Johny Cee
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I grew up on the comics, and read the original Howard stories before I ever watched the two Arnold-as-Conan movies, so to me the whole "But Arnold IS Conan!" thing doesn't really hold as strong a position as for some others in here, and I actually think Jason Momoa is a better fit for the character than Arnold was. *shrug*
Arnold was fine as Conan, but what really made the first movie was everything else. The music, how it's shot, the stylized yet brutal combat. The soundtrack alone is pretty much perfect. The origin story, with virtually no dialogue besides the narration by Mako, sets up Conan as a huge badass and gives him a massively believable motive for going after Thulsa Doom. The way the movie was made, it didn't matter that Jerry Lopez was a surfboarder and Arnold was a bodybuilder... they only had to emote a bit and grunt out a line or two and you bought it. I just don't see how this movie could be anything but a disappointment.
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Der Helm
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If you expect a movie to dissapoint and it does, is it still dissapointing ? 
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Tannhauser
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Conan came out in 1982. I think 30 years is a decent enough time to pass so as not to sully the original.
You know, same with Hulk, oh wait. Well maybe the X-Mean, oh wait, I mean Spiderman, oh wait...
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tazelbain
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I was hoping for something a little more larger than life.
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Nebu
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They cast too much of a pretty boy as Conan. Still, might be a decent 90 min departure from reality.
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Sir T
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Am I the only one that kinda liked Conan the Destroyer? yeah it wasn't as good as Conan the Barbarian (duh, what has been since?), but taken on its own it was a pretty decent swords and sorcery chopemup and I quite enjoyed it. Red Sonia on the other hand was so bad people forget it even existed 
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UnSub
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Am I the only one that kinda liked Conan the Destroyer?
Yes. 
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Mrbloodworth
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Am I the only one that kinda liked Conan the Destroyer?
Nope. I also liked Red sonja.
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Arrrgh
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Am I the only one that kinda liked Conan the Destroyer?
Nope. I also liked Red sonja. The Solomon Cane film was good. Shame it hasn't been released in the US.
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Ingmar
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Am I the only one that kinda liked Conan the Destroyer?
Nope. I also liked Red sonja. I will have to remember that next time you recommend something. 
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Chimpy
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You have to like Destroyer a *teensy* bit if only because it has Wilt the Stilt being the bodyguard for the little blond girl you KNOW Wilt was probably banging between takes.
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Probably only once, he had to keep switching people to meet that 20k quota.
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Ratman_tf
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You have to like Destroyer a *teensy* bit if only because it has Wilt the Stilt being the bodyguard for the little blond girl you KNOW Wilt was probably banging between takes.
She played Amanda Rogers on TNG's True Q.  I just like to pull that little bit of triva out.
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Ingmar
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Older sister on the Wonder Years is the thing that comes to mind.
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Mrbloodworth
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Am I the only one that kinda liked Conan the Destroyer?
Nope. I also liked Red sonja. I will have to remember that next time you recommend something.  I have been lambasted for less :)
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stu
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They've been showing these on AMC tonight. The part in Barbarian with Conan knocking out the camel is still one of my favorite scenes of all time. There's kind of a similar moment in Destroyer with Grace Jones being scared of a rat that is pretty funny too.
I'll always love the old school texture of 80's fantasy flicks.
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Tannhauser
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I really, really hope they use the 'lamentation of the women' line. And if we're talking favorite scenes, I love it when Conan's face drops into his gruel. And when dude looks at his maul after bringing the columns down.
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Kitsune
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Conan was supposed to be a mean, surly asshole by default, only cheering up when he had money, booze, women, or any combination of the above. The sort of guy you would definitely not want hanging around outside your house. Smart, strong, and capable, but not very lovable. The Dark Horse comic version of him was pretty close to spot-on, in my opinion. It helped that they based several of their stories on original Howard stories, and that their artist was phenomenal.
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Khaldun
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The Dark Horse comics have been marvelous--extending from the stories where needed, using Howard as inspiration but not limited to him, and with a great understanding of the milieu of Conan.
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FatuousTwat
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Conan was supposed to be a mean, surly asshole by default, only cheering up when he had money, booze, women, or any combination of the above. The sort of guy you would definitely not want hanging around outside your house. Smart, strong, and capable, but not very lovable. The Dark Horse comic version of him was pretty close to spot-on, in my opinion. It helped that they based several of their stories on original Howard stories, and that their artist was phenomenal.
A man of great melancholy and great mirth? Is that Dark Horse series still going? I stopped reading them at #50 (where I thought they stopped).
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The Dark Horse comics have been marvelous--extending from the stories where needed, using Howard as inspiration but not limited to him, and with a great understanding of the milieu of Conan.
I liked the Dark Horse stuff, but I still think the stuff Roy Thomas did at Marvel was better. Dark Horse has actually collected most of those into TPB's in recent years. The cool thing about the TPB's is that in the back of each one (or at least the ones I've read) Roy Thomas goes into detail about what was adapted from the REH Conan stories, the logic behind the stuff he made up to fit between the REH stuff, how he adapted some of REH's other stories into Conan stories, his attempts at getting permission to adapt Carter and de Camp's Conan stories, etc... The guy obviously has a lot of love for the source material. On the minus side, he did help write Conan the Destroyer.
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Riggswolfe
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The Dark Horse comics have been marvelous--extending from the stories where needed, using Howard as inspiration but not limited to him, and with a great understanding of the milieu of Conan.
I liked the Dark Horse stuff, but I still think the stuff Roy Thomas did at Marvel was better. Dark Horse has actually collected most of those into TPB's in recent years. The cool thing about the TPB's is that in the back of each one (or at least the ones I've read) Roy Thomas goes into detail about what was adapted from the REH Conan stories, the logic behind the stuff he made up to fit between the REH stuff, how he adapted some of REH's other stories into Conan stories, his attempts at getting permission to adapt Carter and de Camp's Conan stories, etc... The guy obviously has a lot of love for the source material. On the minus side, he did help write Conan the Destroyer. Well since it's Hollywood I wouldn't be surprised if some suit ripped his script apart to make sure it could be a PG movie or something.
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Margalis
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Ok I was willing to be charitable but that looked terrible.
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vampirehipi23: I would enjoy a book written by a monkey and turned into a movie rather than this.
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RhyssaFireheart
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It went from semi-plausible to "getting silly now" with kiddie Conan killing all those hardened warriors/raiders to flat out unbelievable with spit the egg out unbroken at the end. Still, the best part was that complete stereotypical announcer's voice that you can hear in almost every trailer made. Who is that voice-over guy?
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Margalis
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Ron Perlman's speech was also terrible and didn't sound anything like what a real person would say - clearly exposition for the audience.
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vampirehipi23: I would enjoy a book written by a monkey and turned into a movie rather than this.
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You people are sometimes entirely too hard to please. I liked it just fine.
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Margalis
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I kind of lost it (in a bad way) when Conan did a jumping roundhouse kick to some guy.
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vampirehipi23: I would enjoy a book written by a monkey and turned into a movie rather than this.
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Tannhauser
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I liked it. Conan's supposed to be larger than life.
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lamaros
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Liked it. Popcorn required!
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You people are sometimes entirely too hard to please. I liked it just fine.
Have you ever read any of the Robert E. Howard stuff?
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Ingmar
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Even setting the Howard stories aside, this doesn't look like it is going to come anywhere near the first Arnold movie to me.
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DraconianOne
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You people are sometimes entirely too hard to please. I liked it just fine.
Have you ever read any of the Robert E. Howard stuff? Yes. Every single Conan story. They're all pulp and so is this. What's your point?
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You people are sometimes entirely too hard to please. I liked it just fine.
Have you ever read any of the Robert E. Howard stuff? Yes. Every single Conan story. They're all pulp and so is this. What's your point? To call this pulp is giving it way too much credit. Not even getting into the poor line delivery (Jason Momoa speaks every line like Christian Bale's Batman), this shit just looks like the product of a director who is mostly known for music videos and pointless Horror movie remakes like the Friday the 13th and Texas Chainsaw Massacre remakes. Most Conan stories have a slow build-up and an air of mystery around them. I realize these are just trailers and it's hard to judge pacing, but from what I've seen they seem to lack any sense of subtlety or anything other than generic action.
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