(Not) Fun with Alcohol

[Lantyssa]

Mashed potatoes and squash are my two worst ones, with overcooked veggies running close behind.  Fresh mushrooms and veggies are usually firm enough for me.  But I totally get it.

[tgr]

Gagging for me is more dependent upon texture than taste, but I find a lot of things simply inedible that others love.

I used to have the worst problem with anything meaty unless it was processed meat, it just turned into chewing gum in my mouth and just made me throw up after a few minutes of chewing. Thankfully that's gone away the last 10 years, with only the absolute worst of rubbery meats eliciting that kind of reaction.

It's not fun, especially if you've got to explain it to someone who doesn't have any gag-reflexes at all.

[Reg]

Creamed corn. Just thinking about it makes me want to gag.

I was a horrible picky eater when I was a kid and my father was the type who felt he had to be a hardass and force me to eat my vegetables. I have few pleasant memories of family dinners.

[Minvaren]

To be fair, I eat dumplings at Asian restaurants.  The ones I was referring to were my grandmother's - a meatball wrapped in a piece of bread.

Soggy bread = 

[squirrel]

I do, too, until there's a cute girl involved.  Then all bets are off.

Water, fat and sleep.  I don't know which part of it works best, but all in combination works great.

This is essentially my perfect weekend.

[squirrel]

You know what's better than vitamin B pills?
Marmite Vegemite sandwiches. 

Barbarian.

[Strazos]

Gagging for me is more dependent upon texture than taste, but I find a lot of things simply inedible that others love.

I used to have the worst problem with anything meaty unless it was processed meat, it just turned into chewing gum in my mouth and just made me throw up after a few minutes of chewing. Thankfully that's gone away the last 10 years, with only the absolute worst of rubbery meats eliciting that kind of reaction.

I get that sometimes too, but usually when the meat is way over-cooked. I get this a lot with flank steak, which I cannot eat if it's not properly marinated and rare.

[Sky]

A lot of it can probably be attributed directly to my penchant to want to nibble on stuff when I'm home nights/weekends, so I guess that's out now.

Carrots, radishes, celery, and nuts are your best friends. 

I snack a lot.  I just try to keep a lot of fresh veggies around.  That and drink more water.  It reduces the cravings.

Watch nuts. Very densely-packed with calories, and you should stick with lower-fat nuts. Hit the almonds, not the cashews. Emerald has an almond baked with cocoa powder that's great. I also snack constantly, could up my veggie snacking a bit but I eat a lot of fruit. Love this time of year, so many good, fresh, local apples. Fresh corn about a mile up the road at a farm stand. Hell, just a couple plants in planters made my summer better (tomatoes and basil).

I think we've gone down this conversational fork in the workout thread :)

Try freezing fruits if it's ever a texture thing. I eat tons of frozen grapes, pineapple and blueberries.

Love a bowl of frozen grapes and a book by the fire or out on the patio on a sunny day.

I was a picky eater when I was a kid, I couldn't even eat our home-made pizza because it had too many veggies! Now, I love discovering "new" foods. I just had a fucking peach for the first time a couple weeks ago! I've also found I feel a lot better after pounding down a pound of trout than a pound of beef rib steak. I still love beef, but there are so many other great animal proteins out there that it just naturally turned into a once every couple weeks thing, to make room for the others in our menu.

[Nebu]

Fresh corn about a mile up the road at a farm stand.

Keep in mind that both corn and peas are carbs and not veggies. 

[Sky]

That doesn't stop corn on the grill from being awesome 

[Merusk]

Fresh corn about a mile up the road at a farm stand.

Keep in mind that both corn and peas are carbs and not veggies. 

Well shit. I did not know that. For 37 years they've been on the vegetable list of everything I've seen.

So then, what are veggies as everything these days is "no, not really."  Just leafy greens? "Eat your veggies" should be relabeled to "eat lettuce and spinach?"

[MuffinMan]

Then you start getting into vegetables that botanically are actually fruits. I prefer to just say "eat your plants" and be done with it.

[Nebu]

Corn and peas taste good because they're loaded with carbs.  I consider something a veggie if it has a high fiber/digestible carb ratio. 

Example: A small ear of corn has about 70 Cal.  An equal amount of celery or cucumber would be about 5 Cal. 

It's still fewer Cal than a potato, pasta, or rice and does contain some fiber.  I just consider corn to fulfill a carb role due to its relatively low nutrient value.

Hope that helps.

[Furiously]

If you hate the texture try juicing your fruits and veggies.

Try watching http://www.fatsickandnearlydead.com/.

[Lantyssa]

So then, what are veggies as everything these days is "no, not really."  Just leafy greens? "Eat your veggies" should be relabeled to "eat lettuce and spinach?"

Ketchup.

[Merusk]

Imma beat you with this Elephant trunk I just found.

[DraconianOne]

Corn and peas taste good because they're loaded with carbs.  I consider something a veggie if it has a high fiber/digestible carb ratio. 

Example: A small ear of corn has about 70 Cal.  An equal amount of celery or cucumber would be about 5 Cal. 

It's still fewer Cal than a potato, pasta, or rice and does contain some fiber.  I just consider corn to fulfill a carb role due to its relatively low nutrient value.

Hope that helps.

When you say peas, are you talking like green peas or is it an Americanism for something else? Because yeah, peas have a lot more carbs relatively than, say, spinach but it's loaded with nutrients.

[Sky]

That post prompted my fiancee to tell me that my beloved green beans are just fiber and water  Then that corn is a 2, peas are a 1 (peas I'm assuming the american peas out of pod), and green beans are freeeee.

[DraconianOne]

Then that corn is a 2, peas are a 1 (peas I'm assuming the american peas out of pod), and green beans are freeeee.

The devil is 6 and god is 7?

[Sky]

Sorry, weight watchers system. Pretty interesting and it mostly works out, though it can be odd in some instances.

[Merusk]

Oh good.  I've always had a thing for fresh green beans, lima beans and peas.  Corn seems to be everyone's favorite but it's just a once in a while thing for me... and even then I only enjoy it on the cob.

So what are Lima Beans, Sky?

[Strazos]

What about steam soy beans, still in the pod (but not eating the pod, blech)?

[Ingmar]

If it has 'bean' in the name, no, it isn't a 'vegetable' nutritionally for the most part, except for green beans.

Beans *are* extremely good for you though. Very high in protein and fiber, not all that many carbs compared to their weight, very low fat, etc. Pretty much essential if you're going to go vegetarian, given the amino acids you'll be missing from meat.

[Furiously]

Other tip... Replace all meat with Turkey, chicken or lean pork.

I've been on the http://www.the17daydiet.com/ for a couple months. Lost like 20 lbs when I first started. Been cheating a lot lately, but I'm maintaining and feeling like I have a lot more energy.  I should just go back to phase 1 and lose another 20 and be in a healthy place.

[Nebu]

Other tip... Replace all meat with Turkey, chicken or lean pork.

Lean pork?  Is there such a thing?  The only lean red meat I can think of is bison. 

[Ingmar]

Other tip... Replace all meat with Turkey, chicken or lean pork.

Lean pork?  Is there such a thing?  The only lean red meat I can think of is bison. 

Pork tenderloin, for one. I think it is 4% fat or so.

[Sky]

Other tip... Replace all meat with Turkey, chicken or lean pork.

Don't forget fish! I'm still a bit hesitant in my explorations under the sea, but I grew up on fresh trout and can get a pretty decent (albeit fatty) slab o steelhead trout from the local fish shop. But I haven't ventured beyond the basics: shrimp, cod, halibut, salmon, scallops. I did have some mussels or similar bivalve at the good local restaurant and really liked them as well.

[Lantyssa]

Lean pork?  Is there such a thing?  The only lean red meat I can think of is bison. 

Venison.

[Ingmar]

I should mention ostrich too, it tastes fantastic and is very healthy stuff.

[Lantyssa]

Nutria?  Not sure how healthy it actually is.

[Paelos]

Nutria?  Not sure how healthy it actually is.

I know Cajuns that eat them. Then again, they will eat anything that moves if you have the right hot sauce.

[Lantyssa]

Pretty much, yeah.

[Merusk]

Yeah.. why not stick to the meats you can easily get in the Midwest when offering suggestions.   That means pork, chicken and beef.  Even finding ground turkey can be a chore where I'm at.  (Though If I'm willing to spend almost a quarter tank of gas to drive to the north end of town I can find it easily as that's where the more progressive folks are holed-up.)

[Sand]

Yeah.. why not stick to the meats you can easily get in the Midwest when offering suggestions.   That means pork, chicken and beef.  Even finding ground turkey can be a chore where I'm at.  (Though If I'm willing to spend almost a quarter tank of gas to drive to the north end of town I can find it easily as that's where the more progressive folks are holed-up.)

You can get Bison in most grocery stores now, at least ground. Getting Bison steaks is a little more difficult. Company is in your neck of the woods, KyBison.
Its definitely more expensive than beef, but we have switched entirely to bison and dropped beef from our diet and have noticed a difference.

Love me some venison as well. But I dont hunt, so only get it when a buddy of mine goes hunting.

[Merusk]

I'll take another look 'round the grocery today when I go.  Maybe it's just nestled in amongst the beef but I'm pretty sure neither Kroger nor Meijer carry Bison locally.  I could drive out to Jungle Jim's but that's literally an hour-long drive and not worth it for ground meat.