Noob questions

[Fordel]

Once I got Elara I never looked back. She's wearing crit/surge gear. I've gotten her to a point where I turn off her actual cast time heal and put her in dps stance unless I'm doing something silly like a Heroic 4.

[Ironwood]

Maybe I'lll use the ship droid, since he has no gear at all.

 

[Nevermore]

Oh, but he does need gear! 

I realize you said that as a joke, but I'm going to complain about something anyway.  The worst thing they ever did with that droid (besides talking too much) was to not let him hold a weapon.  This means he'll constantly run up to enemies and attempt to punch them in between casting heals. 

[DraconianOne]

Wait... you actually use him as a companion? In combat?

[Fordel]

He used to be just as effective as all the other NPC healers at healing and some classes don't get a healer till like level 40ish.

[Zetor]

Is this the right time to mention how much Lokin sucks? 

[Fordel]

It's always the right time for that.

He's terrible.

[Sjofn]

Lokin totally sucks, yes.

[Raguel]

Fought 3 assassins at once today on my shadow and killed one of them. Nearly killed 1 of a jug/operative duo but time ran out. I guess I figured out what I was doing wrong: I never popped this shadow defense ability (forgot the name) that increases force/tech resistance to 100% for 6 seconds. So now, unless I'm playing against others who are super twinked, I just wreck shop. I almost feel bad for being so twinked myself, but not enough to stop. 

I am having problems with people who kite me tho. I'm not sure what's going on but one person seemed to be moving backward almost as fast as I was moving forward. I've run out of easy buttons so I have to click on force speed or slow. I need another hand to play this game effectively lol.

[koro]

As far as people running faster than they should be, there's been some speedhacking going on in PvP recently. I know the Reddit Empire guild on Shadowlands has had full PvP groups that have been doing it. It's why that warning about exploiting was on the launcher for a while.

[Ironwood]

Heat Blast seems like utter shit.  Am I wrong ?

[Fordel]

Heat Blast seems like utter shit.  Am I wrong ?

Yes.


It's not only free (off the GCD and no resource cost), it actually generates resources for you, keeping you in the golden zone of ammo regen (or heat venting for BH).

[Raguel]

U GAIS

I have an extra stun (spinning kick) I didn't know about via shadow tank skill tree. I thought it was from stealth only but I already took the ability that made it any time; and now I do 3% more damage to anyone I use it on.    OH GOD what if tumult works off that? I should log on and check

[Nevermore]

Tumult doesn't work against other players.

[Raguel]

Tumult doesn't work against other players.

LOL yeah. I thought I was doing something wrong until someone told me that.

[Raguel]

So I need help picking my next class to pvp with. Choices are: sage (heals), gunslinger, vanguard, operative (mostly if not all dps). Operative has already been made, and I have one slot available for the other. On one hand I'd really like to see how I do as sage healer but I also think I'd prefer to do more dps. Vanguard because they seem to do more damage than my shadow (although I do tend to get stuck with guard duty a lot).

[Sjofn]

Vanguard is capable of being loltastic last I heard? Maybe not any more, I really haven't kept up with it.

[Ironwood]

Heat Blast seems like utter shit.  Am I wrong ?

Yes.


It's not only free (off the GCD and no resource cost), it actually generates resources for you, keeping you in the golden zone of ammo regen (or heat venting for BH).

Nah, I get all that and sure, that's great stuff, but for a top level power, I was expecting something a bit more 'wow' than my pulling out my dick at waist level and going 'pewpew' in the most comical fashion ever.

It's not a big damager and the range is shit.  I've stuck it into the rotation, but I'm a little annoyed that I have to couple it with the flamey thing in order to keep my absorption shield up.

I'll get used to it.


On a somewhat related note, I have now tried all 4 base classes on the Empire side and I have a question :

Why is it that no Star Wars game has managed to do Jedi or the Force even half as well as they do large fucking lasers ?  Both the bounty hunter and agent are far, far, far more fun than the Inquisitor or Warrior to play and it's kind of a shame.  I'm finding that running around smacking people with my glowing lolly as my Juggernaut is nowhere near as satisfying as the firepower I can bring to bear as the others, even as a sub level 10 agent.

Sad face.

[DraconianOne]

Because Sith/Jedi are crap.

That being said, the force power I do like is the Consular's infamous "Project" because hurling a large rock or droid body or something at a mob is always quite satisfying. And I'm enjoying playing a very Dark Side inquisitor because I keep trying to get Khem Val to eat people and that amuses me.  I've made the mistake with my Marauder of going light side though so I've already taken Vette's shock collar off. I should probably reroll...

[Sjofn]

I find the marauder (SW) and assassin (SI) a lot more fun than the juggernaut and sorcerer gameplay-wise, for what it's worth. My favorite varies on what you're asking me to do, though. The only force user I actively dislike at all times is the sorcerer/sage.

[SnakeCharmer]

Because Sith/Jedi are crap.

That being said, the force power I do like is the Consular's infamous "Project" because hurling a large rock or droid body or something at a mob is always quite satisfying. And I'm enjoying playing a very Dark Side inquisitor because I keep trying to get Khem Val to eat people and that amuses me.  I've made the mistake with my Marauder of going light side though so I've already taken Vette's shock collar off. I should probably reroll...

Nah, don't reroll.  Warrior with some LS options yields some spectacular mindfucks later in the storyline.

e:  Going pure LS gets you all sorts of great responses from everyone.  It's like they can't figure out what the hell is going on.

[DraconianOne]

Sold - I will stick with it. Makes up for my very neutral Guardian who managed to get the DS role in the Esseles, pissing off at least two people who didn't want the Backstabber title. 

[Raguel]

I find the marauder (SW) and assassin (SI) a lot more fun than the juggernaut and sorcerer gameplay-wise, for what it's worth. My favorite varies on what you're asking me to do, though. The only force user I actively dislike at all times is the sorcerer/sage.

I like my heals sorc but, like I told some other players, my shadow may very well be my first 50 I play after max level. The only thing I fear now are well played (read: those who hop around like popcorn) assassins and operatives   Heck I may even buy the expansion. 

[SnakeCharmer]

Sold - I will stick with it. Makes up for my very neutral Guardian who managed to get the DS role in the Esseles, pissing off at least two people who didn't want the Backstabber title. 

Only read this if you want a little something spoiled:

[Sjofn]

I find the marauder (SW) and assassin (SI) a lot more fun than the juggernaut and sorcerer gameplay-wise, for what it's worth. My favorite varies on what you're asking me to do, though. The only force user I actively dislike at all times is the sorcerer/sage.

I like my heals sorc but, like I told some other players, my shadow may very well be my first 50 I play after max level. The only thing I fear now are well played (read: those who hop around like popcorn) assassins and operatives   Heck I may even buy the expansion. 

Healing sorc/sage isn't a bad class, don't get me wrong. It's just I've basically played that class for many years in other MMO's and I am tired of it (I also am not much of a mage player, so the DPS version doesn't excite me either, and probably also why I am not wild about, say, gunslingers). The trooper and smuggler healers are much more interesting to me, because they are more novel. That's all!

[Fordel]

Vanguard is capable of being loltastic last I heard? Maybe not any more, I really haven't kept up with it.

Assault Spec vanguards are the spiritual successor to zerkers and doublefrost math yes.


If this is lowbie PvP, Balance Sages are really fun and can basically command how a battle will play out.





Ironwood, pretty much all the top tier talents are like that, just things to smooth the spec out. Not going to find any real I-win buttons or anything really.

[Raguel]

assault vanguard inc then!

[Ironwood]

Fair enough.  I just wish the graphic effect was better.  It really does look like my Hunter suddenly got a Premature Ejaculation problem with a strange dildo.

[Lantyssa]

Only read this if you want a little something spoiled:

[Merusk]

Why is it that no Star Wars game has managed to do Jedi or the Force even half as well as they do large fucking lasers ? 

Game Designers.

Few would play anything BUT Jedi if they weren't neutered in some way.  Designers like balance and for everyone to play all classes (or else it's wasted resources, right?)  so they nerf popular shit and buff unpopular. 

C'mon, did you REALLY use any of Kyle Katarn's other weapons once you got the saber, or was it slice & dice, force-choke-a-bitch 100% of the time?

[DraconianOne]

C'mon, did you REALLY use any of Kyle Katarn's other weapons once you got the saber, or was it slice & dice, force-choke-a-bitch 100% of the time?

Hell yes! Sniping with that one shot disruptor rifle was awesome!  

But... I take your point. When sniping was out of the option it was force-grab, force-hold-as-a-living-shield, force-knock-the-other-fuckers-off-with-the-body

EDIT: and to be fair, the SWTOR jedi are based on the prequel jedi who run away from droids with forcefields because they can't rip it to bits with the Force through the forcefields.  

[Ironwood]

Not sure I buy that argument.

[PalmTrees]

To do lightsabers justice you have to actually kill people or at least chop off a bit of them with every hit. In the Clone Wars cartoon it's one swing and a droid or two cut in half with the edges glowing with heat. That power (and the sound effects) is what makes lightsabers cool. Too powerful for a game, so you get to whack people with a glow stick instead.

[eldaec]

Not really.

They are less interesting than ranged guys because the animations are a bit crap and a bit slow. Also abilities are kind of dumbed down so you never get any synergies going on.

Also all the classes would be more fun if you were fighting bigger groups of weaker mobs.

[Raguel]

There's one assassin that I fight periodically that spams this ability where he's twirling his saber and (apparently) doing AE damage. I have an AE ability but I don't think it's anywhere near as powerful. I have about 16k hp in sub50 and he took me down to about 60% just by spamming that thing.