Starting up again.

[Pennilenko]

Never Stop!

[Comstar]

What happened yesterday? I looked at the Bat Country kill board and there's 96 kills, mostly PL in DKUK.

Hell, the results for this MONTH, all 6 days of is: 150 Ships killed (18.75B ISK)    40 Ships lost (1.93B ISK)    90.67% Efficiency (ISK).  Surly someone can post some battle reports, or even an update on what's happening? Am I going to have to come back so someone will do that.

[Kageru]

With Rift burning me out (I've got to level 47, but the guild I was in seems to have kicked me out for inactivity) and the collapse of the NC, Eve sounds..dramatic again.

However, I keep reading every battle report as "and then 100 supercapital's landed so we ran away". Is that really the state of play or is there non-supercap battles going on anywhere?

Well since the DC can't really answer the DRF super-cap blob (if it stays cohesive and focused, which it may not if the death of the NC means mission accomplished) it's either going to be sub-cap battles, super ambushes or getting evicted back to lowsec and doing wulfpax. Win win either way. And certainly the old problem of no nearby reds has been solved and getting to follow the death of the NC was pretty epic.

Holiday almost over so looking forward to being back myself. Seeing how the new neighbors have changed the place. Of course getting my character home from vale should be exciting. Had to dock into a reinforced station to catch a plane.

[Phildo]

What happened yesterday? I looked at the Bat Country kill board and there's 96 kills, mostly PL in DKUK.

Phreeze challenged Vee to an old-fashioned battleship fight under a cynojammer so there could be no supercap shenanigans.

[Sir T]

Since Supercaps can wander around low sec without the threat of Cynojammers and warp bubbles, I'd say the only place you are going to see Battleship battles soon will be empire wars in high sec.

Oh, whats the timetable betting on Endie going Fukgoons? 

[tgr]

Since Supercaps can wander around low sec without the threat of Cynojammers and warp bubbles, I'd say the only place you are going to see Battleship battles soon will be empire wars in high sec.

Since they're going to have to be nerfed, I'd say I hope this will never be the case.

We have a structure-shooting shiptype, dreads. We don't need superdreads with movable/killable guns (supercarriers) or duperdreads (titans). We could, however, do with more high-level strategic shiptypes.

Oh, whats the timetable betting on Endie going Fukgoons? 

Huh?

[Pennilenko]

Oh, whats the timetable betting on Endie going Fukgoons? 

You don't understand Endie...He will be the last goon. Well more like he will be the last 100 goons.

[Endie]

I, too am pretty bemused by the idea of me going fuckgoons.  Hell, if I had a lifestyle that let me live in the US TZ I'd be Mitten's anointed successor.  Though obviously I'd have to brush up on my sabre skills and somehow persuade my dog to quadruple in size.

[Sir T]

Gentlemen, you have been

[tgr]

Jesus h christables, himo, if that was a troll, then it was a pretty fucking weak troll. In fact, the image macro was a better troll simply because it's an image macro.

[Gets]

~MY PUPPY~ is still only 2 weeks old.

[Elaen Todir]

~MY PUPPY~ is still only 2 weeks old.

Pics?

And I'll put 50 isk to Endie going fuckgoons in the next 12 hours, any takers?!

[Sir T]

Jesus h christables, himo, if that was a troll, then it was a pretty fucking weak troll. In fact, the image macro was a better troll simply because it's an image macro.

It was a joke, but you lot took it so seriously I wound up laughing my ass off. "Endie going fuckgoons?? NOOOOOOOOO!!!" "It WILL NOT ever happen!!" "DON'T SAY THAT!!!" You trolled yourselves.

Seriously guys, you might just have a few unspoken issues here. I mean when I was in goons people openly joked about titan pilots going fuckgoons. What makes Endie persona non fukgoonia?  

(Besides, I LOVE Dom Deluoise and it was a good excuse to use an image macro of him)

[palmer_eldritch]

Jesus Christ Himo, there's no way Endie would go fuckgoons. People generally don't do that until they've spent a couple of years building up a bizarre personality cult on Goonfleet.com and other Eve-related forums.

[tgr]

What you seem to think happened:
"Endie going fuckgoons?? NOOOOOOOOO!!!" "It WILL NOT ever happen!!" "DON'T SAY THAT!!!"

What actually happened:
Me saying "Huh?", Pennilenko making a joke about endie's numerous (but not enumerable as it'll overflow a long long) alts, and endie typing :words:.

I'm sure there's an image macro saying something like "i troll u wolololo" or somesuch somewhere on the internet. vOv

[Sir T]

Jesus Christ Himo, there's no way Endie would go fuckgoons. People generally don't do that until they've spent a couple of years building up a bizarre personality cult on Goonfleet.com and other Eve-related forums.

[Furiously]

Himo. You are a terrible poster and an even worse troll. But you have a magical fleet leading voice and are fun to play with.

[Endie]

Himo do you realise that not one person here believes that you were trolling?  Why not just say "oh yeah I suppose not ah well" and provoke less saddened shaking of heads?

[Endie]

Also the reason that anyone who actually knows me might suspect that I'm unlikely to go fuckgoons and leave in a blaze of tech-stealing pique is that I don't scam, don't steal and even my spy alts just move quietly on.  Hell, I was a director in Sc0rched Earth (director of counter-intel, no troll) and I looked into the corp's hangar and saw their :shobon: little pile of ammo and cruisers and left it there.

I suspect that I have access to a bit less than half a trillion right now in cash and tech, and plenty more in other assets.  I'm not even tempted.  I'm just not wired that way.  Plus, Eve without Goonswarm would be pretty pointless, and pretty much my entire Eve career has been based around entertaining other people.

[Comstar]

Hell, I was a director in Sc0rched Earth (director of counter-intel, no troll) and I looked into the corp's hangar and saw their :shobon: little pile of ammo and cruisers and left it there.

You should tell some stories of the GIA - I'm sure there's a lot of Eve History that's never going to be known otherwise. Didn't you at one stage FC one fleet while running both fleets at the same time?

[Endie]

Not me: that was DBRB during the FL deployment against Atlas in 2009.  But I've been intending to declassify some stuff in updates at some point.

[Sir T]

Himo do you realise that not one person here believes that you were trolling?  Why not just say "oh yeah I suppose not ah well" and provoke less saddened shaking of heads?

Hell, no-one reacted like I could conceivably have been joking.  That's what I find so hilarious  

Also the reason that anyone who actually knows me might suspect that I'm unlikely to go fuckgoons and leave in a blaze of tech-stealing pique is that I don't scam, don't steal and even my spy alts just move quietly on.  Hell, I was a director in Sc0rched Earth (director of counter-intel, no troll) and I looked into the corp's hangar and saw their :shobon: little pile of ammo and cruisers and left it there.

I suspect that I have access to a bit less than half a trillion right now in cash and tech, and plenty more in other assets.  I'm not even tempted.  I'm just not wired that way.  Plus, Eve without Goonswarm would be pretty pointless, and pretty much my entire Eve career has been based around entertaining other people.

Hamlet:  Madam, how like you this play?   
Queen:  The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

[Vedi]

Hamlet:  Madam, how like you this play?   
Queen:  The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

In this play you're the lady, Himo.

We know Endie. You can joke about him spending more time with a dictionary than the rest of his countrymen combined spend ensuring that the quadrupedal, ruminant mammals of the highlands are well versed in the arts of procreation. You could grin at him having more Eve accounts than FIFA has Swiss bank accounts. But we also know that among the best things that can happen to an alliance is to get Endie as director-level spy, for he will take pity on it and take it upon himself to run it competently. If the whole of Eve finally becomes a blue-for-all, this is the sign that Endie has finally penetrated all, and I am not referring to the practise performed with the Ovis aries of his fellow scots here. This is not because he hates spaceship violence, but because he'd hate to see his babies fight. Thank god he doesn't speak Russian. (Don't learn Russian!)

It's like suggesting that The Mittani would go fuckgoons. It doesn't work as a joke because he doesn't care about winning, he cares about playing the game. And if he tires of the game, he'd sure as hell not leave it in such a crass, copy-cat way as fucking goons by taking some isk. No. The Mittani would learn Russian. And then Swedish. And before we know it, we'd all be slaves to the HVAC industry.

[Pennilenko]

Hamlet:  Madam, how like you this play?   
Queen:  The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

In this play you're the lady, Himo.

We know Endie. You can joke about him spending more time with a dictionary than the rest of his countrymen combined spend ensuring that the quadrupedal, ruminant mammals of the highlands are well versed in the arts of procreation. You could grin at him having more Eve accounts than FIFA has Swiss bank accounts. But we also know that among the best things that can happen to an alliance is to get Endie as director-level spy, for he will take pity on it and take it upon himself to run it competently. If the whole of Eve finally becomes a blue-for-all, this is the sign that Endie has finally penetrated all, and I am not referring to the practise performed with the Ovis aries of his fellow scots here. This is not because he hates spaceship violence, but because he'd hate to see his babies fight. Thank god he doesn't speak Russian. (Don't learn Russian!)

It's like suggesting that The Mittani would go fuckgoons. It doesn't work as a joke because he doesn't care about winning, he cares about playing the game. And if he tires of the game, he'd sure as hell not leave it in such a crass, copy-cat way as fucking goons by taking some isk. No. The Mittani would learn Russian. And then Swedish. And before we know it, we'd all be slaves to the HVAC industry.

 

[Amarr HM]

That was a good post Vedi.

[MahrinSkel]

That's why my "spying" was all information-brokering.  I just couldn't see myself infiltrating an alliance and not trying to *help* them.  Trading favors and secrets is all fun and games (until you accidentally burn a source), but actually getting to be an "Agent of Influence" requires being so useful to your target alliance that if you put the same effort into your own it would be of far more use than anything you might manage to inflict on the "enemy" when you turned.  You have to *enjoy* lying to people that trust you, enjoy getting them to trust you *because* you're going to betray them, to play that game.  Which is why I never trusted Manfred Sideous even when he was in my corp, I knew that kind of spymaster is never really trustworthy.

--Dave

[Phildo]

But Manny is fat and jolly, how is that not trustworthy?

[Endie]

I actually got thrown out of one target alliance because I kept calling the leadership out for their terrible fleet doctrines, fits etc.  I can't help it.

[Morfiend]

So is -BAT- still around or did it finally go the way of all other Bat Country guilds?

[Phildo]

BAT is still around and doing pretty well.

[Kageru]

It's a good time to return. Either to take part in the quite possible last glorious defense of Deklein or enjoy having large number of bored reds nearby and roaming through Deklein. Or failing that at least to make sure you stuff is somewhere safe.

[Morfiend]

Damnit. Online spaceships sucked me back in. 

I ended up reactivating. I have been puttering around empire with a friend of mine. I havent seen anyone not afk in the f13 channel to chat with.

[Phildo]

The channel has fallen into disuse lately.  I was going to try revitalizing it by forcing everyone in BAT, including the non-f13 people, to idle there.  Except I don't know who the moderators are so we haven't done that just yet.

When I'm online, I'm usually paying attention to it.  Say hi to me.

[JWIV]

If I'm on, I'm in there - usually as Qormic.

[Morfiend]

Has anyone done any of the faction warfare stuff? One of my characters can fly CovOps, so I was thinking about trying to faction warfare with him and attacking some people in empire for practice.