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Reply #910 on: October 29, 2018, 09:31:33 AM

I have a friend that owns one.  She has low standards, though.

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Reply #911 on: October 29, 2018, 04:42:13 PM

You sound like a Honda Fit customer.

(No idea about android auto availability)

This is a good recommendation. I have a couple customers with a newer Fit, and they really like them.

My friends had a fit and at 250k miles got a new fit to replace it. They use it as a mini farm truck/wagon and it holds disturbing amounts of stuff for a vehicle so small. Really nice little cars a lot of usability in them as well and high reliability.
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Reply #912 on: October 29, 2018, 07:35:29 PM

I like my Fit, but I certainly don't LOVE it.  It is reliable, practical, efficient and drivig it is satisfactory but ultimately joyless experience.

It is the precise opposite of owning a vintage British sports car.

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Reply #913 on: October 29, 2018, 08:25:36 PM

I like my Fit, but I certainly don't LOVE it.  It is reliable, practical, efficient and drivig it is satisfactory but ultimately joyless experience.

It is the precise opposite of owning a vintage British sports car.

That... that is pretty damn accurate.

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Reply #914 on: October 30, 2018, 01:42:23 PM

My wife upgraded from her ancient Honda Civic to a Fit last year and loves it. I have to admit that driving it I feel much more like I'm driving a car than her old Civic -- that thing felt like an oversized rollerskate rattling down the highway.

That said, the reason she upgraded was because the old Civic was totaled. And by totaled I mean crushed by an eighteen wheeler that decided that stopping at a red light was optional. She walked away with minor scrapes and a wrenched shoulder. So as far as safety goes, that little rollerskate did well.
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Reply #915 on: October 30, 2018, 03:06:14 PM

I like my Fit, but I certainly don't LOVE it.  It is reliable, practical, efficient and drivig it is satisfactory but ultimately joyless experience.

It is the precise opposite of owning a vintage British sports car.

That... that is pretty damn accurate.

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Reply #916 on: October 30, 2018, 08:15:23 PM

People that like/enjoy driving already know what they want for the most part, or at least have it down to a couple of choices.

The rest of the populace just looks for something with all the sharp edges of car ownership filed off.

The Fit is neat because it is the most practical thing in its segment while also being one of the most entertaining (if you got the stick, anyway).

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Reply #917 on: November 05, 2018, 12:39:41 PM

I like my Fit, but I certainly don't LOVE it.  It is reliable, practical, efficient and drivig it is satisfactory but ultimately joyless experience.

I've been led to understand that this is a Honda trait shared across their portfolio.

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Reply #918 on: November 06, 2018, 02:53:47 PM

Of course it is.  99% of pickup owners own them because they think they are fucking cool.  Why not just say it?  A pickup has to be literally the worst vehicle in which to put either families or groceries.  And minivans have to be better for big people, surely?




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Reply #919 on: November 26, 2018, 12:35:59 AM

And it gets, what, 10 mpg or something ridiculous?  Just so you can go to Redneckcross 9 times a year?  Try not to prove my point next time  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?  Just messing.  I have given up caring what individual humans do or do not do in regards to things like fuel economy.  Governments need to fix this problem by forcing manufacturers, there is no other way.

That out of the way, been a few years since I could be involved in a real car porn discussion.  Now that I am finally off living the single life, I went out and got myself a little Polo GT.  For you non-euros (I don't think you will see them in the US), it is essentially a smaller VW Golf.  It's small, super quick and agile with all kinds of goodness like DSG (with paddle shifters), Adaptive Cruise Control and all the other usual sporty stuff you expect in a GT model.  And it appears to manage about 40 mpg in a standard commute to work, and that number will drop to 30 if I am making it work.  Sweet little car.

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Reply #920 on: November 26, 2018, 09:16:00 AM

And it gets, what, 10 mpg or something ridiculous?  Just so you can go to Redneckcross 9 times a year?  Try not to prove my point next time  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?  Just messing.  I have given up caring what individual humans do or do not do in regards to things like fuel economy.  Governments need to fix this problem by forcing manufacturers, there is no other way.

That out of the way, been a few years since I could be involved in a real car porn discussion.  Now that I am finally off living the single life, I went out and got myself a little Polo GT.  For you non-euros (I don't think you will see them in the US), it is essentially a smaller VW Golf.  It's small, super quick and agile with all kinds of goodness like DSG (with paddle shifters), Adaptive Cruise Control and all the other usual sporty stuff you expect in a GT model.  And it appears to manage about 40 mpg in a standard commute to work, and that number will drop to 30 if I am making it work.  Sweet little car.

And it just had a safety recall to boot!

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Reply #921 on: November 26, 2018, 01:20:41 PM

My car gets 19.5 mpg and I'm fine with that.  A tank lasts about a week.

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Reply #922 on: November 26, 2018, 01:39:09 PM

> I have given up caring what individual humans do or do not do in regards to things like fuel economy.  Governments need to fix this problem by forcing manufacturers, there is no other way.

I think I am averaging 12.5mpg since I bought mine this summer.  I drive it once or twice a week and fill the tank once every 3 weeks.  I wanted a luxuryish people hauler, out to dinner and vacation/roadtrip car, I do occasionally feel bad about the 12mpg but not enough to have made a different decision.  I would rather see the government incentivize work from home jobs as that solves the bigger problem but they need to do more to enforce a better mpg as well. 
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Reply #923 on: November 26, 2018, 04:18:14 PM

They just need to tax gasoline to the point it reflects the enviromental damage it does.  Once they do that it will drive people into smaller cars.
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Reply #924 on: November 26, 2018, 05:52:37 PM

There won't be any cars left by then...

I get around 22-24 in the city for my buick and 33 on the highway. That said, I drive maybe twice a week if that and then trips to the parents and inlaws. I'm lucky enough to live on a bus route that takes both me and the wife to work.

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Reply #925 on: November 27, 2018, 12:13:29 AM

When you pay as much as we do here for gas - not sure how much of it is tax, but probably a lot - then anything less than 30 mpg is painful on the wallet.  Even 30 to 40 has me going "eh, at least my car is fast?".  It is not unusual for the latest generation of small cars to advertise between 60 and 80 mpg, and that is not even a hybrid solution.

But in the US, cars and gas are subjects more sacred thanb guns.  It's hard to see the American consumer willing to give up the cheap gas and the big, heavy and powerful cars.  It's not just about alternative energy, it's about alternative energy that still allows you to have big, heavy and powerful cars.  That are really fucking cheap, I might add.  The government is going to have to force it down your throats, and exactly which politicians are going to make that happen?

And it gets, what, 10 mpg or something ridiculous?  Just so you can go to Redneckcross 9 times a year?  Try not to prove my point next time  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?  Just messing.  I have given up caring what individual humans do or do not do in regards to things like fuel economy.  Governments need to fix this problem by forcing manufacturers, there is no other way.

That out of the way, been a few years since I could be involved in a real car porn discussion.  Now that I am finally off living the single life, I went out and got myself a little Polo GT.  For you non-euros (I don't think you will see them in the US), it is essentially a smaller VW Golf.  It's small, super quick and agile with all kinds of goodness like DSG (with paddle shifters), Adaptive Cruise Control and all the other usual sporty stuff you expect in a GT model.  And it appears to manage about 40 mpg in a standard commute to work, and that number will drop to 30 if I am making it work.  Sweet little car.

And it just had a safety recall to boot!

Talking about the middle seatbelt thing?  No worries, I will just put my least favorite child there.

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Reply #926 on: November 27, 2018, 11:03:09 AM

Stop shitting up the car buying thread with this same old 'nobody needs a truck' 'America needs anti-gas law' fucking bullshit. If I wanted to read opinion as fact and over-simplification of complex issues, I'd visit politics.

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Reply #927 on: November 27, 2018, 12:01:12 PM

I'm going to both agree with Sky and piss him off by further shitting up the thread with personal experiences.

Even here in the deep south I think I see as many compacts and minis driving around as I do trucks, with very little in between (except Priuses -- lots of them around here). Even my family fits this rule -- nice little Fit for scooting around, and my F-150 for hauling. America is a big country. We're not really one monolithic culture, not even regionally.

Now the reasons American car industries don't seem to want to actually relate to consumer demand, as Sky hinted that would be a great topic to get started in Politics.

(Where I would not have to see it.)
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Reply #928 on: November 27, 2018, 02:14:06 PM

I'm like 6 months from paying off the car which will leave about 10 months of warranty left on it. Starting to shop around for a used Porsche, either a Cayman or a 996/7. Won't be for another 2 years, but I'm starting to follow the market on them now. It's utterly fascinating how there are literally cults of owners and subdivisions within those by model.

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Reply #929 on: November 28, 2018, 02:48:52 PM

Tax the shit out of gas, please.  This will keep poor people from driving on the roads, leaving it for big shots like me.

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Reply #930 on: November 29, 2018, 08:57:02 AM

I just bought a 2018 Toyota Camry SE about two months ago. So far I like it a lot. Coming from the loaner BMW at the job to this, I notice certain features I miss having (doors open by getting close to it, push button start, heated seats). However, there's a lot on this car I like that wasn't on my other cars (better HUD, better connection to my smartphone, better USB ports, better cup holder placements, auto-dimming bright headlights).

Also the gas mileage is insane. I'm getting 30 miles per gallon on average. Basically when I'm not traveling out of the city, I'm filling up once every two weeks on regular, so that's maybe $70 a month? The Bimmer was eating up $50 a week.

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Reply #931 on: November 29, 2018, 11:09:35 AM

Speaking of bright headlights, can we reign this shit in? Headlights shouldn't be blindingly bright in full sun at noon. And yet, here we are. I have amazing night vision and the old lady has terrible night vision, we've both remarked on how bad it is, so I don't think it's any particular sensitivity.

Though it does track with the whole American ideal of 'fuck you, all about me'. Blinding oncoming traffic (or even cars in front of you) doesn't seem like a good safety feature.

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Reply #932 on: November 29, 2018, 11:26:10 AM

AFAIK, headlights are regulated by the DOT. So as long as your car is "in spec" it shouldn't be blinding anyone. (Part of the regulation is that Xenon or other bright headlights have an 'auto leveling' featuring to keep it from blinding drivers - which is why you see headlights dip then raise to level position when you turn some cars on).

But I agree, I've noticed this too. I will say though, driving an old car in the pitch black of rural mountains with crappy headlights is really shitty. My newer Yukon has amazing headlights and brights.

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Reply #933 on: November 29, 2018, 11:50:53 AM

Part of the problem with these new headlights is that it seems like they are aimed too high compared to where they used to. Though I think a lot of it is due to how LED lights are point sources and donít diffuse the same way other types of lights do. LED streetlights are mega bright right under the light but as soon as you get out of the focus cone it is pitch black.

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Reply #934 on: November 29, 2018, 11:53:58 AM

Part of the problem with these new headlights is that it seems like they are aimed too high compared to where they used to. Though I think a lot of it is due to how LED lights are point sources and donít diffuse the same way other types of lights do. LED streetlights are mega bright right under the light but as soon as you get out of the focus cone it is pitch black.
Yep, that's my feeling as well.

On some models, the pin spot 'headlight' is aimed fairly well, but the stripe of white LEDs around it is the blinding part. On others, the pin spot will get you.

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Reply #935 on: November 29, 2018, 11:57:43 AM

I have issue with headlight brightness as well. Especially SUV and truck lights as those sit up higher and really fuck you if you are in a car let alone a lower sports car. Angle can only go so far on some of the higher standing vehicles without hampering the visibility of the driver.

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Reply #936 on: November 29, 2018, 12:12:12 PM

I just bought a 2018 Toyota Camry SE about two months ago. So far I like it a lot. Coming from the loaner BMW at the job to this, I notice certain features I miss having (doors open by getting close to it, push button start, heated seats). However, there's a lot on this car I like that wasn't on my other cars (better HUD, better connection to my smartphone, better USB ports, better cup holder placements, auto-dimming bright headlights).

Also the gas mileage is insane. I'm getting 30 miles per gallon on average. Basically when I'm not traveling out of the city, I'm filling up once every two weeks on regular, so that's maybe $70 a month? The Bimmer was eating up $50 a week.

I wonder if that's a package thing, because my 2018 RAV4 has all three of those things, but I bought the Limited package, not an SE one.  I really love just walking up to my car and having it open when I touch the handle.  With the push start, I never have to even take the keys out my purse, ever.  And I have two level heated seats.  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

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Reply #937 on: November 29, 2018, 01:45:31 PM

I have issue with headlight brightness as well. Especially SUV and truck lights as those sit up higher and really fuck you if you are in a car let alone a lower sports car. Angle can only go so far on some of the higher standing vehicles without hampering the visibility of the driver.
Good point, as I sit at a higher angle in the FJ. Not as high as a F250, but much higher than most cars.

And I'm not talking about lights in general, just the very newest lights coming out in the last couple years. Doubtful it's my eyes going, since most cars/trucks/whatever are fine.
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Reply #938 on: November 29, 2018, 02:13:32 PM

Anytime someone modifies the suspension in any way, (Hi, lifted trucks.) the owner and dude who did the work will forget to adjust the headlights appropriately. It's just a given. I will agree with the overall increase in brightness being silly.

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Reply #939 on: November 29, 2018, 02:51:37 PM

I have issue with headlight brightness as well. Especially SUV and truck lights as those sit up higher and really fuck you if you are in a car let alone a lower sports car. Angle can only go so far on some of the higher standing vehicles without hampering the visibility of the driver.
Good point, as I sit at a higher angle in the FJ. Not as high as a F250, but much higher than most cars.

And I'm not talking about lights in general, just the very newest lights coming out in the last couple years. Doubtful it's my eyes going, since most cars/trucks/whatever are fine.

Oh I agree with a change in lumens to current headlights. They are way brighter in the guise of safely for the driver, but it really does have a downside for the OTHER drivers. This was immediately apparent with the new Xenon blue hued lights versus the yellow hue halogens/incandescents. Fucking kids... Get off my lawn!

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Reply #940 on: November 30, 2018, 12:54:58 AM

I agree, but now that I am one of the Xenon/LED owning overlords, everyone else can suck it  awesome, for real  Of course, my car is very small/low, so I am getting as much as I am giving.  The Xenon and LED lights look cool as shit, and I don't know if it is specific to these kind of lights, but the automatic settings are pretty nice.  At first I thought my mind was playing tricks, but they actually brighten up and focus off to the side when I am going around sharp corners and such.

The Adaptive Cruise Control is also quite nice.  I assume this is becoming fairly standard on American cars, but it is pretty unusual over here.

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Reply #941 on: November 30, 2018, 08:31:17 AM

I'm a curmudgeon who dislikes assistive devices on vehicles. I actually like driving my vehicle, and somehow have been perfectly fine with the lights I've always had. And I say this as someone who learned to drive on a 66 Falcon in deer country, where seeing the reflections off the deer eyes is a critical driving skill.

The old lady's Golf has those turning headlamps, my first thought was 'well there's a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.'

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Reply #942 on: November 30, 2018, 03:03:51 PM

The brighter headlamps seem to be due to the insurance industry, considering IIHS has increased their standards for cars to get the top safety rating.

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Reply #943 on: December 01, 2018, 01:12:41 AM

I'm a curmudgeon who dislikes assistive devices on vehicles. I actually like driving my vehicle, and somehow have been perfectly fine with the lights I've always had. And I say this as someone who learned to drive on a 66 Falcon in deer country, where seeing the reflections off the deer eyes is a critical driving skill.

The old lady's Golf has those turning headlamps, my first thought was 'well there's a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.'

I like the cruise control stuff for the boring miles on the freeway, and the adaptive stuff means you barely have to even touch the pedals.  Not exactly self-driving, but it works well for what it is.  I expect what it means for most people is that they can pay attention to their phones instead of their driving  Ohhhhh, I see.

I kinda agree on the turning headlamps, although curbs over here seemed to be designed with extremely sharp edges, so many that's the reason.

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Reply #944 on: December 01, 2018, 07:46:24 AM

I've found cruise control made staying awake on long drives more difficult; being active and engaged in managing my speed keeps me from getting tired.

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