Battlefield 3

[Malakili]

Coming soon!  Star Wars: The Old Republic!  Pre-order now and be able to play a Jedi or Sith on day 1, or else you'll have to wait 2-4 months after release!

 

I thought having to wait to get to the fun part was built into the MMO genre to begin with.

[waffel]

[01101010]

That deserves a place in the funny pics thread.

[tgr]

It's funny because if tetris had been invented today, that's precisely what would've happened.

[Azazel]

My BF3 scale just went from "maybe it won't suck and maybe they won't DRM it the fuck up" to "welp, guess they didn't want my money anyways".

At least certain games companies are making my purchase decisions easier and easier as time goes.

  Mine pretty much went from "Fanboi Fanboi Fanboi Fanboi buy multiple copies on release Fanboi Fanboi Fanboi Fanboi" to " look at it again in 6 months to a year."

Which is a pretty extreme amount of pissed off.

[tgr]

And the worst thing? We're probably going to be in the minority, so this tactic is probably actually paying off.

[Azazel]

I just realised that both of the games that I was super-keen on and actually going to buy on release this year rather than giving 6mo+ to get out of the discount bin have fucked that idea via shop-exclusive DLC.

I wonder if EA will respond to the backlash?

[Xuri]

This has been a long time coming. I would write something here to describe what I feel about where the gaming industry as a whole has been headed for some years now, but words fail me.

[snowwy]

My trust in gaming companies is at an historical low. I'll still throw money after these guys, it's EA, but it's not Activision

[Teleku]

So have we really fallen to the point where EA has better reputation that Activision?

[Malakili]

So have we really fallen to the point where EA has better reputation that Activision?

I think so, but its really a race to the bottom.

I just realised that both of the games that I was super-keen on and actually going to buy on release this year rather than giving 6mo+ to get out of the discount bin have fucked that idea via shop-exclusive DLC.

I wonder if EA will respond to the backlash?

I doubt the vast majority of their audience even registers it as remotely problematic.   Luckily, the minority that does care is extremely loud.

[tgr]

So have we really fallen to the point where EA has better reputation that Activision?

I honestly don't know, they're both (at this point) shit.

I doubt the vast majority of their audience even registers it as remotely problematic.   Luckily, the minority that does care is extremely loud.

I'm not sure the "loud" part is going to be able to overshadow the "minority" and "lawl moneyhats" part.

[Azazel]

I wonder if EA will respond to the backlash?

I doubt the vast majority of their audience even registers it as remotely problematic.   Luckily, the minority that does care is extremely loud.

Well, I was wondering due to their previous attempt to do pretty much the exact same thing apparently resulted in them backing off due to the backlash.

I also remembered the third game I planned to buy on release this year - Saints Row 3 - but it's from THQ who just fucked up my Space Marine purchase, so I'm sure they'll think of something.

In other news, Assassins Creed Brotherhood Da Vinci edition with all the DLC and pre-order bullshit packed in continues to drop in price. Another $10 drop and it'll be time for me to buy it. I only just got a copy of MW2 for PC the other week.

[rk47]

....Well. EA will always be EA. Fuck'em.

[tgr]

Well, I was wondering due to their previous attempt to do pretty much the exact same thing apparently resulted in them backing off due to the backlash.

It's going to take at least 3 years (or more) before they go "maybe that's not such a great idea". I mean, we got Spore with the first online activation, tons of people told EA to go fuck themselves, Ubisot went one step further and required you be online at all times (people bitched even more), and we're now, 3 years later, still seeing tons of games with activation crap in it.

I was going to say they might learn in 3-5 years, but then I realized that there's most likely going to be enough people buying these games on the consoles that they really don't have to go back on what they've done lately, and in fact are probably going to make even more money hand-over-fist as they get to charge full price for the game itself, and then charge €5-15 more for the DLC/pre-purchase "bonuses" (which you of course must get or your mates'll laugh at you for being a cheapskate).

God, I'm getting to be a bitter, bitter old man. Thanks, EA, Ubisoft, Activision. Thanks a lot.

[Vision]

....Well. EA will always be EA. Fuck'em.

[luckton]

Internet wins.  Pre-order content to be unlocked for free sometime after release.

[tgr]

*shrug* No steam, no purchase.

[01101010]

Internet wins.  Pre-order content to be unlocked for free sometime after release.

Like when they want to salvage the sales numbers...so day 2.

[waffel]

Internet wins.  Pre-order content to be unlocked for free sometime after release.

...and the internet loses:

[Azazel]

 

[01101010]

Welcome to the jungle...

[Kail]

Welcome to the jungle...

We've got fun and games and are throwing in "fun" as a preorder bonus.

[Hawkbit]

This is a really shitty trend. 

I like that Rockstar acknowledged that fact and started putting their pre-order bonuses as DLC after the launch of the game.  I'm okay with that.  But don't hold back content from your players, especially stuff that has the potential to be an advantage. 

I know with RDR it took them awhile to get the pre-order stuff up on PSN, but with LANoire it was up almost immediately after launch.  I'm also entirely okay with the Fallout series DLC, very modular and one doesn't necessarily need the DLC, only to have a little extra fun. 

[Ingmar]

El oh el:

www.modernwarfare3.com

[Trippy]

That looks like a domain name squatter that's doing that and not EA but it's still pretty funny.

[Ingmar]

Yeah, maybe a tactic to get Activision to pay up more for the name.

[LK]

I may have to get Battlefield 3 after that multiplayer trailer. Seemed to resonant with me a bit more than *anything* Call of Duty.

[jakonovski]

I watched some gameplay trailers and the whole thing seems retarded. There's no tension to anything that happens on screen, it's just more formulaic military manshooterisms. Sure it looks pretty, but 15 years ago I could for example play Harpoon and watch completely immersed, missile by missile, as an attack goes to shit and the use of nuclear weapons gets greenlighted. How exactly is another shooting gallery "game" going to impress me compared to that?

Fuck you modern military games, I hate you.

[Malakili]

I watched some gameplay trailers and the whole thing seems retarded. There's no tension to anything that happens on screen, it's just more formulaic military manshooterisms. Sure it looks pretty, but 15 years ago I could for example play Harpoon and watch completely immersed, missile by missile, as an attack goes to shit and the use of nuclear weapons gets greenlighted. How exactly is another shooting gallery "game" going to impress me compared to that?

Fuck you modern military games, I hate you.

Normally BF3 would look like a good enough shooter for me, but especially given the fact that we FINALLY have some decent non-military shooters in the pipeline (Tribes coming within a similar timeframe), BF3 is looking less and less like a buy to me.

[Azazel]

The thing about BF is that until BC 1 and 2 there never was a SP campaign, all you could do solo was shoot bots. So for me the selling point is, as ever, the MP. If the SP manages to be fun and/or entertaining, then so much the better.

Unlike CoD or MoH who came the opposite way. CoD used to have interesting and lengthy SP campaigns which have now become Bruckheimer-Bay wannabes, and moving towards being closer to the length of one of those films.

[Trippy]

You mean Spielberg wannabes. The first mission in Medal of Honor: Allied Assault, made by many of the people that would eventually form Infinity Ward, was a recreation of the beach landing scene in Saving Private Ryan in video game form. It wasn't a ripoff though since Spielberg is credited as the game's creator.

[Azazel]

Nope, I don't. You misunderstand what I was saying.

I'm not talking about the old MoH stuff (and I know who IW came from - 2015) when I talk about Bruckheimer-Bay productions, I'm talking about the most recent set of CoD games where the SP have become short-duration explosion-fest "summer movie" games, compared to the longer, more grounded and way less OTT campaigns that the series originated from (which includes the early MoH). MP has also become much more the focus, along with the short "summer movie" SP campaigns.

The contrast being that BF has gone from basically no SP campaign at all, to making it much more relevant to the package, but still being that at it's core, BF is (still hopefully) an online MP game. (and so I don't mind it's SP campaign being a bit formulaic manshooteristic.)

[rk47]

AIR PORT SCENE SHOOT OUT.

THIS CONTENT MIGHT BE OFFENSIVE.

WOULD U LIKE TO SKIP?

HERE WE GO COLUMBIA, SHOOT COLUMBIANS

OH NOES AMERIKKA NUKED RUSSIANS BAD OR ARE THEY?

FIGHT, MUSTACHED BRITISH PERSON, FIGHT ON!

WHO DROPPED THE SOAP?

It was fun for the first run, afterwards.. OK. That's $60? Fuck, I finished that over an afternoon stayover at my neighbor's place....No, thanks.

[tgr]

The hilarious bit was how the airport scene was literally all that was eluded to in their awfully obscure videos, and it was the most boring part of the game. I was just rolling my eyes at how ridiculously overhyped that bit of the game was, and how ridiculously over-reactive people were to it as well.