DOTA2

[cmlancas]

This.. this is a good website.

https://dotabuff.com/players/3850239


See which friends are draggin' you down! :)

Protip:  it's me after heavy drinking while playing at 1 a.m. on a laptop.

Also, get a game in with Bho/Megrim if at all possible.  Fun times!

[Thrawn]

Protip:  it's me after heavy drinking while playing at 1 a.m. on a laptop.

Nope, I still drag Bhodi down worst with a 37.50% win rate.    I'm 0% with you.  Apparently I'm the anchor in this group.

[Lounge]

This.. this is a good website.

https://dotabuff.com/players/3850239


See which friends are draggin' you down! :)

Its solid... I think this one has a bit more interesting info though:
http://dotaholic.com/dota-2/player/i/23523905

[bhodi]

I'd rather lose with friends than win by myself.

[Llyse]

I'd rather lose with friends than win by myself.

This. I've played almost all my games with Steam friends of fail with mumble on. Admittedly there are definitely some friends who I win a lot more than others... 

[Megrim]

Ironically enough, my winrate goes up when I play without people I know. Hm...

[cmlancas]

Protip:  it's me after heavy drinking while playing at 1 a.m. on a laptop.

GO GO KEEPER OF THE LIGHT ON TRACKPAD.

If it's any consolation, I played a pretty solid ursa after. :)

[cmlancas]

A sober, semi-serious cmlancas will be on DotA2 around 430 p.m. EST looking to smash face.  F13 folks are cordially invited to stomp face with me.

Come play!

[cmlancas]

Hat tricking the DotA2 thread, my apologies.

Anyone have any advice for positioning?  I find I'm the first to die more often than not in my teamfights which is leading to some very poor K/Ds and farm.  That's leading to some people on my friends list not wanting to play withme as much.   

[Fordel]

Don't go first unless your designed to go first. That's my sage advice.

[Ice Cream Emperor]

Yeah, mercenary though it may be, I find that at the low-to-middling skill levels counter-initiation/counter-ganking is often a lot more effective. Aka. letting some poor guy on your team get jumped on before you go in.

[Malakili]

It seems like I can barely get through a game without a leaver lately.  I don't even know if it is rage quitters or just too many DOTA players have wooden PCs and just crash or something.  I'm fucking sick of investing 30 minutes into games that are ultimately decided by someone on either side leaving either way.  I might have to put DOTA 2 down for a week or two, its just starting to piss me off every time I load it up.  And I shouldn't be in the leavers queue either, I've never abandoned a game.

[Megrim]

Hat tricking the DotA2 thread, my apologies.

Anyone have any advice for positioning?  I find I'm the first to die more often than not in my teamfights which is leading to some very poor K/Ds and farm.  That's leading to some people on my friends list not wanting to play withme as much.   

Its not you, its just that I actually have to work at the times you play. Or am asleep. =p

Typically, with the heroes you play (i.e. Lich, etc...) try to go off whoever the initiators in your team are. It can be a bit tricky in actuality, because who you think the obvious initiators are isn't always the case. People in pub have a tendency to bait, so you need to be aware of where you are in relation to your team as much as the other guys. Hanging towards your tower/side of river/nearest forest tends to be the safer option because the plays almost always (at our level at least) tend to happen linearly.

e.g.



The red lines are the most likely vectors of attack, so the blues are your defensive zone. The leftmost blue is the furthest back you can be and still contribute, whereas the furthest right blue is where you don't want to go past. So if your initiators are on that line, you want to be behind them.

Obviously, having wards on the river south river crossing, and the entry point into your forest below the Scourge T1 right-side tower will help tremendously.




Malakili, what is your steamid? We end up running a f13+friends group on a semi-regular basis, so you would probably have a good shot at getting a game in at least some of the time.

[cmlancas]

Had an epic, epic f13 win last night.  They brought our ancient to about 15% and we took a t2, t3, and ancient to win in the next five minutes.

Thanks for carrying us, megrim.   

[Llyse]

Had an epic, epic f13 win last night.  They brought our ancient to about 15% and we took a t2, t3, and ancient to win in the next five minutes.

Thanks for carrying us, megrim.   

Hells yeah! Competitive DOTA2 Here f13 comes! 

[Malakili]

I'll see if I can hook up with some of you guys, but I'm getting less and less likely to log in all the time.  The amount of good games I get vs. the time I put in is just ridiculous. 

[HaemishM]

LoL's queue got boo-fooed last night, so I jumped into DOTA2. Played 2 games, and then a third one today, all using Skeleton King. I'm starting to get the hang of it, I think, at least with this champ. The game I just finished was a win even though our team was 4v5. I went 10/6 and actually felt like I contributed (was the 2nd highest kill total on my team). Of course, looking at the other team's stats, they really really blew. I think their top killer had like 4 or 5 kills.

[Lastwolf]

I don't think I can play invoker, I have no idea how the hell I won that last game,

[HaemishM]

I had two games tonight, one with Nyx Assassin and another with Nature's Prophet. The first went... not so well for me, though the team won and somehow I was the second best player on the team. Helps when your Riki goes 15/0 I suppose. The game with Nature's Prophet was just a steamroll from the get go. Get a bunch of kills early on both opponents bot, then one of them apparently quits and the other is left to fend for himself. Finally, they get a 2nd leaver and it's just a matter of time after that. It's game's like that which cry out for a surrender option. 

[Fordel]

Another update is rolling along. Added a few more bots to the pool, and made them less dumb in some ways.


But most importantly, Meepo is in! ( http://www.dota2wiki.com/wiki/Meepo )

http://www.joindota.com/en/news/4200-dota-2-update-added-meepo


Think its still just on the test client, but should hit the actual game within the week or so.

[Ingmar]

He looks... complicated.

[Malakili]

He looks... complicated.

Not actually that complicated, just APM intensive.

[luckton]

Looks like I beat the odds.  Got my invite to play this morning 

[K9]

I got an invite too, now just need to find some time to try it out.

[Fordel]

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=372463

http://www.playdota.com/changelogs/6.75

Version 6.75 of the original Dota map is out. No idea when the changes will propagate to the Dota2 version. There is a LOT there though.




-edit-

New item:

Shadow Amulet:
===============
Cost:
- 1600

Provides:
+30 Attack Speed
Active, Fade: Upon activation, fades your hero out over 2.75 seconds. If you move, you will lose your invisibility. No cooldown.

Note 1: Used in the new Lothar's Edge recipe.
Note 2: Similar to how Lothar's Edge works, you can use this invisibility in combination with channeling spells.

[Malakili]

Very interesting, I didn't even realize development on DOTA was still happening with DOTA 2 being so far along.

[Fordel]

I think Icefrog has said he will continue to update and develop the original Dota Map as long as there is still interest in it.

LOTS of people still play Dota1, especially in China.

[Dark_MadMax]

I had two games tonight, one with Nyx Assassin and another with Nature's Prophet. The first went... not so well for me, though the team won and somehow I was the second best player on the team. Helps when your Riki goes 15/0 I suppose. The game with Nature's Prophet was just a steamroll from the get go. Get a bunch of kills early on both opponents bot, then one of them apparently quits and the other is left to fend for himself. Finally, they get a 2nd leaver and it's just a matter of time after that. It's game's like that which cry out for a surrender option. 

Sounds like all the "best" parts of LoL community are present in DoTA2 as well. I guess I ll stick to known evil :)

[Megrim]

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=372463

http://www.playdota.com/changelogs/6.75

Version 6.75 of the original Dota map is out. No idea when the changes will propagate to the Dota2 version. There is a LOT there though.




-edit-

New item:

Shadow Amulet:
===============
Cost:
- 1600

Provides:
+30 Attack Speed
Active, Fade: Upon activation, fades your hero out over 2.75 seconds. If you move, you will lose your invisibility. No cooldown.

Note 1: Used in the new Lothar's Edge recipe.
Note 2: Similar to how Lothar's Edge works, you can use this invisibility in combination with channeling spells.

There are some pretty big balance changes in there as well. Morphling copping a nerf is always a good sight.

[Fordel]

Treant Protector has his aura replaced with a new (old?) single target global spell.

[Megrim]

Its similar to what it used to be (tbh, its been changed so many times, I don't even remember which is the 'original' version), but I think this one is going to be much more powerful. If I understand it correctly, it works like Visage's block, but is also global and works on towers. Between it and the new hero's dispersal field, there are going to be some awesome tower and hero-saving clutch plays in the new version.

[Fordel]

This is out now, minus the heroes that have yet to be ported from Dota 1.


-edit- The big patch that is.

[Fordel]

My beloved Treant Protector is now a lot harder to play :( .


I don't have that kind of global awareness dammit!

[Thrawn]

Hm, got Lycan in a random game post patch.  Not sure what I think of it, he can't jungle at all anymore.  At level 5 with level 3 wolves I still couldn't even do any camp other than the easy one without losing a wolf.  But mid to late game I just kept farming and had BKB and ran over the other team anyways. 

[Fordel]

Yea Jungle Lycan is dead, you gotta put him in a lane.