comes to shove.
Even leaving aside the fact he did take a terrible Denver team and somehow get them not only into the playoffs, but to the AFC Championship game?
Denver got crushed by the Patriots in a Divisional playoff game.
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Reply #186 on: March 19, 2014, 03:32:11 PM

If they find a dancing partner. I don't think the market looks that good for him now, and I think he might be just straight up cut when push comes to shove.

Even leaving aside the fact he did take a terrible Denver team and somehow get them not only into the playoffs, but to the AFC Championship game?  Tebow will dramatically increase the profile of any (shitty) team he goes to, increase viewership, and move merchandise....  at least until he's proven to be a bust.  He should be a steal for someone so they can flog Tebow-mania in the offseason to promote the brand, at the very least, as long as he isn't pricing himself too high.

When you consider how many mediocre or bad QBs get starting jobs?  I would be amazed if he wasn't sewn up pretty quickly.

Given that most teams know he'll probably be straight up CUT, there's no reason to sell the farm to get him. Plus, the tebow factor started to have diminishing returns towards the end of last season. It makes the team completely one dimensional. Given a full off-season to work out, I think he would get better, but the Tebow Offense would not work as well this next season as it did this one. And I think most teams know that. Also, the defense had a LOT to do with the success in those games. During the big stretch of wins, the Defense kept the opposing team to low enough points that last minute heroics would push the Broncos up over. It was definitely not "all tebow".

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Reply #187 on: March 19, 2014, 04:15:48 PM

Pats recruit him and retrain him as a Tight End. Calling it now.

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Reply #188 on: March 19, 2014, 05:07:08 PM

Pats recruit him and retrain him as a Tight End. Calling it now.

Belicheat worships Satan, so I'm thinking no.

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Reply #189 on: March 19, 2014, 05:16:40 PM

McDaniel's crush on Tebow may overwhelm Hobochek's satanism.

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Reply #190 on: March 19, 2014, 06:49:51 PM

Why not just keep Tebow and put him in for the 4th quarter every game?

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Reply #191 on: March 19, 2014, 07:02:20 PM

In a perfect world where tebowners and christians aren't crazy, that would be great. But, the Broncos are just going to want to move on from the circus. Imagine the craziness if Manning has one bad DOWN, let along bad quarter/game.

It's best to just move on and regain control over your own team.

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Reply #192 on: March 19, 2014, 07:07:31 PM

No he needs 3 quarters of sucking to warm up to the point where he can play decently for a quarter.

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Reply #193 on: March 19, 2014, 07:12:00 PM

Why not just keep Tebow and put him in for the 4th quarter every game?

Assuming this wasn't a troll post, I'll take a hurt Peyton Manning over Tebow in the 4th quarter of a game any day.
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Reply #194 on: March 19, 2014, 07:29:47 PM

No he needs 3 quarters of sucking to warm up to the point where he can play decently for a quarter.


Tebow needs a bullpen.

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Reply #195 on: March 19, 2014, 07:46:09 PM

No he needs 3 quarters of sucking to warm up to the point where he can play decently for a quarter.


Tebow needs a bullpen.

Or a fluffer.  why so serious?

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Reply #196 on: March 19, 2014, 07:53:36 PM

Jesus is his fluffer.

Wait.... no, that's about right.

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Reply #197 on: March 19, 2014, 08:06:10 PM

I thought Tebow was a fluffer, of a sort.   Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?
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Reply #198 on: March 19, 2014, 09:09:49 PM

If Alex Smith actually goes to the Dolphins, I will be forced to conclude he hates winning, and was completely depressed last season. He wants to get back into his comfort zone.

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Reply #199 on: March 19, 2014, 11:19:13 PM

Tebow should go to Jacksonville.  I mean, Blaine Gabbert really, really stinks.  It is also impossible to be a successful NFL QB with a name like Blaine Gabbert.  Seriously, though, Tebow would put people in the seats down there in the short term...though who knows if the new owner even cares about that at this point.

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Reply #200 on: March 20, 2014, 04:42:02 AM

Even leaving aside the fact he did take a terrible Denver team and somehow get them not only into the playoffs, but to the AFC Championship game?  

I don't think it's fair to say Denver was "terrible." They had the #1 rushing offense in the league and an average-ish defense.  I also don't think it's fair to say that the guy with a 45% completion percentage, 72.9 passer rating, and the absolute lowest pass yards per game of any of the 34 QBs listed on nfl.com's QB list http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/passingYardsPerGame carried the Broncos to the playoffs.    And they didn't go to the AFC Championship game; they lost 45-10 to the Pats in the second round.  Tebow had a statistically impressive first round win vs the Steelers, who had the league's #1 defense during the regular season.  They were, however, missing 4 out of 11 defensive starters for most of the game and totally sold out against the run almost every play.  Speaking of the Steelers, note that Kordell Stewart actually did "lead" a team to two AFC title games.

 
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Tebow will dramatically increase the profile of any (shitty) team he goes to, increase viewership, and move merchandise....  at least until he's proven to be a bust.  He should be a steal for someone so they can flog Tebow-mania in the offseason to promote the brand, at the very least, as long as he isn't pricing himself too high.

This is 100% true.  He could save the Jaguars, for example.  

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Reply #201 on: March 20, 2014, 04:44:02 AM

Pats recruit him and retrain him as a Tight End. Calling it now.

Belicheat worships Satan, so I'm thinking no.

How could he resist an opportunity to break the Nazarine? 

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Reply #202 on: March 20, 2014, 08:24:31 AM

It'll be interesting to see where the money falls, but so far no mention of guaranteed money in the reports of the final price tag of 5 years, $96M for Manning.

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Reply #203 on: March 20, 2014, 08:38:36 AM

I think Manning just wants to play and win a Superbowl.

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Reply #204 on: March 20, 2014, 09:09:13 AM

2012: 18M
2013-2014: 40M w/waver on neck
2015: 19M
2016: 19M

And yeah, apparently no guaranteed money. Allows broncos to cut him after 1 year if he's not healthy, or renegotiate.

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Reply #205 on: March 20, 2014, 09:47:11 AM

That's really a smart contract for both sides. Manning doesn't NEED the money and it's a good way to prove to the fans that he came to give them a Super Bowl, not fleece the franchise.

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Reply #206 on: March 20, 2014, 10:42:02 AM

Okay, so there is gauranteed money.... the $18 for the first year. Which is still a fantastic freaking deal for both sides.

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_20213659/peyton-mannings-deal-broncos-5-years-96-million

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Reply #207 on: March 20, 2014, 12:48:01 PM

The problem with bringing Tebow in as a backup is the fans. They will be SCREAMING for him to start the first time the starting QB throws an INT.

As a Dallas fan, I fail to see the problem here. I hate my starter with the fire of a 1,000 suns.

Hey man, you got Kyle Orton backing up Romo. You're covered.  awesome, for real

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Reply #208 on: March 20, 2014, 12:54:15 PM

I can't think of a team I'd wish Tebow on more than the Cowboys, I say they go for it.

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Reply #209 on: March 20, 2014, 01:08:11 PM

Tebow to the Raiders. COME ON!

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