Pre-release thread discussion

[Furiously]

My wife just gave me a CE for my birthday. Anyone want a mice ass?

[Evildrider]

[VainEldritch]

I believe someone earlier was complaining about Khem not being customizable.  That was fixed with the recent patch:

Also, on Balmora in the Sobik canitina there is a Companion Customization vendor with several new options for Khem Val (and others).

I went for Khem Val Customization 10 - which puts the big guy in some pretty cool heavy armor so he actually looks like a tank and not some insane native muscle-man (though he still takes a dirt nap every fight  ).

Mind you, cost 10,000 credits which blows a pretty big hole in one's "My First Speeder" savings account (unless you have the CE JockSTAP).

[Tannhauser]

After playing the beta, I'm soooo glad I bought the version with the speeder bike.

[Merusk]

Yeah, I hadn't thought it was going to be that big a deal.  That they'd go the WoW route and make the skill expensive but the vehicle cheap. Surprise!

[Wolf]

has anyone even whined how ridicolously hard it is to buy that game in "red zoned" countries? You have to buy through proxies, vpns, friends in the white world, etc... 

[Cyrrex]

In Soviet Russia, game downloads you!

Someone surely complained about it in the thread already, but what is the deal with the blue/black color crystal?  Surely that cannot be the one we are getting in Live.  I had envisioned something that I could make change into any color in the spectrum, not this horrible thing that makes my lightsaber look exactly the same as the stupid practice saber.  Seriously, that isn't even a real lightsaber color. 

[Zetor]

has anyone even whined how ridicolously hard it is to buy that game in "red zoned" countries? You have to buy through proxies, vpns, friends in the white world, etc...  

As a Hungarian, I'm pretty jaded about the whole thing. Back in 2004 you couldn't buy WOW-US or pay for a sub unless you had a US billing address for your credit card (!), so my guildmaster bought it for me and sent me the serial#; I downloaded the game 'somehow' (maybe I upgraded from the beta, I can't recall) and switched the CC info with mine. Ditto with BC. Thankfully they eased up after BC's release, but yeah. Amazingly enough, SWTOR is available in Hungary, and I was able to buy it through origin (that I won't actually need to touch since I can just upgrade the client from the beta version).

My personal peeve is with bethesda games btw. In Hungary/Poland/Slovakia/Czech Rep Cenega made a monopoly deal with Bethesda, so your options are
- buy a shitty localization through cenega (with a built-in 3+ month delay... I'm not exaggerating btw, the Lonesome Road DLC is still not available here)
- use VPN trickery and buy through steam / greenmangaming / etc
- import a physical copy (lol no)
- don't buy the games at all and torrent them instead or something
Gee, I wonder which of those options the average hungarian gamer will choose.  

edit: made the post a bit more palatable

[Maledict]

In Soviet Russia, game downloads you!

Someone surely complained about it in the thread already, but what is the deal with the blue/black color crystal?  Surely that cannot be the one we are getting in Live.  I had envisioned something that I could make change into any color in the spectrum, not this horrible thing that makes my lightsaber look exactly the same as the stupid practice saber.  Seriously, that isn't even a real lightsaber color. 

Basically, just pretend the crystal doesn't exist. The colour suck and the stat bonus isn't worth using it even as a mad min-maxer - it's only endurance after all which is the least valuable stat. Even for tanks it's not worth it.

[01101010]

Blaster beams with that crystal aren't all that bad. But yeah, the saber looks silly.

[Wolf]

has anyone even whined how ridicolously hard it is to buy that game in "red zoned" countries? You have to buy through proxies, vpns, friends in the white world, etc...  

As a Hungarian, I'm pretty jaded about the whole thing. Back in 2004 you couldn't buy WOW-US or pay for a sub unless you had a US billing address for your credit card (!), so my guildmaster bought it for me and sent me the serial#; I downloaded the game 'somehow' (maybe I upgraded from the beta, I can't recall) and switched the CC info with mine. Ditto with BC. Thankfully they eased up after BC's release, but yeah. Amazingly enough, SWTOR is available in Hungary, and I was able to buy it through origin (that I won't actually need to touch since I can just upgrade the client from the beta version).

Well, WoW US is US, it's a different thing. I'm not saying they should forbid you to buy it, but SWTOR is actually launching in Europe. We're even in the fucking european union. Fuck the serbs and turks and whatever, EU reperesent right? Up top Hungary! Guys? Hey? 

[luckton]

So apparently Wal-Mart really did cancel every CE pre-order they had.  Couple questions...

- How is the person that will get fired over this going to get a new job?

- Who the fuck pre-orders shit from Wal-Mart?

[Merusk]

So apparently Wal-Mart really did cancel every CE pre-order they had.  Couple questions...

- How is the person that will get fired over this going to get a new job?

- Who the fuck pre-orders shit from Wal-Mart?

Wait, what?  I hadn't heard that one.. wow.

As for who pre-orders from Wal-Mart;  Move out of a city sometime, Wal-Mart will be the ONLY big-box store within an hour's drive.   I live within 10 mins of the ONLY Best Buy in Northern Kentucky.   Anyone south of me between Lexington and Cincinnati has to use that store or a Wal-Mart. (Of which there is only one I know of between here and Lexington)   That's a very, very large area and this is hardly the only state like that.

[eldaec]

I really don't understand the logic of charging credits for companion customisation.

It is an inherently out of character process.

[Merusk]

You're buying them a make-over. (or a new paint job)

[Sjofn]

Eh, it's a fine moneysink. I'd rather spend credits on that than other shit, really.

[Sky]

Yay walmart wastelands. Hey, we have a gamestop, too. Both equally useless, steam or amazon are the only way to get games (well, and gog).

New swtor.com error is smirkable:

[murdoc]

Yeah, I hadn't thought it was going to be that big a deal.  That they'd go the WoW route and make the skill expensive but the vehicle cheap. Surprise!

I didn't look too much at the skill and speeders, but I thought the skill was 40k and the Bike was 4k...? Did they change that?

[Evildrider]

I think they doubled the cost of the speeder recently. 

[Dark_MadMax]

Based on 2nd weekend experience I definitively gonna stay away from republic. Those incompetent sugary  morons ! I though some empire dark side options were over the top , but at least they were entertaining. Republic light side is all holier than thou bullshit. And its actually immersion breaking because your avatar of holiness slaughters innocent people by thousands ( like justicars). Empire is consistent and while evil can be caricaturic at times but still  fun. Yeah and Lord Zash >> Shatele

[Draegan]

The more you know:  You get 25% of a group mate's xp reward when they turn in a quest.  Supposedly it makes up for the reduced kill xp.

[koro]

The more you know:  You get 25% of a group mate's xp reward when they turn in a quest.  Supposedly it makes up for the reduced kill xp.

And you get 50% of a group mate's xp when they complete an optional objective. For instance, in a heroic 4-man mission, my group could finish a stage of a bonus objective set that gives 2500 xp per person. Each person will get the 2500 from their own, and the 1250 from each party member.

This some times ends up being more XP than the final mission reward.

[Draegan]

They nerfed that from 50 to 25 I believe.

[Numtini]

Based on 2nd weekend experience I definitively gonna stay away from republic. Those incompetent sugary  morons ! I though some empire dark side options were over the top , but at least they were entertaining. Republic light side is all holier than thou bullshit. And its actually immersion breaking because your avatar of holiness slaughters innocent people by thousands ( like justicars). Empire is consistent and while evil can be caricaturic at times but still  fun. Yeah and Lord Zash

Yeah SWTOR taught me that it's ok to go out and slaughter primitive peoples and loot their corpses for my own benefit, as long as I do so without any emotion.

The non-jedi options are a little bit better as it does seem more plausible. With jedi but they're lumbered with the Galactic Gasbag's suppression of emotion idiocy that he came up with after dropping peyote with Joe Campbell. Add that to the "kill stuff and loot the bodies" mechanic of a DIKU and it really adds up to 

[tmp]

Republic light side is all holier than thou bullshit.

They aren't hollier than thou, they're simply right

[Lucas]

http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/12/05/star-wars-the-old-republic-beta-test-attracts-2-million-players/

[Pezzle]

Yeah, I hadn't thought it was going to be that big a deal.  That they'd go the WoW route and make the skill expensive but the vehicle cheap. Surprise!

The level 40 speeder skill is 200k.  Speeders at that level cost 25-55k.  Be sure you plan ahead! 

[koro]

Yeah, I hadn't thought it was going to be that big a deal.  That they'd go the WoW route and make the skill expensive but the vehicle cheap. Surprise!

The level 40 speeder skill is 200k.  Speeders at that level cost 25-55k.  Be sure you plan ahead!  

And unless things have changed dramatically, the speed increase is basically negligible. Last I saw, you only got a 10-20% increase in speed compared to the normal level 25 mount for, what? Five times the cost? You're basically paying an enormous premium to unlock the ability to ride a speeder whose biggest benefit is that it doesn't look like a lawn mower.

Epic riding this ain't.

[Pezzle]

Correct.  90% for the first speeder set.  100% for the second.  Custom speeders (cybertech) did not give a performance boost either.  I never managed to get mine built so I cannot comment on them being interesting looking.  Perhaps the next tier custom rides are better. 

[Sky]

Thank you for your participation in the Star Wars™: The Old Republic™ Game Testing Program. In preparation for the game's official release, if you are receiving this email, you must uninstall the game-testing client before installing the launch game client.

[murdoc]

Thank you for your participation in the Star Wars™: The Old Republic™ Game Testing Program. In preparation for the game's official release, if you are receiving this email, you must uninstall the game-testing client before installing the launch game client.

They really need to work on the emails they send out...

We encourage anyone who has taken part in our Game Testing Program prior to the November 25th Beta Weekend to uninstall their previous client before installing the final Game Client

http://www.swtor.com/preorder/faq#uninstall

[Mrbloodworth]

2 million testers. All need to re-download. 

[Montague]

2 million testers. All need to re-download. 

It's as if terabytes of data suddenly cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced.

[Lucas]

World PvP on Tatooine (if you can look past lag/framerate issues, that is :P) :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkZmemH3sVM

[eldaec]

Eh, it's a fine moneysink. I'd rather spend credits on that than other shit, really.

If it were just gear and hairstyles it would make sense, but if you are changing the colour and features of the person/creature it kind of needs to be available when you first meet them. Going around with Vette as a blue twilek for 10 levels, then paying 10k to dye her yellow and perform facial reconstruction just seems weird.