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Fabricated
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Call of Duty Elite - Subscription fee for CoD MW3.
I think BF3 devs and EA shareholders got early Christmas Present. This Just In: Activision is Circling the Drain. If by "circling the drain" you mean "gonna make a fuckload of money". You underestimate the terrible tastes of modern gamers.
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"The world is populated in the main by people who should not exist." - George Bernard Shaw
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Malakili
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Call of Duty Elite - Subscription fee for CoD MW3.
I think BF3 devs and EA shareholders got early Christmas Present. This Just In: Activision is Circling the Drain. If by "circling the drain" you mean "gonna make a fuckload of money". You underestimate the terrible tastes of modern gamers. Its hard to say. While I'm sure tons of people will get this, I suspect there are plenty who are going to be turned off by the fact that they don't get the full experience without paying extra. Then again, every time I try to think about this I have to remember how many people lined up and begged Blizzard to take their money for sparkle ponies.
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Strazos
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I don't know, I think this could go either way - either your average console gamer will continue to be mystified and turned off by recurring costs to play a single game, or they'll give in to their addiction to CoD and cough up the bucks. Most of them will not bother doing the math on how much this ends up costing them, and most who do won't care.
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Fear the Backstab! "Plato said the virtuous man is at all times ready for a grammar snake attack." - we are lesion "Hell is other people." -Sartre
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Merusk
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Most will look at it as "Meh, it's a couple of bucks a month" and nothing more. They'll pay it, forget for a few months after they're done and then cancel and ATV will have an extra $200 from them for doing very little. It's the way modern games are headed, get used to it or get a different hobby.
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Ginaz
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It's the way modern games are headed, get used to it or get a different hobby.
Seems that way. If it starts to get out of control (I don't give a shit about CoD, Battlefield is the better franchise imo) then I guess I will have to find a new hobby. Knitting maybe? And if I have to join Facebook or something like, which seems to be the what Activision is doing here, then I'll find something else to spend my disposable income on. I hate fucking Facebook and everything associated with it, esp. those shitty Facebook games (sorry Schild).
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ffc
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Furiously
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The only good thing I see about this is cheaters getting banned by credit card or address maybe.
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tgr
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FYI, people are throwing $8/mo around.
ahaha aaaaahahahha haaaaaaaaahahahahahhahahahaha (I think that sums it up)
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Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.
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Malakili
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FYI, people are throwing $8/mo around.
ahaha aaaaahahahha haaaaaaaaahahahahahhahahahaha (I think that sums it up) Comes out to a little less than a 100 bucks a year - heck people are already spending almsot that much on CoD games to begin with 
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luckton
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Maybe this is EA's way of trying to beat Blizzard at WoW. Next thing you know, they'll start advertising this new thing as a MMO. 
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"Those lights, combined with the polygamous Nazi mushrooms, will mess you up."
"Tuning me out doesn't magically change the design or implementation of said design. Though, that'd be neat if it did." -schild
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Malakili
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Maybe this is EA's way of trying to beat Blizzard at WoW. Next thing you know, they'll start advertising this new thing as a MMO.  CoD is published by Activision.
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luckton
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Maybe this is EA's way of trying to beat Blizzard at WoW. Next thing you know, they'll start advertising this new thing as a MMO.  CoD is published by Activision. Logic failure. Shows how much I give a damn about these military FPS games...CoD, Battlefield, Modern Warfare, they're all the same to me  I stand corrected and redact my comment.
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"Those lights, combined with the polygamous Nazi mushrooms, will mess you up."
"Tuning me out doesn't magically change the design or implementation of said design. Though, that'd be neat if it did." -schild
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tgr
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Comes out to a little less than a 100 bucks a year - heck people are already spending almsot that much on CoD games to begin with  Fools and their money are easily parted? vOv
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HaemishM
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This Just In: Activision is Circling the Drain.
Yeah, it's a drain made of money that carries money from the money river directly to their money hats. Are you fucking retarded? Even if no one signed up for this ridiculous sub service, CoD: The Nextening is going to sell boatloads. Quality hasn't mattered much on the last 4 iterations, why should it matter now? And even if in some Bizarro World where the CoD/Modern Warfare franchise didn't sell like hookers at a Viagra convention, Activision still has millions a month in recurring revenue from the Blizzard side of the equation. Bobby Kotick is a dick, but he's a rich dick getting richer.
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Xanthippe
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Bobby Kotick is a dick, but he's a rich dick getting richer.
I hate seeing it, too. He's all about monetizing games to the hilt, regardless of whether it sucks the fun out.
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HaemishM
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You know, I'm not all that upset about this Elite thing. None of the shit other than maps am I the least bit interested in as more than a curiosity. The grouping thing is nice but anti-social me hasn't joined a guild/clan that wasn't f13'ers in forever. As long as I can purchase the maps separately, I see nothing in that to get my panties in a bunch about other than that it comes from the festering crotchpheasant that is Bobby Kotick. If someone wants to pay a monthly fee to access all that, I can sit back and laugh at their waste of money quite comfortably.
I'm actually in favor of more recurring revenue streams for developers. Hell, I'd like to see EA add stadium packs as DLC for its FIFA series of games. I'd buy that. I'd even pay a premium for the individual pieces over the subscription fee.
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Merusk
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It's the way modern games are headed, get used to it or get a different hobby.
Seems that way. If it starts to get out of control. It's already out of control. If you'd been here longer you'd be reading this thread and seeing people who used to pitch a fit at the mere mention of RMT transactions in MMO talking in a blase manner about fees on a console game and what they'd be willing to pay for or not. It is, in fact, the future. It will take it over. It's a done deal.
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rk47
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Well CD Projekt is bucking the trend with free DLCs...and complete DRM removal for retail copies ...weeks after release... Fucking eastern europe setting a good example...
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Speedy Cerviche
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Competition from places like Eastern Europe or Asia can undercut these crazy monetizing schemes if they can offer quality games without such obvious DLC screwjobs to customers. Might take a decade to break some barriers like console access though (Android console?).
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UnSub
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Well CD Projekt is bucking the trend with free DLCs...and complete DRM removal for retail copies ...weeks after release... Fucking eastern europe setting a good example...
Of course, CD Projekt has the GOG revenue stream which helps. I agree they are a great company, but they are an outlier like Valve.
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Ingmar
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One also has to wonder what the going rate for a game designer is in the former Warsaw Pact.
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The Transcendent One: AH... THE ROGUE CONSTRUCT. Nordom: Sense of closure: imminent.
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bhodi
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Don't forget that CD Projeckt also got burned REALLY BADLY with the witcher 1 in terms of both DRM and horrible bugs on release. Remember the terrible, terrible loading between zones? They decided to learn their lesson. In other "Hahaha, is this for real?" type news:"We have engaged some top Hollywood talent to create linear video content that will be exclusive to Elite members. That content is inspired by Call of Duty," Activision Publishing chief executive Eric Hirshberg told Guardian.
Every publisher is interested in keeping brand awareness in full swing year round, and Activision has taken cues from sports broadcasting to deliver Call of Duty fans a drip feed to keep them hooked. "If you're a sports fan, there are lots of ways for you to connect with that hobby, that passion, not just on the day that the games are played, but throughout the week, and we wanted to give [gamers] real entertainment value,” he continued.
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Paelos
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God, I really really want developers to stop believing they are creating sports, or making sports comparisons, or trying to organize things like they are sports.
You're not sports. You are the ANTI-sports. Stop it.
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Zetor
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One also has to wonder what the going rate for a game designer is in the former Warsaw Pact.
Going by the wage differences in other fields, I'd say one-fourth the rate of a 'First World' designer... probably closer to a fifth or even sixth (a doctor in hungary makes less than 1/10 compared to a doctor in western europe or the US, but that's kind of an extreme example). Of course if you run your own company you pay what you want to pay. 
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rk47
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Don't forget that CD Projeckt also got burned REALLY BADLY with the witcher 1 in terms of both DRM and horrible bugs on release. Remember the terrible, terrible loading between zones? They decided to learn their lesson. In other "Hahaha, is this for real?" type news:"We have engaged some top Hollywood talent to create linear video content that will be exclusive to Elite members. That content is inspired by Call of Duty," Activision Publishing chief executive Eric Hirshberg told Guardian.
Every publisher is interested in keeping brand awareness in full swing year round, and Activision has taken cues from sports broadcasting to deliver Call of Duty fans a drip feed to keep them hooked. "If you're a sports fan, there are lots of ways for you to connect with that hobby, that passion, not just on the day that the games are played, but throughout the week, and we wanted to give [gamers] real entertainment value,” he continued.
Sad to say it'll still sell millions. The world we live in :(
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Colonel Sanders is back in my wallet
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