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jakonovski
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Signs point to milquetoast patriotism ruining a good conspiracy. Coz America was supposed to be the Templars' grand experiment, but somehow it's now about Ezio Gibson stabbing redcoats.
edit: me pessimist? Never! Who the heck says 'milquetoast'? I think I recently saw some movie where it was used. It's 
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Tairnyn
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All of my knowledge of the AC universe is from the games, but isn't the Desmond storyline based on genetic inheritance? The images make the new main character look like a Native American, which I would think makes it highly unlikely he was descended from Ezio. Maybe his ethnicity is just an assumption based on the tomahawk, though.
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jakonovski
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All of my knowledge of the AC universe is from the games, but isn't the Desmond storyline based on genetic inheritance? The images make the new main character look like a Native American, which I would think makes it highly unlikely he was descended from Ezio. Maybe his ethnicity is just an assumption based on the tomahawk, though.
He could just have a baby with a descendant of Ezio to enter the bloodline, simple as that. But I think he is actually half-native so he might be a descendant himself too.
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Hawkbit
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Mohawk First Nations were trading with the Dutch in the area now known as New York by the early 1600s, iirc. That would be nearly 150 years of possibility for one of Ezio's ancestors to 'make contact' with their tribes.
I give the writers of AC a lot of credit. They create a very hard line between fact and fiction, and stick pretty close to it. Their historical timelines and settings are remarkably accurate to our history. However, the Animus/Progenitor storyline is obviously not.
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jakonovski
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The protagonist being a Mohawk whose familiy is attacked by colonists, and who then joins the American side even though other Mohawks fight on the British side because of encroachment by colonists, makes me really wonder what sort of a plot they've cooked up.
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tmp
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Game protagonist supposedly has an English father and Native American mother, and is then raised by the Mohawk. So it works i guess, with father's lineage tracking down to Ezio etc.
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Simond
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The protagonist being a Mohawk whose familiy is attacked by colonists, and who then joins the American side even though other Mohawks fight on the British side because of encroachment by colonists, makes me really wonder what sort of a plot they've cooked up. One where they're terrified of showing the Americans as the bad guys, looks like.
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The protagonist being a Mohawk whose familiy is attacked by colonists, and who then joins the American side even though other Mohawks fight on the British side because of encroachment by colonists, makes me really wonder what sort of a plot they've cooked up.
One where the plot is a hodgepodge of conspiracy theories, bad science and a shaky grasp of history. Just like all the others. 
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jakonovski
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Ezio Gibson, George "Freemason" Washington's trusted war counselor. This better be just a clever/retarded marketing campaign. 
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Ceryse
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Probably be something like Washington and the others found out the grand conspiracy and the main reason they lead the rebellion is to fight back against it, making them good Freemasons because making Washington into the bad guy = treason (sadly this is what I've been told by some, I didn't argue it for reasons of sanity). As such, Ezio Gibson and the Mohawk assassin cadre can ally with them. Or something.
Stuff like this makes me glad I don't buy Ubisoft games due to DRM.
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Ruvaldt
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This looks dumber with every screenshot.
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Chimpy
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So they give the guy the last name "Gibson" and they make a piece of in-game art that is basically an exact replica of Mel Gibson in The Patriot wearing a hood. This can only end well. 
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jakonovski
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The dude's name is actually Connor, I just like to call him Ezio Gibson.
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tmp
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Yah; Connor or Ratohnhake:ton (pronounced Ra-doon-ha-gay-doo) whatever that means.
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Sheepherder
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All of my knowledge of the AC universe is from the games, but isn't the Desmond storyline based on genetic inheritance? The images make the new main character look like a Native American, which I would think makes it highly unlikely he was descended from Ezio. Maybe his ethnicity is just an assumption based on the tomahawk, though. You can have more than one ancestor in a given time period. If you need a reason to hate, that's not it. Apparently Hitler was Haplotype E1b1b. Man would that jaunt into the Animus ever be awkward. Speaking of awesome (native american) names, some of the local Ojibwe have the last name " Wendigo."
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« Last Edit: March 04, 2012, 02:19:09 PM by Sheepherder »
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Tairnyn
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Oh, don't get me wrong, there's no hate. My only knowledge of the AC universe is Desmond, Ezio, and Altair so I was curious about the jump to Native American.
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Sheepherder
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I knew it was hyperbole as I was typing it.
I've only played the first game, so I'm not up to date on the pseudoscientific reasoning behind the frank impossibility of storing entire lifetimes of data in DNA. But really, the explanation is as easy as his Iroquois grandma and his Italian grandpa meeting at an all-assassin's mixer and hitting it off.
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Sir T
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This demands a "Hitler finds out" video.
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Tebonas
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Fucking pussies. If they are too cowardly to piss off Americans, they should just have left this era alone. The lore of this game series was always suspect at best, but this is beyond retarded.
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The hood really couldn't look more out of place.
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tmp
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So, supposedly "Set against the backdrop of the American Revolution in the late 18th century, Assassin’s Creed III introduces a new hero, Ratohnaké:ton, of Native American and English heritage. Adopting the name Connor, he becomes the new voice for justice in the ancient war between the Assassins and Templars. Players become an Assassin in the war for liberty against ruthless tyranny in the most stylized and fluid combat experiences in the franchise to date. Assassin’s Creed III spans the Revolutionary War, taking gamers from the vibrant, untamed frontier to bustling colonial towns and the intense, chaotic battlefields where George Washington’s Continental Army clashed with the imposing British Army.”
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Tebonas
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As I said, cowards.
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Ingmar
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Fucking pussies. If they are too cowardly to piss off Americans, they should just have left this era alone. The lore of this game series was always suspect at best, but this is beyond retarded.
Because the only possible story to tell is one that would piss off Americans?  Also there are a TON of conclusions being jumped to here. It isn't like this series has a habit of trying to pull good-guy/bad-guy switches on you or anything, am I right?
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« Last Edit: March 05, 2012, 10:59:56 AM by Ingmar »
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Lakov_Sanite
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Players become an Assassin in the war for liberty against ruthless tyranny Suspiciously vague. They don't say who you are fighting WITH against tyranny and as just said above I fully expect Connor to NOT know Washington is a mason until near the end. This whole thing reeks of "rah rah americuh!....just kidding, you were working with that bad guys, what a twist!"
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Tebonas
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If that was the case I wouldn't wait till the 75% sale to buy this game.  Edit: It is a story about Assassins fighting Templars, Ingmar. You really would have to ignore every Freemason conspiracy theory ever uttered by anybody to not see the Founding Fathers in the Freemasons corner. For fucks sake, there even is a George Washington Masonic Memorial. Its like making a game about a Jaguar Warrior fighting for the Conquistadors.
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« Last Edit: March 05, 2012, 11:30:17 AM by Tebonas »
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tmp
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This whole thing reeks of "rah rah americuh!....just kidding, you were working with that bad guys, what a twist!"
That could be a sensible way to work around that whole idea of the States being all templar doing and whatnot, yah.
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jakonovski
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It isn't like this series has a habit of trying to pull good-guy/bad-guy switches on you or anything, am I right?
Actually I don't think it has happened since the first one. If anything the villains have become stupider in every iteration.
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Ingmar
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If that was the case I wouldn't wait till the 75% sale to buy this game.  Edit: It is a story about Assassins fighting Templars, Ingmar. You really would have to ignore every Freemason conspiracy theory ever uttered by anybody to not see the Founding Fathers in the Freemasons corner. For fucks sake, there even is a George Washington Masonic Memorial. Its like making a game about a Jaguar Warrior fighting for the Conquistadors. No, it's like making a trailer about a game that looks like it might be about that, and getting all angry without knowing what is actually in the game at all.
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rk47
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101% agreed. I wanted to do it over too but you beat me to it. 
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Bann
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I've never played any of the Assassin's Creed games before. My birthday is around the corner, and I was asked for a birthday gift idea. I'm noticing that these are all the previous editions pretty cheap these days, so does anyone have an opinion on where to enter the series? If this first one is decent and sets the stage well, I'll start there. If one the later ones is just head and shoulders above anything that came before, I'd rather pickup that one and read spoilers on what happened previously. (Im looking to play on ps3, if that matters at all.)
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Minvaren
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AC1 is a little unpolished, but a couple of patches help with that. For $5 to $10, it's definitely not a bad place to start.
side rant : What the heck is it with the bombs in AC:R? They're amusing and occasionally helpful, but the emphasis on them seems a bit over-the-top...
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« Last Edit: March 12, 2012, 09:26:03 AM by Minvaren »
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"There are many things of which a wise man might wish to remain ignorant." - Ralph Waldo Emerson
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