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Reply #1015 on: August 19, 2014, 06:04:09 PM

What's a challenge bonus on an item?

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Reply #1016 on: August 19, 2014, 06:06:11 PM

Raid uniques sometimes have +1 to a random stat like str or int listed as a challenge bonus.

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Reply #1017 on: August 19, 2014, 06:25:15 PM

I'm currently just bouncing all my heros to 25 for the synergies, so that'll help.
Ok yeah, this is definitely the wrong way to go about it and probably why leveling feels so slow to you.  The synergy bonuses are extremely minor, leveling characters to 60 gives you a lot more than the synergy stuff.  Your next two 60's are 20 and 15% more exp, that beats even leveling cyke.
Yeah they're minor but they add-up, and getting 7 more chars to 25 has taken less time than it took me to get Strange to 60. /shrug.  Each char is taking me an evening or so to hit 25, which is 2.5-3 hours depending on how focused I am. Deciding to run Emma from 25 to 30 last night took me 2.5 hours with boosts.
If you get them to 30 you'll get +1% XP for each.

This is good to know, thanks. Those 5 levels aren't a big deal and it fits in to my altaholisim.

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Reply #1018 on: August 19, 2014, 07:43:22 PM

Not much of a change really, they are just trying to reduce the graphics load. The Squirrel Friends will be nice when rushing. I won't have to stop and build squirrels before the Sister Minister. I still wish Squirrel Sabs was more targeted.

There is some potential for change here depending on how big of a buff Squirrel Presents receives. This could change things from Acorn Artillery to Squirrel Presents if the tooltip damage is comparable and if the squirrels stay on target long enough or if they are in proximity of your main target when you explode them. I'm thinking Sic 'Em (40% increased dmg and focuses squirrels to a target) -> Presents to explode them -> Squirrel Friends to have them all back again. The big difference here is that Presents receives +summoned dmg when AA/HBS doesn't seem to receive +summon dmg [edit: this also really helps melee SG as their dodge from Squirrel Distraction and damage from Nutcracker and Savage Swipe are all tied to getting max squirrels up asap]

Also, a new slot 3 for summoners (still no news on a slot 1 though Ohhhhh, I see.). Per Amthua, the idea is to have an option to Kraven's. While Kraven has +health this will have +duration (and much better stats in evrey other slot and +5% more summoned dmg). This will be either the new BiS for SG or 2nd BiS behind her Utility Belt with +4/4 skills



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Reply #1019 on: August 20, 2014, 04:24:43 AM

The QOL stuff is great for Squirrel Girl. I don't mind the rodent reduction as long as there's enough that it looks like a mob of them. I do wonder how long its going to be before they nerf her though. She's already at the top and with all the new +summon damage items, someone who manages to catass all of them is going to be insane.

The big thing with squirrel presents is if you blow them, suddenly you're infinite healing disappears until the squirrels are resummoned and lock onto something. That limits the utility a lot I think.

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Reply #1020 on: August 20, 2014, 06:47:55 AM

There is a slot 1 for summoners, drops of manape.

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Reply #1021 on: August 20, 2014, 09:33:12 AM

Where the hell is Manape at? I haven't run in to him at all.

Also, Daredevil is pretty damn fun. I think I'm having more fun with him than I did with MoonKnight.  Playing my alts to 25 (I have an illness) has given me a good taste of most of them and I think I prefer the ranged ones, especially Strange.  Emma would be a close second if her minions weren't so weak, even after pumping tons into the buffing skills.  I'll have to get SG one day and give her a shot.

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Reply #1022 on: August 20, 2014, 10:36:12 AM

ManApe is the one shot. I don't know if it can be solo'd or not.

Apparently the Latverian Cloak only drops from Doom. So add a few hundred cosmic dooms to the few hundred Sister Minister's to get geared.  swamp poop

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Reply #1023 on: August 20, 2014, 10:37:42 AM

The QOL stuff is great for Squirrel Girl. I don't mind the rodent reduction as long as there's enough that it looks like a mob of them. I do wonder how long its going to be before they nerf her though. She's already at the top and with all the new +summon damage items, someone who manages to catass all of them is going to be insane.

The big thing with squirrel presents is if you blow them, suddenly you're infinite healing disappears until the squirrels are resummoned and lock onto something. That limits the utility a lot I think.

Squirrel Presents will be much more useful now that you can instantly summon all 15 squirrels again with the improved Squirrel Friends.  I just hope they do something with the Hulkbuster graphics, which have been horrible for a couple of patches now.

Merusk, Man-Ape is found in a one-shot mission.  You can find it underneath the cosmic terminal missions.  Right now it's the only one-shot, but they'll be adding more eventually.

Edit: I've soloed the Man-Ape one-shot, but it can be hard.  Also, the new upcoming event is supposed to have a box that contains a random 'boss drop' unique, similar to the box that had the 'boss drop' artifacts, so that should help with the cuirrass and cloak.
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Reply #1024 on: August 20, 2014, 10:55:32 AM

If you can solo a cosmic you can solo man-ape, the only truly difficult part is protecting the Dora's, which is difficult because it's completely counter intuitive for the most part.

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Reply #1025 on: August 20, 2014, 02:20:08 PM

Yeah they're minor but they add-up, and getting 7 more chars to 25 has taken less time than it took me to get Strange to 60. /shrug.  Each char is taking me an evening or so to hit 25, which is 2.5-3 hours depending on how focused I am. Deciding to run Emma from 25 to 30 last night took me 2.5 hours with boosts.

Is this normal? Because this noob has just started playing and it's taken me 6 hours or so just to get to level 18 (with Colossus which I expect is mostly my problem).

Plus I generally have no clue what I'm doing. In life or this game. Tips would be appreciated. 



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Reply #1026 on: August 20, 2014, 02:32:06 PM

If it's your first character it won't be as fast as those of us with multiple high-level characters unless you use XP boosts.
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Reply #1027 on: August 20, 2014, 02:34:34 PM

If you can solo a cosmic you can solo man-ape, the only truly difficult part is protecting the Dora's, which is difficult because it's completely counter intuitive for the most part.

You can solo it easily if you ignore the Doras, they solo the event just fine if you just go away somewhere else.  Cheesy, but it works.

Yeah they're minor but they add-up, and getting 7 more chars to 25 has taken less time than it took me to get Strange to 60. /shrug.  Each char is taking me an evening or so to hit 25, which is 2.5-3 hours depending on how focused I am. Deciding to run Emma from 25 to 30 last night took me 2.5 hours with boosts.

Is this normal? Because this noob has just started playing and it's taken me 6 hours or so just to get to level 18 (with Colossus which I expect is mostly my problem).

Plus I generally have no clue what I'm doing. In life or this game. Tips would be appreciated. 



Tips about the game that is. 


 Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

Your first level 60 gets you an account wide 30% exp bonus, second one 20%, third 15% and fourth 10%.  After that each hero gets you 5% more up to 200%, and every level 30 is 1% and 50 3%.  So leveling gets progressively easier as you play.  Colossus is actually pretty good.  Do the story once on your first char, after that you can cherry pick the quests that give important rewards (which can be repeated once per difficulty for more of the same reward on each char).

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Reply #1028 on: August 20, 2014, 02:45:43 PM

There is a slot 1 for summoners, drops of manape.

Yeah, I mean more along the lines as we need an alternative to the spear long before we need an alternative to Kraven's and the utility belt. I don't know about other summoners, but at least they have Kraven's. Meanwhile, this will be the 3rd solid option for SG summon spec, and the 3rd item blocked behind a painful grind of another long terminal.

Squirrel Presents will be much more useful now that you can instantly summon all 15 squirrels again with the improved Squirrel Friends.  I just hope they do something with the Hulkbuster graphics, which have been horrible for a couple of patches now.

That is exactly my thoughts with Squirrel Presents, as you won't be without your squirrels for long at all with Squirrel Friends instantly bringing them back. Though, just re-summoning 15 squirrels even without Squirrel Friends won't take long either.

Is this normal? Because this noob has just started playing and it's taken me 6 hours or so just to get to level 18 (with Colossus which I expect is mostly my problem).

First chars are usually the slowest, especially if they are single target like Colossus, who doesn't really shine until later with solid gear. Story mode is slow for leveling, but it is still worth doing once. If you just want to level faster, do Legendary Quests (starting at levle 20), x-defense or holosim (both queued for at the teleport pad on the challenges tab)

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Reply #1029 on: August 20, 2014, 03:38:52 PM

Useful, ta.  awesome, for real

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Reply #1030 on: August 20, 2014, 04:05:48 PM

OMGOMGOMG!  Squirrel Girl!  I don't need any other heroes.
Do you need another way home?

I think she just wants a life beyond Thunderdome.
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Reply #1031 on: August 20, 2014, 04:14:59 PM

OMGOMGOMG!  Squirrel Girl!  I don't need any other heroes.
Do you need another way home?

I think she just wants a life beyond Thunderdome.

You know how sometimes you'll think of the perfect reply to a conversation long after the fact?  awesome, for real

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Reply #1032 on: August 20, 2014, 04:22:12 PM

OMGOMGOMG!  Squirrel Girl!  I don't need any other heroes.
Do you need another way home?

I think she just wants a life beyond Thunderdome.

You know how sometimes you'll think of the perfect reply to a conversation long after the fact?  awesome, for real


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Reply #1033 on: August 20, 2014, 04:31:04 PM

Actually, I take it back.  You made the same reply 2 years ago!  awesome, for real

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Reply #1034 on: August 20, 2014, 04:37:04 PM

If you can solo a cosmic you can solo man-ape, the only truly difficult part is protecting the Dora's, which is difficult because it's completely counter intuitive for the most part.

You can solo it easily if you ignore the Doras, they solo the event just fine if you just go away somewhere else.  Cheesy, but it works.

Yeah they're minor but they add-up, and getting 7 more chars to 25 has taken less time than it took me to get Strange to 60. /shrug.  Each char is taking me an evening or so to hit 25, which is 2.5-3 hours depending on how focused I am. Deciding to run Emma from 25 to 30 last night took me 2.5 hours with boosts.
Is this normal? Because this noob has just started playing and it's taken me 6 hours or so just to get to level 18 (with Colossus which I expect is mostly my problem).

Your first level 60 gets you an account wide 30% exp bonus, second one 20%, third 15% and fourth 10%.  After that each hero gets you 5% more up to 200%, and every level 30 is 1% and 50 3%.  So leveling gets progressively easier as you play.  Colossus is actually pretty good.  Do the story once on your first char, after that you can cherry pick the quests that give important rewards (which can be repeated once per difficulty for more of the same reward on each char).

That 30% boost appears to apply to a lot of things because it has really helped me.  I'm also using xp boosts because why not and it's not too expensive.  The best combo is apparently buy 2x candy bar and 1x drink. The drink is 2h and the bars are 1h. Don't stack bars because it's diminishing returns. 1x for 100% and only a 50%, 30%, 10%, 10% gain for every bar after that. Bad investment ahoy!

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Reply #1035 on: August 20, 2014, 07:55:08 PM

You can also get a lot of boosts for free (in real-money terms) by buying Fortune Cards with the Cube Shards you get from terminals.
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Reply #1036 on: August 20, 2014, 09:24:00 PM

Thanks for all the tips you guys.  I was like Merusk, the going seemed kinda slow and I thought following the story would be the most advantageous for levelling.  I'm doing the Legendary / X-Def route now and it has really sped up.  I'm closing in on 30 with MK so I can make use out of his Ult, which as everyone has mentioned, is apparently face rapey on boss mobs.  I now understand all the terminal levels versus Legendaries and group challenges etc.  Now I need to take some time and figure out WTH I do with crafting.  Also - what's to be gained by "levelling" an NPC merchant?  Just inventory selection?  And what's the difference between cosmic and unique items?  Do uniques level with you, for example?

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Reply #1037 on: August 20, 2014, 09:42:00 PM

Actually, I take it back.  You made the same reply 2 years ago!  awesome, for real

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Reply #1038 on: August 21, 2014, 03:47:05 AM

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Also - what's to be gained by "levelling" an NPC merchant?  Just inventory selection?  And what's the difference between cosmic and unique items?  Do uniques level with you, for example?

The merchants will give you better offers as you move on. Not so important with the "gear merchant," but very important with the crafter and enchanter. The first thing to do is donate stuff to the Crafter to get him/her/it to level 10 so you get the ability to add a "core" into a costume. This lets you mod your costume to give boosts and the bonuses tend to be things you can't get anywhere else. The big ones everyone seems to go for are health on hit, which tops out at 400/hit with a level 60 core and X on medkit which gives you a variety of bonuses when you use a medkit like invulnerability for X seconds or 25% of your entire health in addition to the medkit healing. Leveling the enchanter gives you different and better enchants and runewords which are bonuses to your slot 1-5 equipment and uru forged item.

Uniques fall into two categories. Character specific and generic. They're generally are tuned for a specific build type and have more varied bonuses that cosmics. Generally you're going to go with uniques and generally you're going to go with her specific uniques.

There are some heroes who have poor options in a few slots where the right generic can be a big improvement. For example, the guy who did the standard squirrel girl guide found an insane cosmic that adds six levels squirrel friends, sic em, and squirrel saboteurs -- three of the most important abilities. That's definitely better than any of the uniques, plus SG's slot 1 unique is melee not pet based. Actually slot one is also where you see a lot of generic uniques recommended.

And to throw a ratchet into all of it, there's still RNG and you can get whatever with absolutely terrible rolls or ludicrously great ones.

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Reply #1039 on: August 21, 2014, 06:43:24 AM

Do uniques level with you, for example?

No, but they can be leveled via the crafter NPC. Just leveling them to 30, or 40 only takes credits. Leveling them to 50 or 60 takes credits and a rare drop that can also be purchased with eternity splinters or via the cash shop. Though, don't use splinters for these, not worth it. The cash shop is not too bad depending on your disposable income, though I never bring a unique to 60 since I'll get it again at a later level. I think if I didn't have so many of the all hero (generic) uniques I may have been tempted though, but only for specific ones for specific builds.
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Reply #1040 on: August 21, 2014, 07:33:20 AM

The armor and weapon vendors are very low priority in leveling up, you want to level your crafter and your enchanter.  At crafter level 10 you can start adding cores to your costumes which provide a nice bonus and scale up the level of your costume enchants to the level of the core.

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Reply #1041 on: August 21, 2014, 11:23:40 AM

Apparently the next event will have Team-up as a purchasable item with event currencies, Agent Coulson.
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Reply #1042 on: August 21, 2014, 03:06:26 PM

Yeah, I'm still going for the boxes and hoping for a man-ape spear, sinister cuirass with +int, or one of the three new uniques

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Similar to the Mysterious Crimson Box, this will contain a random unique item that usually drops from a bosses more than other locations. The unique is guaranteed to have a Challenge Bonus.

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Reply #1043 on: August 21, 2014, 03:57:37 PM

I'm using all my armor drives on costume cores since they have 4 stats on top of the 1k defense, even though there is like a 99% chance they will be useless.

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Reply #1044 on: August 21, 2014, 04:10:21 PM

One day I'll have enough drives to get one of those too.  why so serious?


I hope son of Coul won't be too hard to get.

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Reply #1045 on: August 21, 2014, 04:21:00 PM

He cost 2000 currency and the max per event was i believe 800.

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Reply #1046 on: August 21, 2014, 04:35:11 PM

So like 4-6 events for me then probably.  why so serious?

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Reply #1047 on: August 21, 2014, 04:43:44 PM

Well they are "do this task" kinda thing rather than farm for random drops type event like normal.  From what i saw it was fairly simple, 100 each day for logging in, 100 for doing five holosim waves, i think there was another 100 for doing a shared quest.  I might be way off on the event cap actually.

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Reply #1048 on: August 21, 2014, 05:56:53 PM

I managed to get the Legendary from the cosmic stone one, but I ain't doing all that great with this armor drive one. They don't seem to drop nearly as often.

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Reply #1049 on: August 21, 2014, 06:53:46 PM

Whelp, ending the drive event up +360 drives. Not bad considering my hours and mostly doing leveling on chars without bonuses to finds.  (got storm to 26 tonight and surfer +5 to 30)

It's odd, this game gets more fun the more characters I play. Most ARPGs are the opposite, where I burn out after the first or second character.  Knowing the maps seems to help me vs. having randoms I can't learn the layout of.

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