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Reply #245 on: May 07, 2012, 01:18:26 AM

Second one had more of Iron Man being Iron Man. The first had a distinct lack of Iron Maniess. The story in the second one wasn't very good, however.
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Reply #246 on: May 07, 2012, 01:21:49 AM

Possibly my favorite being
That got the biggest laugh in the showing I saw.
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Reply #247 on: May 07, 2012, 03:17:47 AM

Iron Man 2 featured Mickey Rourke's performance as Ivan Vanko. One might also get a kick out of Sam Rockwell as the douchey, inept Justin Hammer. I have my own complaints about the movie (Drunken Iron Man vs War Machine fight being foremost), but it's well worth watching to catch the performances of the villains. I kinda wanna see it again now smiley

Edited to add: I forgot, IM2 is also where Scarlett Johannson shows up as the Black Widow character. So there's some more Avengers continuity for you.
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Reply #248 on: May 07, 2012, 03:40:56 AM

Made over $400m overseas already.  This being a movie that wasn't marketed all that forcefully, and will likely have a helluva lot more word-of-mouth attendance. 1bn is a given.

I don't know how it's being marketed over there but nearly every-other commercial here is a product tie-in.   Not what I'd call "low key" marketing even if there are very few actual commercials for the movie.

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Reply #249 on: May 07, 2012, 03:47:27 AM

Yeah, I'd take issue with Low Key too.  (And Loki)

It's been assaulting your every sense in the UK, especially the kid channels.

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Reply #250 on: May 07, 2012, 05:58:23 AM

Made over $400m overseas already.  This being a movie that wasn't marketed all that forcefully, and will likely have a helluva lot more word-of-mouth attendance. 1bn is a given.

I don't know how it's being marketed over there but nearly every-other commercial here is a product tie-in.   Not what I'd call "low key" marketing even if there are very few actual commercials for the movie.

I'm comparing it to campaigns like Wrath of the Titans, or <insert tweenpop flick here>.  Of course, the fact I have a few DVRs might be the cause of it.  I dont watch TV if it includes commercials, unless it's an important Live sports event.

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Reply #251 on: May 07, 2012, 06:40:03 AM

Well, that was certainly the best movie I've seen in quite a while. Really wondered whether or not they would be able to put in Black Widow and Hawkeye without them just being cameos, and damn did they pull it off. I think it helped that the previous run of movies gave the other characters enough backstory that they were able to devote time to Widow and Barton, and actually round them out.

Favorite scene by far, was something I've been waiting to see since I first started reading comics:

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Reply #252 on: May 07, 2012, 08:14:06 AM

Just back.  It was great, of course, but a few things just didn't work for me and kinda spoiled it a little.


Anyways.  Go See It if you haven't.

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Reply #253 on: May 07, 2012, 08:51:02 AM

Loved it. Didn't think the 3D added much at all, however. Think I am done with that fad until they can do it without glasses. Also, I am again in the minority in that I HATED Thor (the movie). I was bored to death. Went with a buddy of mine, but might just drag my wife to see it too...I am sure there are things I missed (Like the ). Wish my son was old enough to properly enjoy it.

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Reply #254 on: May 07, 2012, 02:26:26 PM

Just back.  It was great, of course, but a few things just didn't work for me and kinda spoiled it a little.


Anyways.  Go See It if you haven't.

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Reply #255 on: May 07, 2012, 02:29:16 PM

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Reply #256 on: May 07, 2012, 02:38:39 PM

No.

That's a shite answer.  Both of them.

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Reply #257 on: May 07, 2012, 02:39:40 PM

Loki wanted to get caught(it's not a spoiler) he's played as a lot more complex villain then you'd first notice.

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Reply #258 on: May 07, 2012, 02:40:30 PM

Loki wanted to get caught(it's not a spoiler) he's played as a lot more complex villain then you'd first notice.

I mean caught as in defeated

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Reply #259 on: May 07, 2012, 02:42:48 PM

I'll ask again;  What was his motivation in doing so ?


Edited because you edited;  I don't buy that either.

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Reply #260 on: May 07, 2012, 02:51:01 PM


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Reply #261 on: May 07, 2012, 03:02:27 PM

I'll ask again;  What was his motivation in doing so ?


Edited because you edited;  I don't buy that either.



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Reply #262 on: May 07, 2012, 06:50:06 PM

He's Loki. He fucks with people purely for the fun of fucking with people.  The answer as to why he did it there is probably "because he could".

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Reply #263 on: May 08, 2012, 01:12:00 AM

I'm not gonna go further on this one because the wife has banned me from my 'incessant bloody moaning'.  The plot just didn't sit well with me, but I shall desist.

Of course, I'm not allowed to take the piss out of her for now wanting to see Twilight Girl And The Huntsman simply because hunky Thor is in it.

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Reply #264 on: May 08, 2012, 01:26:36 AM

Also, every time I think of the 'He was adopted' line, I giggle.  It was a perfect delivery.

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Reply #265 on: May 08, 2012, 01:40:51 AM

Um...


But yeah, it was the weakest part of the script.

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Reply #266 on: May 08, 2012, 06:57:03 AM

Not a big deal tho

Still, I love Loki.  He is the most well-rounded villain I have ever seen.

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Reply #267 on: May 08, 2012, 08:00:01 AM

I will point out that the SHIELD helicarrier has a tradition of being useless in the comics as well. About half the time it appears in a story, it appears for the sake of being blown up (in whole or in part), almost crashing, being unable to accomplish anything useful, etc. Or it appears so that it can be stormed, attacked, almost taken over, etc. Actually, that's SHIELD as a whole also: about half the major arcs of SHIELD appearances in various Marvel comics involve SHIELD being infiltrated or taken over by shapechangers, enemy agents, mind-control bad guys, supervillainous conspiracies, etc.

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Reply #268 on: May 08, 2012, 08:03:50 AM

I'm glad that stupid air-aircraft carrier is in the comics, I wasn't aware of that and it annoyed me more than anything else in the movie.
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Reply #269 on: May 08, 2012, 08:05:09 AM

In the animated run the Helicarrier has The Big House unshrunk and it literally rams wings of a mansion out the sides.

It's quite funny, actually.

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Reply #270 on: May 08, 2012, 10:05:51 AM

The Helicarrier is just a one big fuckall nothing in the comics. I think I've seen it fire weapons at something maybe once or twice (Godzilla actually). But most of the time it really is one giant flying fucking target. Considering it was created in the 60's by the same guy who created Doctor Strange and such luminary villains as STILT-MAN, I'm willing to give it a pass.

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Reply #271 on: May 08, 2012, 11:51:10 AM

Back of popcorn tub calculations told me it would never fly. Or get FAA approval for lacking redundant systems. I would go so far as to say it was the least believable part of the movie...

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Reply #272 on: May 08, 2012, 12:02:38 PM

I still don't understand why Stark wouldn't just fly UP or DOWN when the thing went fast enough.

 why so serious?

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Reply #273 on: May 08, 2012, 12:20:26 PM

The Hellcarrier is and always has been immensely stupid. Can be shot down by a fucking bow and arrow? Really? Also when it first takes off with Banner, Cap and a couple of others on the deck, they look over the edge of the deck into the fan blades that are providing enough lift to carry a goddamn aircraft carrier into the sky but don't get sucked in and turned into paste (guacamole in Banner's case).

Fury's plot was also stupid. The whole pretending to give up so that the heroes would somehow sort their shit out on their own was just weaksauce and a lazy plot coupon. That whole scene reminded me just how terrible most of Whedon's output is.

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Reply #274 on: May 08, 2012, 12:39:13 PM

It was an explosive arrow.   Ohhhhh, I see.
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Reply #275 on: May 08, 2012, 12:42:56 PM

lol

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Reply #276 on: May 08, 2012, 01:25:37 PM

Aslo mechs are stupid, a flying tank could easily beat any mech......

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Reply #277 on: May 08, 2012, 01:35:18 PM

That girl's knees are way too sharp.

Oops, sorry, wrong thread full of nerds  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

The Helicarrier has been a thing in the Marvel Universe for as long as I can remember. It's definitely more of a hovering convention center than an effective warship. Particularly when super-types are involved.


Blech. It's been five days here in the US. Has everyone seen this movie yet? Can we stop using spoiler tags?



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Reply #278 on: May 08, 2012, 01:37:04 PM

Are we still doing spoilers?


Overall, a great movie.  Easily the best team superhero movie made, and from me that's saying a lot since I generally can't stand the Hulk, Thor or Cap.  In this movie they really worked, especially Banner.  Iron Man, Hawkeye and Widow were still my favorites, though.  I'd pay $$ to see a Hawkeye/Widow movie.

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Reply #279 on: May 08, 2012, 01:40:51 PM

Asgardian Gods with sci-tech magic hammers, unstoppable giant green scientests, a guy with a super-tech metal suit and a freaking nuclear reactor embedded in his chest, GIANT ALIEN FISH-SHIPS WITH NO VISIBLE MEANS OF LIFT OR PROPULTION, and you people manage to latch on to a flying aircraft carrier to bitch about?

I mean, seriously, its a bloody comic book movie.  A bloody good one a that.  Stop nitpicking.

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